*GAMEDAY THREADS* Eagles & Lions
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Big IF, but IF they are able to trade for Mack, our pass rush would rival Denver's.
Agreed. However, the Browns trading for big names is not exactly high probability.
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Big IF, but IF they are able to trade for Mack, our pass rush would rival Denver's.
Agreed. However, the Browns trading for big names is not exactly high probability.
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Agree about the 2's. We wanted to increase our depth talent and we've done that to some degree.
The penalties are crazy, especially on punt/kick returns. I saw us literally push people in the back directly in front of the refs. Really guys? How many times last year did we see flags on returns? 75% of the time? Maybe that's exaggerating, but it seemed like it.
Cajuste did ok, although I admit to not watching him specifically. Besides that one drop, did he make mistakes? And that drop wasn't the easiest play. The defender made an excellent play getting the ball out. Does Cajuste need to snatch that ball and bring it in quickly? Of course. But it wasn't like he just channeled his inner Quincy Morgan and clanged it.
I like Dayes, always have. I especially like his acceleration and speed. He hit the hole and just FLEW on the touchdown run. Very impressive. Hilliard does the most with his opportunities, and he's got some wiggle.
I've always heard Robeck had an arm, and even the coaches were on film speaking highly of the kid. It was obvious Robeck's timing was a bit off, but once he settled in he made some big time throws. I loved seeing that TD throw! It was a special moment for him, and you could tell how happy everyone was for him and the receiver. Robeck to practice squad?
Orchard is toast, but only from our team. That incredible play may not have been enough to make OUR team, but Orchard will catch on somewhere else. I know it. He's been around the QB so much, he'll make the plays eventually.
Cajuste did ok, although I admit to not watching him specifically. Besides that one drop, did he make mistakes? And that drop wasn't the easiest play. The defender made an excellent play getting the ball out. Does Cajuste need to snatch that ball and bring it in quickly? Of course. But it wasn't like he just channeled his inner Quincy Morgan and clanged it.
Orchard is toast, but only from our team. That incredible play may not have been enough to make OUR team, but Orchard will catch on somewhere else. I know it. He's been around the QB so much, he'll make the plays eventually.
Besides the bad drop he had issues blocking their 3rd-stringers. Fells lessons did not make it onto the field.
the Browns are going to have one hell of a tough time, with losing guys off their practice squad now.
Goes with jiggins' thought on Orchard... we're cutting/stashing... even trading... more talented players now than we have in some time.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
well, Tiam, all that should be gleaned from your nonsense criteria of "better" is your fave is the second year player, with a 2.6 career average per carry, only a third down back with a lack of strength to break a tackle...
got that, Tiamsies? analyze that, bigshot. They are different players - Chubb is a powerful three down back, while Dayes is a third down back that lacks strength.
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different types of players, Tiam. Your little Tiam critique is crapola
*watches game vs lions*
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Cajuste did ok, although I admit to not watching him specifically. Besides that one drop, did he make mistakes? And that drop wasn't the easiest play. The defender made an excellent play getting the ball out. Does Cajuste need to snatch that ball and bring it in quickly? Of course. But it wasn't like he just channeled his inner Quincy Morgan and clanged it.
Orchard is toast, but only from our team. That incredible play may not have been enough to make OUR team, but Orchard will catch on somewhere else. I know it. He's been around the QB so much, he'll make the plays eventually.
Besides the bad drop he had issues blocking their 3rd-stringers. Fells lessons did not make it onto the field.
the Browns are going to have one hell of a tough time, with losing guys off their practice squad now.
Goes with jiggins' thought on Orchard... we're cutting/stashing... even trading... more talented players now than we have in some time.
Besides the bad drop he had issues blocking their 3rd-stringers. Fells lessons did not make it onto the field.
Goes with jiggins' thought on Orchard... we're cutting/stashing... even trading... more talented players now than we have in some time.
