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  • I only watched second half, but I'm excited about this defense: we have playmakers and everybody contributes. I'm glad about seeing Peppers get more involved (except that fair catch).

    Offense is in the process but I wouldn't say there's a surprise on that. I think that the rain didn't do us any favor and we had some bad drops. Let's hope that after trying to reinvent the wheel during the preseason the Oline starts to gel and both the run and pass play benefit from that. We have playmakers and I think it only can get better from this spot.

    @nero said:

    I only watched second half, but I'm excited about this defense: we have playmakers and everybody contributes. I'm glad about seeing Peppers get more involved (except that fair catch).

    Offense is in the process but I wouldn't say there's a surprise on that. I think that the rain didn't do us any favor and we had some bad drops. Let's hope that after trying to reinvent the wheel during the preseason the Oline starts to gel and both the run and pass play benefit for that. We have playmakers and I think it only can get better from this spot.

    Sanity is not allowed after a tie.?

  • @nickers said:

    All today proved to Me is Hue is still clueless.. And Tuh'rod is not Starter material.. He has 0 drive on his passes... He's a career backup at best.. We better up the ante on getting Baker ready .. Because Tuh'rod certainly is not the answer at QB.. He flat out stunk.

    Did you see how Ben played? The weather was horrendous. I'm not sure I'd lay any of that game on tyrod just like I'm not laying it on ben. It was a sh*t show of a game.

    @vagitron said:

    Did you see how Ben played? The weather was horrendous. I'm not sure I'd lay any of that game on tyrod just like I'm not laying it on ben. It was a sh*t show of a game.

    I wasn't talking to you , Homo... At least Ben has drive on his passes and gave your team a chance to win.. Which no one , Won today... Tuh'rod is just gawd awful.. He couldnt even read the coverages today and he was late on a lot of his throws...

  • @vagitron said:

    Did you see how Ben played? The weather was horrendous. I'm not sure I'd lay any of that game on tyrod just like I'm not laying it on ben. It was a sh*t show of a game.

    I wasn't talking to you , Homo... At least Ben has drive on his passes and gave your team a chance to win.. Which no one , Won today... Tuh'rod is just gawd awful.. He couldnt even read the coverages today and he was late on a lot of his throws...

    @nickers said:

    I wasn't talking to you , Homo... At least Ben has drive on his passes and gave your team a chance to win.. Which no one , Won today... Tuh'rod is just gawd awful.. He couldnt even read the coverages today and he was late on a lot of his throws...

    Lol, I thought we were past the name calling?

  • @vagitron said:

    Did you see how Ben played? The weather was horrendous. I'm not sure I'd lay any of that game on tyrod just like I'm not laying it on ben. It was a sh*t show of a game.

    I wasn't talking to you , Homo... At least Ben has drive on his passes and gave your team a chance to win.. Which no one , Won today... Tuh'rod is just gawd awful.. He couldnt even read the coverages today and he was late on a lot of his throws...

    @nickers said:

     Tuh'rod is just gawd awful.. He couldnt even read the coverages today and he was late on a lot of his throws...

    Unfortunately I was thinking during most of the game that the rookie Baker could have read the defenses far better than TT was doing. It showed in preseason. But that said I don't want him out there until this team can decently pass block, which they can't.

  • @nickers said:

    I wasn't talking to you , Homo... At least Ben has drive on his passes and gave your team a chance to win.. Which no one , Won today... Tuh'rod is just gawd awful.. He couldnt even read the coverages today and he was late on a lot of his throws...

    Lol, I thought we were past the name calling?

    @vagitron said:

    Lol, I thought we were past the name calling?

    Would you rather I put Sapien , Sapien behind that?... I'll agree.. Both teams played like hell today..

  • The offense needs lots of work, especially the line blocking it has got to be better. And the run defense wasn't very good especially in the 3rd Q. It did get better in Q4 and OT. Might need to bring Meder back.

  • Upon further reflection...

    • This was a lucky tie. Boswell makes that 40-yarder 85% of the time.
    • One of the oldest football cliches held true today. Namely that early in the season Defenses are way ahead of Offenses. This used to be heard mostly in the preseason, and sometimes still is, but today under the current CBA it's truer of the first games of the regular season than it ever has been. As I said in The Tavern it's why BB considers the Pats' first two games to be mere extensions of the preseason.

    So take heart fellow BrownsBoarders. Our O will improve week to week. Just don't expect our D to continue to grab turnovers like they were Pez as the season rolls on.as opponents O's will improve as well.

    Except BUF's of course... they are majorly eff'd up. 😉

  • All today proved to Me is Hue is still clueless.. And Tuh'rod is not Starter material.. He has 0 drive on his passes... He's a career backup at best.. We better up the ante on getting Baker ready .. Because Tuh'rod certainly is not the answer at QB.. He flat out stunk.

