GOODBYE ZANE!
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Vikings are looking for a kickers and I just heard MKC on the Dan Patrick show say that Blair doesn't want to tryout for the browns.
Vikings are looking for a kickers and I just heard MKC on the Dan Patrick show say that Blair doesn't want to tryout for the browns.
I suppose he wants a freeking Dome team, so that he won't have any adverse affects.
Plus, seems to me that beggars can't be choosers. He doesn't have a job now, and if Bailey gets taken, he will just have to go where he can. Unless he wants to stay home and be an insurance salesman, a grocery bagger, or a high school soccer coach.
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IIRC Blair's miss cost the Vikes a playoff spot... or advancing in the playoffs. Seems like it was Zimmer's 1st year as their HC.
We need to find a good vet who was in large part a cap casualty.
And folks need to lighten up on the Bailey wishin'. If you watched SNF you heard that he had surgery and was simply not the same kicker he was in Cowboy camp. He was a cap casualty-plus...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Bring back Martin. That was the hometown kid who was Zane’s competition in camp right?
I mean honestly, any kicker who doesn’t dwell on his most recent performance is an upgrade.
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So what does it cost a team for a needless loss? There are a lot of variables involved besides even making a playoff spot, from spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/kicker/null/
2018 Kicker Average Rankings
PLAYERAVERAGE1 
Stephen Gostkowski
KICKER$4,300,000 2 
Graham Gano
KICKER$4,250,000 3 
Justin Tucker
KICKER$4,200,000 4 
Mason Crosby
KICKER$4,025,000 5 
Ryan Succop
KICKER$4,000,000 6 
Chris Boswell
KICKER$3,951,500 7 
Matt Prater
KICKER$3,800,000 8 
Brandon McManus
KICKER$3,751,333 9 
Cody Parkey
KICKER$3,750,000 10 
Adam Vinatieri
KICKER$3,625,000 11 
Matt Bryant
KICKER$3,366,667 12 
Chandler Catanzaro
KICKER$3,250,000 13 
Phil Dawson
KICKER$3,000,000 14 
Steven Hauschka
KICKER$2,950,000 15 
Dustin Hopkins
KICKER$2,483,333 16 
Greg Zuerlein
KICKER$2,250,000 17 
Caleb Sturgis
KICKER$2,225,000 18 
Sebastian Janikowski
KICKER$2,015,000 19 
Robbie Gould
KICKER$2,000,000 20 
Mike Nugent
KICKER$1,015,000 21 
Randy Bullock
KICKER$782,500 22 
Jason Myers
KICKER$705,000 23 
Daniel Carlson
KICKER$677,003 24 
Josh Lambo
KICKER$660,000 25 
Jason Sanders
KICKER$637,800 26
Michael Palardy
KICKER$630,000 27 
Zane Gonzalez
KICKER$622,289 28
Eddy Piniero
KICKER$578,333 29
Kaare Vedvik
KICKER$570,000 30 
Ka'imi Fairbairn
KICKER$541,667 31 
Will Lutz
KICKER$540,000 32 
Brett Maher
KICKER$525,000 33 
Harrison Butker
KICKER$510,000 
Aldrick Rosas
KICKER$510,000 
Jake Elliott
KICKER$510,000 36
Sam Ficken
KICKER$480,000 -
IIRC Blair's miss cost the Vikes a playoff spot... or advancing in the playoffs. Seems like it was Zimmer's 1st year as their HC.
We need to find a good vet who was in large part a cap casualty.
And folks need to lighten up on the Bailey wishin'. If you watched SNF you heard that he had surgery and was simply not the same kicker he was in Cowboy camp. He was a cap casualty-plus...
IIRC Blair's miss cost the Vikes a playoff spot... or advancing in the playoffs. Seems like it was Zimmer's 1st year as their HC.
We need to find a good vet who was in large part a cap casualty.
And folks need to lighten up on the Bailey wishin'. If you watched SNF you heard that he had surgery and was simply not the same kicker he was in Cowboy camp. He was a cap casualty-plus...
Ah yes when an accountant can overrule a coach, it happens a lot.
But a bargain basement kicker can cost you dearly at times.
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@ghoolie said:
Yes, THE KICKER........................... FINALLY................................. FINALLY WE HAVE THE ANSWER.
This is just more demonstration of why Tommy Boy is so ignorant about the game of football.