I would've agreed with you until our latest cuts and signings. We let Meder and Nassib go for two defensive bozos I've never heard of. One was a 2017 7th rounder from the Vikings. Uhhhhh. Why? These are the type of moves that make basically no sense. It's GM's trying to show how smart they are and I HATE THAT. The team loved Meder and Nassib. They were productive (especially Meder) and I don't see the benefit of cutting them for experimental players that won't be on a roster next season. Nassib and Meder will be immediately picked up and probably play significant time this season. Whereas the nobodies WE got instead will probably do nothing. Maybe I'm wrong, but right now it's looking super dumb.
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Besides the bad drop he had issues blocking their 3rd-stringers. Fells lessons did not make it onto the field.
Goes with jiggins' thought on Orchard... we're cutting/stashing... even trading... more talented players now than we have in some time.
I would've agreed with you until our latest cuts and signings. We let Meder and Nassib go for two defensive bozos I've never heard of. One was a 2017 7th rounder from the Vikings. Uhhhhh. Why? These are the type of moves that make basically no sense. It's GM's trying to show how smart they are and I HATE THAT. The team loved Meder and Nassib. They were productive (especially Meder) and I don't see the benefit of cutting them for experimental players that won't be on a roster next season. Nassib and Meder will be immediately picked up and probably play significant time this season. Whereas the nobodies WE got instead will probably do nothing. Maybe I'm wrong, but right now it's looking super dumb.
I would've agreed with you until our latest cuts and signings. We let Meder and Nassib go for two defensive bozos I've never heard of. One was a 2017 7th rounder from the Vikings. Uhhhhh. Why? These are the type of moves that make basically no sense. It's GM's trying to show how smart they are and I HATE THAT. The team loved Meder and Nassib. They were productive (especially Meder) and I don't see the benefit of cutting them for experimental players that won't be on a roster next season. Nassib and Meder will be immediately picked up and probably play significant time this season. Whereas the nobodies WE got instead will probably do nothing. Maybe I'm wrong, but right now it's looking super dumb.
TBD for sure...
I trust that Dorsey thinks he's improving the team with these moves and with the DL moves I think he has in some aspects, e.g., Odenigbo is a better pass rusher than Nassib. But in total? TBD.
And Meder wasn't all that... nice player to be sure, but Davis is very stout against the run.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I would've agreed with you until our latest cuts and signings. We let Meder and Nassib go for two defensive bozos I've never heard of. One was a 2017 7th rounder from the Vikings. Uhhhhh. Why? These are the type of moves that make basically no sense. It's GM's trying to show how smart they are and I HATE THAT. The team loved Meder and Nassib. They were productive (especially Meder) and I don't see the benefit of cutting them for experimental players that won't be on a roster next season. Nassib and Meder will be immediately picked up and probably play significant time this season. Whereas the nobodies WE got instead will probably do nothing. Maybe I'm wrong, but right now it's looking super dumb.
TBD for sure...
I trust that Dorsey thinks he's improving the team with these moves and with the DL moves I think he has in some aspects, e.g., Odenigbo is a better pass rusher than Nassib. But in total? TBD.
And Meder wasn't all that... nice player to be sure, but Davis is very stout against the run.
TBD for sure...
I trust that Dorsey thinks he's improving the team with these moves and with the DL moves I think he has in some aspects, e.g., Odenigbo is a better pass rusher than Nassib. But in total? TBD.
And Meder wasn't all that... nice player to be sure, but Davis is very stout against the run.
And I get that, but is Davis better than Meder, especially considering Meder has been in our system and would have nothing to learn? There has to be a learning curve, even for DL, right? Obviously Dorsey knows more than I do, but sometimes I feel like GMs just make moves to make moves. And isn't there a teamwork element here? Meder and Nassib were said to be well liked and and genuinely appeared to be part of the "family", ya know? The difference in talent seems so marginal to me, and bringing in new people to supplant two mainstays just seems odd. But...as you said....to be determined.
