GOODBYE ZANE!
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https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/09/browns_trying_out_kickers_toda.html
Hey has anybody called him Gone Zales yet?
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10 of the most important makes and misses in football history.
Example: Viking miss out on going to Super Bowl because of Gary Anderson missed 39 yarder in NFC title game, plus some of the ones from above.
Kicking matters.
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https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/09/browns_trying_out_kickers_toda.html
Hey has anybody called him Gone Zales yet?
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https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/09/browns_trying_out_kickers_toda.html
Hey has anybody called him Gone Zales yet?
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Headline in the Beacon Journal today: Going, Going Gonzales.
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https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/09/browns_trying_out_kickers_toda.html
Hey has anybody called him Gone Zales yet?
WSS
Headline in the Beacon Journal today: Going, Going Gonzales.
Headline in the Beacon Journal today: Going, Going Gonzales.
Ba dum, chh
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@ghoolie said:
Yes, THE KICKER........................... FINALLY................................. FINALLY WE HAVE THE ANSWER.
This is just more demonstration of why Tommy Boy is so ignorant about the game of football.
The kicker IS an important element of the game. It would not surprise me, if, after research, some 20-25% of all football games are decided by field goals and extra points, or those that are missed. Sure, it is the entire game, obviously, and if a team is OH SO good that it never has to rely on the success of its kicking game, that is one thing. But, remember.....like every single one of the Patriots Super Bowl wins were by the margin of a field goal (and maybe their losses too). Where would their dynasty be if Vinatieri had missed those two kicks. What would we think about the Buffalo Bills if Norwood had made that kick. What about that fuycking kick that Karliss missed, yet the refs gave it to him.
Yes, a kicker may be AN answer, if not THE answer. The point is simple, again: many, many games come down to kicking. You are foolish if you minimize the importance of it.
This is just more demonstration of why Tommy Boy is so ignorant about the game of football.
The kicker IS an important element of the game. It would not surprise me, if, after research, some 20-25% of all football games are decided by field goals and extra points, or those that are missed.......
That Tommy Boy reference got me laughing!
And yes the snapper, holder, kicker are game deciders A LOT! But the key piece is the kicker, any professional PK should be able to make a 50+ a reasonable percentage to win a game when necessary, from less even more.
- Sept. 17, 2018 NYT
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- The player payroll of an N.F.L. team is about $175 million. But many teams pay the place-kicker on the roster roughly the league minimum salary, which is often less than $1 million annually.
So what? To most fans, it seems like an easy job.
Try telling that to the Minnesota Vikings or the Cleveland Browns. On Sunday, each team surely wished it had loosened the purse strings to pay for a veteran established kicker instead of the young low-cost versions they put in uniform.
The failures of the Minnesota and Cleveland kickers on Sunday were a flabbergasting cavalcade of end-over-end footballs spinning wide left and right of the goal posts. Minnesota’s rookie Daniel Carlson missed three field goal attempts, including two in overtime, and cost the Vikings a critical victory in a game at Green Bay that ended in a tie. Cleveland’s second-year kicker, Zane Gonzalez, missed two key extra points and two field goals, including one in the final seconds of the game, which helped hand the Browns another inconceivable defeat in a game they led most of the time but still lost at New Orleans. The Browns have not won in more than 630 days.
In the coming days, the Vikings and Browns will no doubt devote a lot more time to figuring out who should be handling the kicking duties. They might even give it as much attention as they would a debate about who should be the sixth linebacker on the depth chart (who often makes more money than the kicker as well).....
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Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 2 minutes ago
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefterTurns out Browns' kicker Zane Gonzalez, who is losing Cleveland's kicking job this week, has been kicking with a groin injury that requires an MRI today, per source. Browns could reach an injury settlement with him or put him on waivers, injured.Turns out Browns' kicker Zane Gonzalez, who is losing Cleveland's kicking job this week, has been kicking with a groin injury that requires an MRI today, per source. Browns could reach an injury settlement with him or put him on waivers, injured.
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Just checking more PK stats, totals for 2017 and a link for more information. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/field-goal-percentage-50-plus?season_id=15
NFL Player Stats - Field Goal Percentage, 50+ Yards - 2017
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Yes the blame is on Gonzalez, but damn, that 40+ yard play the D gave up at the end of the game.... well, no one seems to be talking about that. The D has been absolutely great, but why so damn loose on the Defensive scheme? And how many points on turnovers 10... 10 points on what 8 turnovers in two games?
