Trade for Khalil Mack
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Another tweet from Ian Rapoport. . .
Sources: The #Bears are giving 2 first-round picks to the #Raiders for star Khalil Mack. That may not be it, but that is the crux of the deal. A huge, huge deal.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Bittersweet! I had lofty visions OF Mack and Garrett, but oh well! Play ball indeed. (please stay healthy Garrett).
We saw Garrett play a healthy half and absolutely destroy the Super Bowl Champs in a meaningless preseason game against a solid backup LT. When asked about the game, Garrett made an interesting point, and he said playing one half is fun, but playing the SECOND half is really where it starts to get good because you can execute the moves you've been setting up and the lineman begins to tire. Garrett's conditioning is second to none in the DE world. He stays healthy and he's going to have some games where he puts up scary numbers. That being said, even having one dominant DE isn't enough. Teams can try to plan against him. We won't be a stellar defense unless Ogbah and Avery can take advantage of the massive attention on Garrett.
Keep an eye on Genard Avery this year, especially on obvious passing downs. Gregg likes to kick Ogbah inside, and Avery will basically be a standing defensive end opposite Garrett. Ogunjobi would likely be the other DT, and he's excellent at penetration. Guys, that's a legit arsenal.
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Bittersweet! I had lofty visions OF Mack and Garrett, but oh well! Play ball indeed. (please stay healthy Garrett).
We saw Garrett play a healthy half and absolutely destroy the Super Bowl Champs in a meaningless preseason game against a solid backup LT. When asked about the game, Garrett made an interesting point, and he said playing one half is fun, but playing the SECOND half is really where it starts to get good because you can execute the moves you've been setting up and the lineman begins to tire. Garrett's conditioning is second to none in the DE world. He stays healthy and he's going to have some games where he puts up scary numbers. That being said, even having one dominant DE isn't enough. Teams can try to plan against him. We won't be a stellar defense unless Ogbah and Avery can take advantage of the massive attention on Garrett.
Keep an eye on Genard Avery this year, especially on obvious passing downs. Gregg likes to kick Ogbah inside, and Avery will basically be a standing defensive end opposite Garrett. Ogunjobi would likely be the other DT, and he's excellent at penetration. Guys, that's a legit arsenal.
Bittersweet! I had lofty visions OF Mack and Garrett, but oh well! Play ball indeed. (please stay healthy Garrett).
We saw Garrett play a healthy half and absolutely destroy the Super Bowl Champs in a meaningless preseason game against a solid backup LT. When asked about the game, Garrett made an interesting point, and he said playing one half is fun, but playing the SECOND half is really where it starts to get good because you can execute the moves you've been setting up and the lineman begins to tire. Garrett's conditioning is second to none in the DE world. He stays healthy and he's going to have some games where he puts up scary numbers. That being said, even having one dominant DE isn't enough. Teams can try to plan against him. We won't be a stellar defense unless Ogbah and Avery can take advantage of the massive attention on Garrett.
Keep an eye on Genard Avery this year, especially on obvious passing downs. Gregg likes to kick Ogbah inside, and Avery will basically be a standing defensive end opposite Garrett. Ogunjobi would likely be the other DT, and he's excellent at penetration. Guys, that's a legit arsenal.
Ya, Williams is high on Avery. I'm not one to get excited about 5th round picks ... But don't you feel that Avery in the 5th round was exactly what they wanted form Mingo at #7 overall many years ago. Could be a huge steal for John Dorsey who will never buy a drink in Cleveland again if we go 8-8 this year.
Zombo
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Another tweet from Ian Rapoport. . .
Sources: The #Bears are giving 2 first-round picks to the #Raiders for star Khalil Mack. That may not be it, but that is the crux of the deal. A huge, huge deal.
Another tweet from Ian Rapoport. . .
Sources: The #Bears are giving 2 first-round picks to the #Raiders for star Khalil Mack. That may not be it, but that is the crux of the deal. A huge, huge deal.
MKC is reporting deal is done..Mack "might be" a Bear EDIT--Rapaport says 2 1st round picks +++plus++,deal seems done lacking details.We weren't the only team to get out bid +++plus bears new dollars..Jets finished 2nd in the running for Mack
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Our offer was outgunned that the last minute.
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so the browns were legit contenders? what was our offer? two first rounders is excessive and thst might not be all the bears give them? yeah im glad. We still need to find a LDE that cant be blocked by the zach ertz's of the nfl....
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so the browns were legit contenders? what was our offer? two first rounders is excessive and thst might not be all the bears give them? yeah im glad. We still need to find a LDE that cant be blocked by the zach ertz's of the nfl....
so the browns were legit contenders? what was our offer? two first rounders is excessive and thst might not be all the bears give them? yeah im glad. We still need to find a LDE that cant be blocked by the zach ertz's of the nfl....
I will be very surprised if the Browns aren't drafting in the top 10 this upcoming draft, and that draft has a ridiculous amount of DLine prospects.
Hell, the entire Clemson DLine could be drafted in the first two rounds.
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Great trade for da Raiders... those 1's are going to be high ones.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Yeah let's loose 14 games this year to get bosa. Makes sense
You weren't paying attention. I said trade up for Bosa. I don't expect the Browns to be drafting high enough to get Nick. FWIW, I got a rare freebie to head to Columbus to see Nick & the Buckeyes in person today. Bosa is as advertised, a one man wrecking crew. The hype he might be better than his brother is totally believable. For sure a top 3 pick.
MKC is reporting deal is done..Mack "might be" a Bear EDIT--Rapaport says 2 1st round picks +++plus++,deal seems done lacking details.We weren't the only team to get out bid +++plus bears new dollars..Jets finished 2nd in the running for Mack
The Bears GM Ryan Pace must have been high to give up that much for Mack- and then give him a cap busting deal on top of it. Anyone want to bet Kahlil won't make the Chicago a playoff team this year?
