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  • LBC mike LBC mikeL Reacting Well Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Dedicated One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
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    LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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    Link is broken

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      IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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      With you on this one clev. With resources galore and trying to balance the win now vs. win later, l don’t get why cutting the DL depth at zero hour was deemed necessary.

      Maybe these dudes will pan out and make me see the light, but right now it feels like we had a perfectly functional unit ready for the season and then blew it all up for greener pastures.

      BTW your link isn’t really linking, but l’m assuming it’s something damning that will further my flustration.

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        LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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        Players always leave their team and thrive elsewhere.

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          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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          https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018/9/6/17826394/detroit-lions-waive-anthony-zettel-analysis-explanation

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            https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018/9/6/17826394/detroit-lions-waive-anthony-zettel-analysis-explanation

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            IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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            @clevfan4life said:

            https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018/9/6/17826394/detroit-lions-waive-anthony-zettel-analysis-explanation

            Ok, it’s not as damning as l thought. He does some things well, not terribly diverse, but motivated. 

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              U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by Unsympathetic
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              This thread is annoying.

              LACK of bottom-of-roster churn is a symptom of a negative, non-winning culture.

              Yes, Nassib can occasionally do something NFL-worthy.. but those flashes were not consistent game to game.  Zettel may not be good at much - but he is better than Nassib at pass rush, and we lacked PR last season.

              This move speaks to a desire to have instant PR off the bench, much like a bench NBA player who's no-D but shoots the lights out.. say Jamal Crawford.

              The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                His overall Pro Football Focus grade was okay (70.7) but his pass rushing grade was not (60.6). He was also just not a very versatile guy. He’s not someone you’d want to drop in to coverage, and we saw plenty of time he had trouble setting the edge—either falling victim to rollouts or play-action.

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  Back during Week 3 of the preseason, head coach Matt Patricia said something very telling.

                  “I would say the roster in general, a philosophy for us would always be if you only do one thing on this roster, it better be extremely well and at an extremely high level.”

                  Anthony Zettel could only do one thing on this roster, and to be frank, he didn’t do it an extremely high level.

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                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                    well, whatever....we'll get to see him this weekend prob. 

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                      chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                      as i already said in the other nassib whine thread, zettel had more sacks last year than nassib, meder, and orchard combined.  

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                        L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                        Giving Shelton away for a bag of footballs and then cutting Meder were both head scratchers for me

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                          Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                          Ya, we already did a thread on this, if you are not plowing the bottom of the roster, you're not doing your job. Orchard and Nassib underachieved... if you are clinging to the bottom of the roster after year three or year four, the team will probably take a look at somebody else with some upside they like.

                          Only thing I blame new front office for so far, is not going out and signing a veteran left tackle back in the spring so a promising guy like Harrison isnt starting Day 1 and holding back the team while we install a new offense.

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                            Back during Week 3 of the preseason, head coach Matt Patricia said something very telling.

                            “I would say the roster in general, a philosophy for us would always be if you only do one thing on this roster, it better be extremely well and at an extremely high level.”

                            Anthony Zettel could only do one thing on this roster, and to be frank, he didn’t do it an extremely high level.

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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            he didn’t do it an extremely high level.

                            What does it say about the state of our roster that Zettel's level, even if it is nowhere near Garrett, was still greatly above that of everyone we cut?

                            The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                              Ya, we already did a thread on this, if you are not plowing the bottom of the roster, you're not doing your job. Orchard and Nassib underachieved... if you are clinging to the bottom of the roster after year three or year four, the team will probably take a look at somebody else with some upside they like.

                              Only thing I blame new front office for so far, is not going out and signing a veteran left tackle back in the spring so a promising guy like Harrison isnt starting Day 1 and holding back the team while we install a new offense.

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              Zombo said:

                              Ya, we already did a thread on this, if you are not plowing the bottom of the roster, you're not doing your job. Orchard and Nassib underachieved... if you are clinging to the bottom of the roster after year three or year four, the team will probably take a look at somebody else with some upside they like.

                              Only thing I blame new front office for so far, is not going out and signing a veteran left tackle back in the spring so a promising guy like Harrison isnt starting Day 1 and holding back the team while we install a new offense.

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                              Except, I thought that they did with the signing of Greg Robinson.  No?

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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                he didn’t do it an extremely high level.

                                What does it say about the state of our roster that Zettel's level, even if it is nowhere near Garrett, was still greatly above that of everyone we cut?

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @unsympathetic said:

                                What does it say about the state of our roster that Zettel's level, even if it is nowhere near Garrett, was still greatly above that of everyone we cut?

                                Well, if you think he is better than the guys we cut, then what it says about our roster is that it should be improved.

                                Fair to say?

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                                  Zombo said:

                                  Ya, we already did a thread on this, if you are not plowing the bottom of the roster, you're not doing your job. Orchard and Nassib underachieved... if you are clinging to the bottom of the roster after year three or year four, the team will probably take a look at somebody else with some upside they like.

                                  Only thing I blame new front office for so far, is not going out and signing a veteran left tackle back in the spring so a promising guy like Harrison isnt starting Day 1 and holding back the team while we install a new offense.

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                                  Except, I thought that they did with the signing of Greg Robinson.  No?

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                                  Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Except, I thought that they did with the signing of Greg Robinson.  No?

                                  He was a dude that was on the street since last year, that they took a flyer on.

                                  I guess other than Nate Solder there wasn't a lot out there though, so I guess I mean Nate Solder.

                                  Zombo

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                                    chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                                    and Nate didn't wanna move too far away from Boston so his son could continue to get cancer treatment at his usual doctor.  so we really had no shot at him

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      Well....it was just one game.  If this guy is as talented as believed   (and everyone believed he was talented, he just did not get drafted because of off field issues), then can we assume that he will improve game by game?

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                                        hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                        Situational pass rusher. 

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                                          Well....it was just one game.  If this guy is as talented as believed   (and everyone believed he was talented, he just did not get drafted because of off field issues), then can we assume that he will improve game by game?

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                                          Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          Well....it was just one game.  If this guy is as talented as believed   (and everyone believed he was talented, he just did not get drafted because of off field issues), then can we assume that he will improve game by game?

                                          Ya, I'm gonna walk back my original statement,  I didn't realize the list of free agent tackles was so weak ... bad year to lose Joe.

                                          We did a good job getting Hubbard and we had four other guys to take a shot at LT (Coleman, Corbett, Robinson, Bito) before we went with the current lineup.

                                          Guess we just have to ride with his guy and give him help  as much as we can. Corbett was actually inactive this week so, he looks like we'll be working on him to make an impact in 2019.

                                          Harrison will be learning on the job ... and hopefully we can win around him while he does that.

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                                          --Cam Erving in the first, Shone Coleman in the third, Rod Johnson in the fifth ... Shame that none of them worked out ... But some of our best LT's were undrafted or drafted late... Tony Jones udfa, Paul Farren 12th rd, Doug Dieken 6th rd TE.

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