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Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 2 minutes ago
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefterTurns out Browns' kicker Zane Gonzalez, who is losing Cleveland's kicking job this week, has been kicking with a groin injury that requires an MRI today, per source. Browns could reach an injury settlement with him or put him on waivers, injured.Turns out Browns' kicker Zane Gonzalez, who is losing Cleveland's kicking job this week, has been kicking with a groin injury that requires an MRI today, per source. Browns could reach an injury settlement with him or put him on waivers, injured.
Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago
Turns out Browns' kicker Zane Gonzalez, who is losing Cleveland's kicking job this week, has been kicking with a groin injury that requires an MRI today, per source. Browns could reach an injury settlement with him or put him on waivers, injured.
Yea, right. He had plenty of leg on those kicks, he just missed. If he had an injury I think he could have not kicked the ball so far.
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Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago
Turns out Browns' kicker Zane Gonzalez, who is losing Cleveland's kicking job this week, has been kicking with a groin injury that requires an MRI today, per source. Browns could reach an injury settlement with him or put him on waivers, injured.
Yea, right. He had plenty of leg on those kicks, he just missed. If he had an injury I think he could have not kicked the ball so far.
Yea, right. He had plenty of leg on those kicks, he just missed. If he had an injury I think he could have not kicked the ball so far.
And Mr. Zane Gonzo wasn't that good in 2017 either, tied for #32 for overall kicking.....see link for all information. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/field-goal-percentage?season_id=15
NFL Player Stats - Field Goal Percentage - 2017
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@ghoolie said:
Yes, THE KICKER........................... FINALLY................................. FINALLY WE HAVE THE ANSWER.
This is just more demonstration of why Tommy Boy is so ignorant about the game of football.
The kicker IS an important element of the game. It would not surprise me, if, after research, some 20-25% of all football games are decided by field goals and extra points, or those that are missed. Sure, it is the entire game, obviously, and if a team is OH SO good that it never has to rely on the success of its kicking game, that is one thing. But, remember.....like every single one of the Patriots Super Bowl wins were by the margin of a field goal (and maybe their losses too). Where would their dynasty be if Vinatieri had missed those two kicks. What would we think about the Buffalo Bills if Norwood had made that kick. What about that fuycking kick that Karliss missed, yet the refs gave it to him.
Yes, a kicker may be AN answer, if not THE answer. The point is simple, again: many, many games come down to kicking. You are foolish if you minimize the importance of it.
This is just more demonstration of why Tommy Boy is so ignorant about the game of football.
The kicker IS an important element of the game. It would not surprise me, if, after research, some 20-25% of all football games are decided by field goals and extra points, or those that are missed. Sure, it is the entire game, obviously, and if a team is OH SO good that it never has to rely on the success of its kicking game, that is one thing. But, remember.....like every single one of the Patriots Super Bowl wins were by the margin of a field goal (and maybe their losses too). Where would their dynasty be if Vinatieri had missed those two kicks. What would we think about the Buffalo Bills if Norwood had made that kick. What about that fuycking kick that Karliss missed, yet the refs gave it to him.
Yes, a kicker may be AN answer, if not THE answer. The point is simple, again: many, many games come down to kicking. You are foolish if you minimize the importance of it.
Let's just throw out the rest of the game and Tommy's argument. Gone-zalez makes the kick with three seconds left on the clock, tie game and were going to overtime. Would we have won in OT? Who knows, but at least we would have gotten there. He makes one of two extra points, and it's a win with that last second kick.
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@british-browns-fan-everton said:
We didn't today. We lost to bottom of the league team West ham.
Everton are the oldest team in the top flight of English football. They are one of the most successful yet in recent years we haven't won too many trophies.
Last time we were winning was the 80s. And one cup in 1995.
1995 you beat us 4-1 in the semi final
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1995 you beat us 4-1 in the semi final
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Tottenham fan. My dad was at Ellend road.
Good to see another English browns fan.
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Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 2 minutes ago
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefterTurns out Browns' kicker Zane Gonzalez, who is losing Cleveland's kicking job this week, has been kicking with a groin injury that requires an MRI today, per source. Browns could reach an injury settlement with him or put him on waivers, injured.Turns out Browns' kicker Zane Gonzalez, who is losing Cleveland's kicking job this week, has been kicking with a groin injury that requires an MRI today, per source. Browns could reach an injury settlement with him or put him on waivers, injured.
Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago
Turns out Browns' kicker Zane Gonzalez, who is losing Cleveland's kicking job this week, has been kicking with a groin injury that requires an MRI today, per source. Browns could reach an injury settlement with him or put him on waivers, injured.
so if the coach's knew he was hurt why in the hell was he out there ?
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