    @nickers said:

    All today proved to Me is Hue is still clueless.. And Tuh'rod is not Starter material.. He has 0 drive on his passes... He's a career backup at best.. We better up the ante on getting Baker ready .. Because Tuh'rod certainly is not the answer at QB.. He flat out stunk.

    Seriously!!!  As fast as the Steeler's D was getting to him.  I can promise you that Baker would've been under much more pressure and I guarantee more turnovers.  Let him sit back and learn.  I tried telling you guys this last season with Kizer.  Sure Kizer is not as good as Baker or Tyrod, but you can't throw him into the fire just like that (Hue's fault).  Back to Tyrod, his game will get better with time.  Baker will not see the field this season.  That's a promise.  

  • Upon further reflection...

    • This was a lucky tie. Boswell makes that 40-yarder 85% of the time.
    • One of the oldest football cliches held true today. Namely that early in the season Defenses are way ahead of Offenses. This used to be heard mostly in the preseason, and sometimes still is, but today under the current CBA it's truer of the first games of the regular season than it ever has been. As I said in The Tavern it's why BB considers the Pats' first two games to be mere extensions of the preseason.

    So take heart fellow BrownsBoarders. Our O will improve week to week. Just don't expect our D to continue to grab turnovers like they were Pez as the season rolls on.as opponents O's will improve as well.

    Except BUF's of course... they are majorly eff'd up. 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Upon further reflection...

    • This was a lucky tie. Boswell makes that 40-yarder 85% of the time.
    • One of the oldest football cliches held true today. Namely that early in the season Defenses are way ahead of Offenses. This used to be heard mostly in the preseason, and sometimes still is, but today under the current CBA it's truer of the first games of the regular season than it ever has been. As I said in The Tavern it's why BB considers the Pats' first two games to be mere extensions of the preseason.

    So take heart fellow BrownsBoarders. Our O will improve week to week. Just don't expect our D to continue to grab turnovers like they were Pez as the season rolls on.as opponents O's will improve as well.

    Except BUF's of course... they are majorly eff'd up. 😉

    The Bills are the new Browns. Total tank job they are doing. 

  • @vagitron said:

    Did you see how Ben played? The weather was horrendous. I'm not sure I'd lay any of that game on tyrod just like I'm not laying it on ben. It was a sh*t show of a game.

    I wasn't talking to you , Homo... At least Ben has drive on his passes and gave your team a chance to win.. Which no one , Won today... Tuh'rod is just gawd awful.. He couldnt even read the coverages today and he was late on a lot of his throws...

    @nickers said:

    I wasn't talking to you , Homo... At least Ben has drive on his passes and gave your team a chance to win.. Which no one , Won today... Tuh'rod is just gawd awful.. He couldnt even read the coverages today and he was late on a lot of his throws...

    Ben had far more time to throw the football that Tyrod, you can't even begin to argue that point.  Tyrod's decision making skill had to be fast.  In the 2nd half, he did some good things, like getting us into FG range.  But the weather just didn't permit either FG kicker to make the attempt.  Under different circumstances, you could argue that the Steeler's would've won the game.  But you could also argue that our D could have played better.  Let's put this game behind us and move on to the Saints. 

  • @nickers said:

    All today proved to Me is Hue is still clueless.. And Tuh'rod is not Starter material.. He has 0 drive on his passes... He's a career backup at best.. We better up the ante on getting Baker ready .. Because Tuh'rod certainly is not the answer at QB.. He flat out stunk.

    Seriously!!!  As fast as the Steeler's D was getting to him.  I can promise you that Baker would've been under much more pressure and I guarantee more turnovers.  Let him sit back and learn.  I tried telling you guys this last season with Kizer.  Sure Kizer is not as good as Baker or Tyrod, but you can't throw him into the fire just like that (Hue's fault).  Back to Tyrod, his game will get better with time.  Baker will not see the field this season.  That's a promise.  

    @dawg2fan said:

    Seriously!!!  As fast as the Steeler's D was getting to him.  I can promise you that Baker would've been under much more pressure and I guarantee more turnovers.  Let him sit back and learn.  I tried telling you guys this last season with Kizer.  Sure Kizer is not as good as Baker or Tyrod, but you can't throw him into the fire just like that (Hue's fault).  Back to Tyrod, his game will get better with time.  Baker will not see the field this season.  That's a promise.  

    Baker is already head and shoulders better than Tuh'Rod.. you guys are treating him with kid gloves...Tuh'rod will NOT get better... His passes are just way too fukking soft... He blows!!!

  • Tyrod showed nothing today.  Ghoolie was right, he is a black Tarkenton.?

  • Tyrod showed nothing today.  Ghoolie was right, he is a black Tarkenton.?

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Tyrod showed nothing today.  Ghoolie was right, he is a black Tarkenton.?

