GOODBYE ZANE!

LBC mike

Vikings are looking for a kickers and I just heard MKC on the Dan Patrick show say that Blair doesn't want to tryout for the browns.

LBC mike

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000963456/article/browns-scheduled-to-work-out-kickers-after-missed-fgs

Dick Mellon

@ghoolie said:

He missed a FG? So too, did their guy miss a FG.

The two missed extra points had no bearing. The kicker problem was the exact same for both teams. A WASH.

It was the wind.

The wind can be terrible in that place.

LondonBrown

@british-browns-fan-everton said:

We didn't today. We lost to bottom of the league team West ham.

Everton are the oldest team in the top flight of English football. They are one of the most successful yet in recent years we haven't won too many trophies.

Last time we were winning was the 80s. And one cup in 1995.

1995 you beat us 4-1 in the semi final ️

jrb12711

What's important to consider as well is the context of the first missed extra point. The Browns in that situation lead 13-3 and with the flow of the game the Saints would have only gone for 1 after the 2nd TD, making it 17-13. Assuming he doesn't wang the 2nd extra point as well, Browns are up 20-17 leading to that final drive by the Saints. Assuming it plays out the same, Browns are at worst tied.

Can't have it. I can maybe live with the missed FG's, but the extra points are inexcusable. Hard to ever say a loss is 100% on one dude, but Zane was responsible for about 95% of the weight of the loss. Tyrod put us in a position to have the lead AND tie the game in the 4th quarter. Get his name out your mouth in the realm of him being the reason we lost.

Mark O

Zombo said:

Didn't Blair Walsh Project single handily lose a playoff game a few years ago?

Zombo

I don't know if it was as single handedly as Gagzonelz yesterday but he did miss a late one for the Vikings I think a couple seasons ago. In his defense, it was like -20 and windy so a bit different than gagging every kick indoors

The Gipper

@nero said:

Isn't Bailey at home? If he can walk, bring him to Cleveland.

Per Schefter this morning, Bailey has actually turned down like 4 offers. Maybe he will be getting some more.

The Gipper

@lbc-mike said:

Vikings are looking for a kickers and I just heard MKC on the Dan Patrick show say that Blair doesn't want to tryout for the browns.

I suppose he wants a freeking Dome team, so that he won't have any adverse affects.

Plus, seems to me that beggars can't be choosers. He doesn't have a job now, and if Bailey gets taken, he will just have to go where he can. Unless he wants to stay home and be an insurance salesman, a grocery bagger, or a high school soccer coach.

Tour2ma

IIRC Blair's miss cost the Vikes a playoff spot... or advancing in the playoffs. Seems like it was Zimmer's 1st year as their HC.

We need to find a good vet who was in large part a cap casualty.

And folks need to lighten up on the Bailey wishin'. If you watched SNF you heard that he had surgery and was simply not the same kicker he was in Cowboy camp. He was a cap casualty-plus...

Ibleedbrown

Bring back Martin. That was the hometown kid who was Zane’s competition in camp right?

I mean honestly, any kicker who doesn’t dwell on his most recent performance is an upgrade.

mjp28

So what does it cost a team for a needless loss? There are a lot of variables involved besides even making a playoff spot, from spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/kicker/null/

2018 Kicker Average Rankings

	PLAYER	AVERAGE
1	Stephen Gostkowski KICKER	$4,300,000
2	Graham Gano KICKER	$4,250,000
3	Justin Tucker KICKER	$4,200,000
4	Mason Crosby KICKER	$4,025,000
5	Ryan Succop KICKER	$4,000,000
6	Chris Boswell KICKER	$3,951,500
7	Matt Prater KICKER	$3,800,000
8	Brandon McManus KICKER	$3,751,333
9	Cody Parkey KICKER	$3,750,000
10	Adam Vinatieri KICKER	$3,625,000
11	Matt Bryant KICKER	$3,366,667
12	Chandler Catanzaro KICKER	$3,250,000
13	Phil Dawson KICKER	$3,000,000
14	Steven Hauschka KICKER	$2,950,000
15	Dustin Hopkins KICKER	$2,483,333
16	Greg Zuerlein KICKER	$2,250,000
17	Caleb Sturgis KICKER	$2,225,000
18	Sebastian Janikowski KICKER	$2,015,000
19	Robbie Gould KICKER	$2,000,000
20	Mike Nugent KICKER	$1,015,000
21	Randy Bullock KICKER	$782,500
22	Jason Myers KICKER	$705,000
23	Daniel Carlson KICKER	$677,003
24	Josh Lambo KICKER	$660,000
25	Jason Sanders KICKER	$637,800
26	Michael Palardy KICKER	$630,000
27	Zane Gonzalez KICKER	$622,289
28	Eddy Piniero KICKER	$578,333
29	Kaare Vedvik KICKER	$570,000
30	Ka'imi Fairbairn KICKER	$541,667
31	Will Lutz KICKER	$540,000
32	Brett Maher KICKER	$525,000
33	Harrison Butker KICKER	$510,000
	Aldrick Rosas KICKER	$510,000
	Jake Elliott KICKER	$510,000
36	Sam Ficken KICKER	$480,000

mjp28

@tour2ma said:

IIRC Blair's miss cost the Vikes a playoff spot... or advancing in the playoffs. Seems like it was Zimmer's 1st year as their HC.

We need to find a good vet who was in large part a cap casualty.

And folks need to lighten up on the Bailey wishin'. If you watched SNF you heard that he had surgery and was simply not the same kicker he was in Cowboy camp. He was a cap casualty-plus...

Ah yes when an accountant can overrule a coach, it happens a lot.

But a bargain basement kicker can cost you dearly at times.

The Gipper

@ghoolie said:

Yes, THE KICKER........................... FINALLY................................. FINALLY WE HAVE THE ANSWER.

This is just more demonstration of why Tommy Boy is so ignorant about the game of football.

The kicker IS an important element of the game. It would not surprise me, if, after research, some 20-25% of all football games are decided by field goals and extra points, or those that are missed. Sure, it is the entire game, obviously, and if a team is OH SO good that it never has to rely on the success of its kicking game, that is one thing. But, remember.....like every single one of the Patriots Super Bowl wins were by the margin of a field goal (and maybe their losses too). Where would their dynasty be if Vinatieri had missed those two kicks. What would we think about the Buffalo Bills if Norwood had made that kick. What about that fuycking kick that Karliss missed, yet the refs gave it to him.

Yes, a kicker may be AN answer, if not THE answer. The point is simple, again: many, many games come down to kicking. You are foolish if you minimize the importance of it.