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  • Zombo Z
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    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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    Ya, we already did a thread on this, if you are not plowing the bottom of the roster, you're not doing your job. Orchard and Nassib underachieved... if you are clinging to the bottom of the roster after year three or year four, the team will probably take a look at somebody else with some upside they like.

    Only thing I blame new front office for so far, is not going out and signing a veteran left tackle back in the spring so a promising guy like Harrison isnt starting Day 1 and holding back the team while we install a new offense.

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      Back during Week 3 of the preseason, head coach Matt Patricia said something very telling.

      “I would say the roster in general, a philosophy for us would always be if you only do one thing on this roster, it better be extremely well and at an extremely high level.”

      Anthony Zettel could only do one thing on this roster, and to be frank, he didn’t do it an extremely high level.

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      @clevfan4life said:

      he didn’t do it an extremely high level.

      What does it say about the state of our roster that Zettel's level, even if it is nowhere near Garrett, was still greatly above that of everyone we cut?

      The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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        Ya, we already did a thread on this, if you are not plowing the bottom of the roster, you're not doing your job. Orchard and Nassib underachieved... if you are clinging to the bottom of the roster after year three or year four, the team will probably take a look at somebody else with some upside they like.

        Only thing I blame new front office for so far, is not going out and signing a veteran left tackle back in the spring so a promising guy like Harrison isnt starting Day 1 and holding back the team while we install a new offense.

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        Zombo said:

        Ya, we already did a thread on this, if you are not plowing the bottom of the roster, you're not doing your job. Orchard and Nassib underachieved... if you are clinging to the bottom of the roster after year three or year four, the team will probably take a look at somebody else with some upside they like.

        Only thing I blame new front office for so far, is not going out and signing a veteran left tackle back in the spring so a promising guy like Harrison isnt starting Day 1 and holding back the team while we install a new offense.

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        Except, I thought that they did with the signing of Greg Robinson.  No?

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          @clevfan4life said:

          he didn’t do it an extremely high level.

          What does it say about the state of our roster that Zettel's level, even if it is nowhere near Garrett, was still greatly above that of everyone we cut?

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @unsympathetic said:

          What does it say about the state of our roster that Zettel's level, even if it is nowhere near Garrett, was still greatly above that of everyone we cut?

          Well, if you think he is better than the guys we cut, then what it says about our roster is that it should be improved.

          Fair to say?

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            Zombo said:

            Ya, we already did a thread on this, if you are not plowing the bottom of the roster, you're not doing your job. Orchard and Nassib underachieved... if you are clinging to the bottom of the roster after year three or year four, the team will probably take a look at somebody else with some upside they like.

            Only thing I blame new front office for so far, is not going out and signing a veteran left tackle back in the spring so a promising guy like Harrison isnt starting Day 1 and holding back the team while we install a new offense.

            Z

            Except, I thought that they did with the signing of Greg Robinson.  No?

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            Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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            Except, I thought that they did with the signing of Greg Robinson.  No?

            He was a dude that was on the street since last year, that they took a flyer on.

            I guess other than Nate Solder there wasn't a lot out there though, so I guess I mean Nate Solder.

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              chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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              and Nate didn't wanna move too far away from Boston so his son could continue to get cancer treatment at his usual doctor.  so we really had no shot at him

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                Well....it was just one game.  If this guy is as talented as believed   (and everyone believed he was talented, he just did not get drafted because of off field issues), then can we assume that he will improve game by game?

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                  hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                  Situational pass rusher. 

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                    Well....it was just one game.  If this guy is as talented as believed   (and everyone believed he was talented, he just did not get drafted because of off field issues), then can we assume that he will improve game by game?

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    Well....it was just one game.  If this guy is as talented as believed   (and everyone believed he was talented, he just did not get drafted because of off field issues), then can we assume that he will improve game by game?

                    Ya, I'm gonna walk back my original statement,  I didn't realize the list of free agent tackles was so weak ... bad year to lose Joe.

                    We did a good job getting Hubbard and we had four other guys to take a shot at LT (Coleman, Corbett, Robinson, Bito) before we went with the current lineup.

                    Guess we just have to ride with his guy and give him help  as much as we can. Corbett was actually inactive this week so, he looks like we'll be working on him to make an impact in 2019.

                    Harrison will be learning on the job ... and hopefully we can win around him while he does that.

                    Z

                    --Cam Erving in the first, Shone Coleman in the third, Rod Johnson in the fifth ... Shame that none of them worked out ... But some of our best LT's were undrafted or drafted late... Tony Jones udfa, Paul Farren 12th rd, Doug Dieken 6th rd TE.