    I never wanted that POS to start with.. He's gawd awful... I could do better than him after 3 shots of Slivo in me...

  • I'm reserving judgement on TT... tough conditions made even tougher by playing behind an OL that clearly is weeks away from gelling. Never a good sign when the dirtiest uniform on your team is being worn by your QB.

    Of greater immediate concern to me is the reemergence of an inability to stuff the run. I was afraid of this. And while the slimmed down Conner we saw today is a better player than I was giving him credit for being during the past week... we made him look better than subsequent teams will.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    anyone notice how bad the left side got caved on that block? that was bitonio i beleive

    Yup... looked like somehow he ended up trying to block two rushers tho.

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... looked like somehow he ended up trying to block two rushers tho.

    but he let his pads get up. Rushers pinch together all the time, u have to stay low and cut them down....#HSfundamentals. 

  • I'm reserving judgement on TT... tough conditions made even tougher by playing behind an OL that clearly is weeks away from gelling. Never a good sign when the dirtiest uniform on your team is being worn by your QB.

    Of greater immediate concern to me is the reemergence of an inability to stuff the run. I was afraid of this. And while the slimmed down Conner we saw today is a better player than I was giving him credit for being during the past week... we made him look better than subsequent teams will.

    @tour2ma said:

    I'm reserving judgement on TT... tough conditions made even tougher by playing behind an OL that clearly is weeks away from gelling. Never a good sign when the dirtiest uniform on your team is being worn by your QB.

    Of greater immediate concern to me is the reemergence of an inability to stuff the run. I was afraid of this. And while the slimmed down Conner we saw today is a better player than I was giving him credit for being during the past week... we made him look better than subsequent teams will.

    Weakside cut backs and then a couple designed pulls to the open end were the big gains. 

  • I'm reserving judgement on TT... tough conditions made even tougher by playing behind an OL that clearly is weeks away from gelling. Never a good sign when the dirtiest uniform on your team is being worn by your QB.

    Of greater immediate concern to me is the reemergence of an inability to stuff the run. I was afraid of this. And while the slimmed down Conner we saw today is a better player than I was giving him credit for being during the past week... we made him look better than subsequent teams will.

    @tour2ma said:

    I'm reserving judgement on TT... tough conditions made even tougher by playing behind an OL that clearly is weeks away from gelling. Never a good sign when the dirtiest uniform on your team is being worn by your QB.

    Of greater immediate concern to me is the reemergence of an inability to stuff the run. I was afraid of this. And while the slimmed down Conner we saw today is a better player than I was giving him credit for being during the past week... we made him look better than subsequent teams will.

    Talk about a guy not built for the game today, it is Taylor. Bad conditions for him (or anyone) to have to have your first game with a new team, but man oh man, he underthrew the ball all day long downfield. I didn't mind the interception at the end of the game when he threw down the sideline to Gordon, but he underthrew it so badly he gave Gordon no chance. In OT, Njoku had the safety beat, if Taylor gets it over him Njoku is still running. He is what he is, good enough to start for some teams, not good enough for teams to stop looking eventually for a better alternative. Playing the Saints, who got torched by Matlock watchin' Ryan Fitzpatrick today, indoors should help Taylor. 

    The Browns got rid of some DLinemen that probably would have helped with the run defense, but I'm guessing all-around don't fit William's style. (Meder, Shelton) 

  • we got hit up the middle and over the RT in the run game. Holes we didnt have last year. Late year AFC north games stoppibg the run is imperative. I dont know how some of u dont get that. 

  • we got hit up the middle and over the RT in the run game. Holes we didnt have last year. Late year AFC north games stoppibg the run is imperative. I dont know how some of u dont get that. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    we got hit up the middle and over the RT in the run game. Holes we didnt have last year. Late year AFC north games stoppibg the run is imperative. I dont know how some of u dont get that. 

    Who exactly is arguing against that? 

    I'd love to see the Browns go after a stud DT in the upcoming draft. Garrett causing havoc on the inside, a guy like Houston's Ed Oliver collapsing the pocket from the inside. 

  • @clevfan4life said:

    we got hit up the middle and over the RT in the run game. Holes we didnt have last year. Late year AFC north games stoppibg the run is imperative. I dont know how some of u dont get that. 

    Who exactly is arguing against that? 

    I'd love to see the Browns go after a stud DT in the upcoming draft. Garrett causing havoc on the inside, a guy like Houston's Ed Oliver collapsing the pocket from the inside. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Who exactly is arguing against that? 

    I'd love to see the Browns go after a stud DT in the upcoming draft. Garrett causing havoc on the inside, a guy like Houston's Ed Oliver collapsing the pocket from the inside. 

    promise u we're gonna have another top 3 pick. If so, its gonna be a LDE we pick