Chad Thomas???

[TexasAg1969]

The two best drafts thus far IMO are the Cards and the Broncos

[Dutch Oven]

@cambridgeho said:

The same as it has as a Cavs and Indians fan as well. Not gonna lose sleep over if a guy was drafted in the 2nd round, but had a 4th round grade, but could possibly be a good 3rd rounder. 

Yeah, being a team that is competent in drafting is definitely overrated. 

[mjp28]

@dutch-oven said:

Yeah, being a team that is competent in drafting is definitely overrated. 

The BROWNS horrific drafting over the past few years has a LOT to do with the 1-31 recond. Tons of swings and misses!

.......edit add, and in general since 1999.

[tiamat63]

I've watched 3 full games of his.

You see the flashes of greatness that show why he was a 5* recruit.    The physical gifts to play all over the formation are there but he needs a great deal of work.   I feel this is a pick that could have been had later if not maybe even today.  

[cambridgeho]

@dutch-oven said:

Yeah, being a team that is competent in drafting is definitely overrated. 

Yours words. The main goal is to win a superbowl. Look at the last 10 superbowl winners and tell me fit of scheme doesnt outweigh need. Alot of these teams dont need to hit on every pick, because these teams win and good players want to go there in FA. The browns have been in a vucious cycle of over paid freeagents and not properly developing what we have because of coach and gm turnover. Last year we were the youngest team and competed. This year we have some great talent and hopefully a system.

[Dutch Oven]

@cambridgeho said:

Last year we were the youngest team and competed.

Competed? 

The Browns not only have gone 1-31 the last two seasons, but they've been the worst team vs the spread in the NFL too. That means as bad as everyone thinks they are (and the guys in Vegas who set the lines) the Browns have actually been worse. 

But honestly, I'm not even mad at you, I've been around Browns message boards long enough to know better. The weekend of the draft objectivity is completely discarded, replaced by rampant sunshine pumping by Browns fans. I shouldn't fight it, just let it slowly dissipate.  

[Flugel]

@tour2ma said:

DraftScout graded him as a 6-7 cusp...

This is up there with Kessler for length of reach... So maybe it was Hue's pick???

One of the commentators said the pick had Highsmith and Wolfe written all over it from their ties to the Miami Hurricanes program. 

[cambridgeho]

@dutch-oven said:

Competed? 

The Browns not only have gone 1-31 the last two seasons, but they've been the worst team vs the spread in the NFL too. That means as bad as everyone thinks they are (and the guys in Vegas who set the lines) the Browns have actually been worse. 

But honestly, I'm not even mad at you, I've been around Browns message boards long enough to know better. The weekend of the draft objectivity is completely discarded, replaced by rampant sunshine pumping by Browns fans. I shouldn't fight it, just let it slowly dissipate.  

 We are 1 and 31. We have been in games and made boneheaded plays. With freeagency additions and our draft, there is no where but up man.

[tiamat63]

@cambridgeho said:

 We are 1 and 31. We have been in games and made boneheaded plays. With freeagency additions and our draft, there is no where but up man.

You fail to consider this - it's Cleveland.  

[Undertaker]

I questioned this pick when it was made and I still think it sucks...has anyone heard about him? I think he had a muscle pull in training camp. 

[Zombo]

Played some last week with Ogbah out, you'll probably see him out there tonight.

Z