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                      @clevfan4life said:

                      he didn’t do it an extremely high level.

                      What does it say about the state of our roster that Zettel's level, even if it is nowhere near Garrett, was still greatly above that of everyone we cut?

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by Clevfan4life
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                      @unsympathetic said:

                      What does it say about the state of our roster that Zettel's level, even if it is nowhere near Garrett, was still greatly above that of everyone we cut?

                      it says our dc has completely abandoned the idea of stopping the run cause nassib was our best edge setter, yes better than garret...at least for now. Something that apparently zettel suks at according to this article.

                      but i digress ive not seen a single snap from this kid, so ill bow out of this discussion. I just was so initially taken back by the headline.....cause i assumed zettel must be some practice squad meat. But he's apparently not....so we shall see. 

                      if all these new guys cant get to the qb AND cant set an edge......expect to see too numerous to count posts about it till the end of the season. Im not gonna roast these guys if they're at least serviceable in compliment to garrett, as ogbah is who also couldnt set an edge with a giant scottish claymore. But if they suk at pass rush and suk at run d........why are they here.....

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                        chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                          Situational pass rusher. 

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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                          @hoorta said:

                          Situational pass rusher. 

                          Already had those, h... I think Zettel will be the early down guy.

                          Feels to me like Dorsey is a pressure-the-QB guy. He's gone all-in on that and left it to Williams to figure out how stop the run... and that's going to heavily depend on Peppers in (or near) the box.

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                            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                            well we all saw on sunday what happens when u have a DL that doesnt do fundamentals like keep OL off the LB'ers. U can play that 2004 colts style defense of stopping the run on the way to the qb, when u have peyton manning dropping 2-3 TD's on a team before everyone has made it to their seats. Are we that offense and i just didnt know?

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                              well we all saw on sunday what happens when u have a DL that doesnt do fundamentals like keep OL off the LB'ers. U can play that 2004 colts style defense of stopping the run on the way to the qb, when u have peyton manning dropping 2-3 TD's on a team before everyone has made it to their seats. Are we that offense and i just didnt know?

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                              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                              @clevfan4life said:

                              well we all saw on sunday what happens when u have a DL that doesnt do fundamentals like keep OL off the LB'ers. U can play that 2004 colts style defense of stopping the run on the way to the qb, when u have peyton manning dropping 2-3 TD's on a team before everyone has made it to their seats. Are we that offense and i just didnt know?

                              I literally was going to write the same exact thing Clevfan… 

                              If you are going to sacrifice run defense, you better have an offense that makes the opposing team's run game null and void on a consistent basis. 

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                                Ya, we already did a thread on this, if you are not plowing the bottom of the roster, you're not doing your job. Orchard and Nassib underachieved... if you are clinging to the bottom of the roster after year three or year four, the team will probably take a look at somebody else with some upside they like.

                                Only thing I blame new front office for so far, is not going out and signing a veteran left tackle back in the spring so a promising guy like Harrison isnt starting Day 1 and holding back the team while we install a new offense.

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                                L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                                Zombo said:

                                Only thing I blame new front office for so far, is not going out and signing a veteran left tackle back in the spring so a promising guy like Harrison isnt starting Day 1 and holding back the team while we install a new offense.

                                Z

                                They did to that in their heads, they instead drafted a guard in the 2nd round and moved Bitonio to LT.

                                And Corbett wasn't even dressed on Sunday. They're getting a pass on this and I don't know why. It's a huge Shmuck up

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                                  i know nothing about the saints except drew brees can still sling it. Are we in fir another 100 plus yd rusher with them?

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                                    Looking at the Division rivals, I'm more concerned about Bell, Mixon and Collins than Ben, Dalton and Flacco. 

                                    We can't sacrifice run D. Or at least don't go all in pass D. I like what Tour said about Peppers playing close to the box to balance our run D. 

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                                      i know nothing about the saints except drew brees can still sling it. Are we in fir another 100 plus yd rusher with them?

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                                      @clevfan4life said:

                                      i know nothing about the saints except drew brees can still sling it. Are we in fir another 100 plus yd rusher with them?

                                      Kamara

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                                        i know nothing about the saints except drew brees can still sling it. Are we in fir another 100 plus yd rusher with them?

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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        i know nothing about the saints except drew brees can still sling it. Are we in fir another 100 plus yd rusher with them?

                                        We're in for a healthy dose of Kamara, and it won't be pretty.  He'll likely be over 100 yards rushing AND 100 yards receiving.  He's that good.  

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                                          LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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                                          We got burned by Collins last week.  Seemed like he was open for the pass alot.  Needed like a spy on him.

                                          Kamara will be the same.

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