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I would've agreed with you until our latest cuts and signings. We let Meder and Nassib go for two defensive bozos I've never heard of. One was a 2017 7th rounder from the Vikings. Uhhhhh. Why? These are the type of moves that make basically no sense. It's GM's trying to show how smart they are and I HATE THAT. The team loved Meder and Nassib. They were productive (especially Meder) and I don't see the benefit of cutting them for experimental players that won't be on a roster next season. Nassib and Meder will be immediately picked up and probably play significant time this season. Whereas the nobodies WE got instead will probably do nothing. Maybe I'm wrong, but right now it's looking super dumb.
TBD for sure...
I trust that Dorsey thinks he's improving the team with these moves and with the DL moves I think he has in some aspects, e.g., Odenigbo is a better pass rusher than Nassib. But in total? TBD.
And Meder wasn't all that... nice player to be sure, but Davis is very stout against the run.
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TBD for sure...
I trust that Dorsey thinks he's improving the team with these moves and with the DL moves I think he has in some aspects, e.g., Odenigbo is a better pass rusher than Nassib. But in total? TBD.
And Meder wasn't all that... nice player to be sure, but Davis is very stout against the run.
And I get that, but is Davis better than Meder, especially considering Meder has been in our system and would have nothing to learn? There has to be a learning curve, even for DL, right? Obviously Dorsey knows more than I do, but sometimes I feel like GMs just make moves to make moves. And isn't there a teamwork element here? Meder and Nassib were said to be well liked and and genuinely appeared to be part of the "family", ya know? The difference in talent seems so marginal to me, and bringing in new people to supplant two mainstays just seems odd. But...as you said....to be determined.
And I get that, but is Davis better than Meder, especially considering Meder has been in our system and would have nothing to learn? There has to be a learning curve, even for DL, right? Obviously Dorsey knows more than I do, but sometimes I feel like GMs just make moves to make moves. And isn't there a teamwork element here? Meder and Nassib were said to be well liked and and genuinely appeared to be part of the "family", ya know? The difference in talent seems so marginal to me, and bringing in new people to supplant two mainstays just seems odd. But...as you said....to be determined.
I get where you’re coming from. My main issue with going into this season was that half the team would be new to each other and the learning curve to develop chemistry and all that. Add in to that the “1-2-3 family!” rah rah bullshìt in camp and trying to create this atmosphere where everybody has everybody else’s back, and then within a day axing a family member for the prospect of greener pastures.
I guess if the talent difference is that significant l get it, as long as the majority of the rest of the “family” sees it and believes it. But if not all it does is make some guys wonder if they’re next and whether the elder members of the family truly believe in them.
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TBD for sure...
I trust that Dorsey thinks he's improving the team with these moves and with the DL moves I think he has in some aspects, e.g., Odenigbo is a better pass rusher than Nassib. But in total? TBD.
And Meder wasn't all that... nice player to be sure, but Davis is very stout against the run.
And I get that, but is Davis better than Meder, especially considering Meder has been in our system and would have nothing to learn? There has to be a learning curve, even for DL, right? Obviously Dorsey knows more than I do, but sometimes I feel like GMs just make moves to make moves. And isn't there a teamwork element here? Meder and Nassib were said to be well liked and and genuinely appeared to be part of the "family", ya know? The difference in talent seems so marginal to me, and bringing in new people to supplant two mainstays just seems odd. But...as you said....to be determined.
And I get that, but is Davis better than Meder, especially considering Meder has been in our system and would have nothing to learn? There has to be a learning curve, even for DL, right? Obviously Dorsey knows more than I do, but sometimes I feel like GMs just make moves to make moves. And isn't there a teamwork element here? Meder and Nassib were said to be well liked and and genuinely appeared to be part of the "family", ya know? The difference in talent seems so marginal to me, and bringing in new people to supplant two mainstays just seems odd. But...as you said....to be determined.
Well Nassib did give questionable investment advice... so there's that. But seriously... even after HK... I don't have the sense that either was close to being the heartbeat of the team... no where near like Landry and Baker and Kirk...
As for a DT learning curve... not all that steep for 1st and 2nd down run-gap D as I recall.
How dare you sir...
Very easily...
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