Great trade for da Raiders... those 1's are going to be high ones.
Highway robbery Tour. You and me both know- with the bar set this high, assuming Myles plays to DPOY stature, what's his # going to be to keep him around in a couple years? $150 million?
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Yeah let's loose 14 games this year to get bosa. Makes sense
Lose, LOSE not loose. Loose vs. Lose. Shundalyn Allen. Words. Lose is a verb that means “to fail to win, to misplace, or to free oneself from something or someone.” Loose is an adjective that means “not tight.”
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Lose, LOSE not loose. Loose vs. Lose. Shundalyn Allen. Words. Lose is a verb that means “to fail to win, to misplace, or to free oneself from something or someone.” Loose is an adjective that means “not tight.”
I almost never play the grammar card DieHard. But Mike was one of the Mack at any cost guys.... Something I was adamantly against...
I agree with Chuckie... from NFL.com
"Gruden downplayed the importance of Mack the entire offseason, at one point noting Oakland's D was poor with the pass rusher last season. Gruden's logic, whether you agree with it or not, is that the Raiders can take the savings from trading Mack to add multiple players down the road.
Trading a player of Mack's capability does not make Oakland better today. With a 10-year, $100 million contract, Gruden, however, is playing the long game. Adding two first-round picks and avoiding salary-cap hell could set the Raiders on solid foundation years ahead. The theory only works if Oakland hits on those draft picks and signs good players. We know Mack is a great player. Draft picks and cap space can be fool's gold."
Don't we know about accumulating draft picks and using them on busts...
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Lose, LOSE not loose. Loose vs. Lose. Shundalyn Allen. Words. Lose is a verb that means “to fail to win, to misplace, or to free oneself from something or someone.” Loose is an adjective that means “not tight.”
Loser is someone who nitpicks over someone else's grammar.
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Lose is a verb that means “to fail to win, to misplace, or to free oneself from something or someone.” Loose is an adjective that means “not tight.”
10 minutes in the Penalty Box for speaking prober internet..Now get in the box..?
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Our offer was outgunned that the last minute.
BULLSHIDT I told you earlier in this thread, the Fahking Browns were never in the hunt. They never will acquire top free agents nor will they draft top playmakers.
This is a schidt team and a schidt Franchise.
I am wearing a Leveon Bell shirt to the Browns Backers opening day game. THe Browns blow.
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Our offer was outgunned that the last minute.
BULLSHIDT I told you earlier in this thread, the Fahking Browns were never in the hunt. They never will acquire top free agents nor will they draft top playmakers.
This is a schidt team and a schidt Franchise.
I am wearing a Leveon Bell shirt to the Browns Backers opening day game. THe Browns blow.
BULLSHIDT I told you earlier in this thread, the Fahking Browns were never in the hunt. They never will acquire top free agents nor will they draft top playmakers.
This is a schidt team and a schidt Franchise.
I am wearing a Leveon Bell shirt to the Browns Backers opening day game. THe Browns blow.
You are simply wrong. They had a multiple pick / player offer being negotiated for days last week. There was another circumstance last week that likely reduced some of our flexibilty on the package. Ultimately it ended up boiling down to someone offering two first rounders AND being outside the AFC. As far as what you “ told us earlier”, you throw a LOT of sh!t at the wall. Some of it’s bound to stick. What sticks is all you seem to remember which is why I somewhat fondly nicknamed you Nostradumbass last year LOL. Relative to your attire for the game I seriously think you should consider meds to smooth out your rollercoaster. Not sure if that’s antidepressants , estrogen or both.
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Yeah let's loose 14 games this year to get bosa. Makes sense
You weren't paying attention. I said trade up for Bosa. I don't expect the Browns to be drafting high enough to get Nick. FWIW, I got a rare freebie to head to Columbus to see Nick & the Buckeyes in person today. Bosa is as advertised, a one man wrecking crew. The hype he might be better than his brother is totally believable. For sure a top 3 pick.
MKC is reporting deal is done..Mack "might be" a Bear EDIT--Rapaport says 2 1st round picks +++plus++,deal seems done lacking details.We weren't the only team to get out bid +++plus bears new dollars..Jets finished 2nd in the running for Mack
The Bears GM Ryan Pace must have been high to give up that much for Mack- and then give him a cap busting deal on top of it. Anyone want to bet Kahlil won't make the Chicago a playoff team this year?
Great trade for da Raiders... those 1's are going to be high ones.
Highway robbery Tour. You and me both know- with the bar set this high, assuming Myles plays to DPOY stature, what's his # going to be to keep him around in a couple years? $150 million?
Highway robbery Tour. You and me both know- with the bar set this high, assuming Myles plays to DPOY stature, what's his # going to be to keep him around in a couple years? $150 million?
Still TBD, h... but not for at least 3 more years... 4, if we go to the 5th year option without extending onto his rookie deal.
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Our offer was outgunned that the last minute.
BULLSHIDT I told you earlier in this thread, the Fahking Browns were never in the hunt. They never will acquire top free agents nor will they draft top playmakers.
This is a schidt team and a schidt Franchise.
I am wearing a Leveon Bell shirt to the Browns Backers opening day game. THe Browns blow.
BULLSHIDT I told you earlier in this thread, the Fahking Browns were never in the hunt. They never will acquire top free agents nor will they draft top playmakers.
This is a schidt team and a schidt Franchise.
I am wearing a Leveon Bell shirt to the Browns Backers opening day game. THe Browns blow.
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