The kicker IS an important element of the game. It would not surprise me, if, after research, some 20-25% of all football games are decided by field goals and extra points, or those that are missed. Sure, it is the entire game, obviously, and if a team is OH SO good that it never has to rely on the success of its kicking game, that is one thing. But, remember.....like every single one of the Patriots Super Bowl wins were by the margin of a field goal (and maybe their losses too). Where would their dynasty be if Vinatieri had missed those two kicks. What would we think about the Buffalo Bills if Norwood had made that kick. What about that fuycking kick that Karliss missed, yet the refs gave it to him.
Yes, a kicker may be AN answer, if not THE answer. The point is simple, again: many, many games come down to kicking. You are foolish if you minimize the importance of it.
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https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/09/browns_trying_out_kickers_toda.html
Hey has anybody called him Gone Zales yet?
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10 of the most important makes and misses in football history.
Example: Viking miss out on going to Super Bowl because of Gary Anderson missed 39 yarder in NFC title game, plus some of the ones from above.
Kicking matters.
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https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/09/browns_trying_out_kickers_toda.html
Hey has anybody called him Gone Zales yet?
WSS
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/09/browns_trying_out_kickers_toda.html
Hey has anybody called him Gone Zales yet?
WSS
Headline in the Beacon Journal today: Going, Going Gonzales.
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https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/09/browns_trying_out_kickers_toda.html
Hey has anybody called him Gone Zales yet?
WSS
Headline in the Beacon Journal today: Going, Going Gonzales.
Headline in the Beacon Journal today: Going, Going Gonzales.
Ba dum, chh
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@ghoolie said:
Yes, THE KICKER........................... FINALLY................................. FINALLY WE HAVE THE ANSWER.
This is just more demonstration of why Tommy Boy is so ignorant about the game of football.
The kicker IS an important element of the game. It would not surprise me, if, after research, some 20-25% of all football games are decided by field goals and extra points, or those that are missed. Sure, it is the entire game, obviously, and if a team is OH SO good that it never has to rely on the success of its kicking game, that is one thing. But, remember.....like every single one of the Patriots Super Bowl wins were by the margin of a field goal (and maybe their losses too). Where would their dynasty be if Vinatieri had missed those two kicks. What would we think about the Buffalo Bills if Norwood had made that kick. What about that fuycking kick that Karliss missed, yet the refs gave it to him.
Yes, a kicker may be AN answer, if not THE answer. The point is simple, again: many, many games come down to kicking. You are foolish if you minimize the importance of it.
This is just more demonstration of why Tommy Boy is so ignorant about the game of football.
The kicker IS an important element of the game. It would not surprise me, if, after research, some 20-25% of all football games are decided by field goals and extra points, or those that are missed.......
That Tommy Boy reference got me laughing!
And yes the snapper, holder, kicker are game deciders A LOT! But the key piece is the kicker, any professional PK should be able to make a 50+ a reasonable percentage to win a game when necessary, from less even more.
- Sept. 17, 2018 NYT
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- The player payroll of an N.F.L. team is about $175 million. But many teams pay the place-kicker on the roster roughly the league minimum salary, which is often less than $1 million annually.
So what? To most fans, it seems like an easy job.
Try telling that to the Minnesota Vikings or the Cleveland Browns. On Sunday, each team surely wished it had loosened the purse strings to pay for a veteran established kicker instead of the young low-cost versions they put in uniform.
The failures of the Minnesota and Cleveland kickers on Sunday were a flabbergasting cavalcade of end-over-end footballs spinning wide left and right of the goal posts. Minnesota’s rookie Daniel Carlson missed three field goal attempts, including two in overtime, and cost the Vikings a critical victory in a game at Green Bay that ended in a tie. Cleveland’s second-year kicker, Zane Gonzalez, missed two key extra points and two field goals, including one in the final seconds of the game, which helped hand the Browns another inconceivable defeat in a game they led most of the time but still lost at New Orleans. The Browns have not won in more than 630 days.
In the coming days, the Vikings and Browns will no doubt devote a lot more time to figuring out who should be handling the kicking duties. They might even give it as much attention as they would a debate about who should be the sixth linebacker on the depth chart (who often makes more money than the kicker as well).....
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Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 2 minutes ago
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefterTurns out Browns' kicker Zane Gonzalez, who is losing Cleveland's kicking job this week, has been kicking with a groin injury that requires an MRI today, per source. Browns could reach an injury settlement with him or put him on waivers, injured.Turns out Browns' kicker Zane Gonzalez, who is losing Cleveland's kicking job this week, has been kicking with a groin injury that requires an MRI today, per source. Browns could reach an injury settlement with him or put him on waivers, injured.
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Just checking more PK stats, totals for 2017 and a link for more information. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/field-goal-percentage-50-plus?season_id=15
NFL Player Stats - Field Goal Percentage, 50+ Yards - 2017
80.0%
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