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  • Tons and tons of people were all over him before the draft.  Except for one long run he's doing a hell of a Trent Richardson impression. 

  • A little tidbit from the Dan Patrick show. The last time a rookie came off the bench to lead his team to victory was 1961. Ironically it was White Tarkenton..............yep..............the real one.?

  • Gay. Barkley is one of four players the last 25 years to have 100 rush yards and 100 receiving yards through the first two games. 

    We should have taken Barkley #1 and traded to number 2 and taken Baker. Said it from the start. Still the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Grudge Gipper- prime example that you just can't trust the law, just a bunch of vengeful power hungry wannabee bullies... and I mean that with the utmost respect your honor 😉 

  • Gay. Barkley is one of four players the last 25 years to have 100 rush yards and 100 receiving yards through the first two games. 

    We should have taken Barkley #1 and traded to number 2 and taken Baker. Said it from the start. Still the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Grudge Gipper- prime example that you just can't trust the law, just a bunch of vengeful power hungry wannabee bullies... and I mean that with the utmost respect your honor 😉 

    @poeticg said:

    Gay. Barkley is one of four players the last 25 years to have 100 rush yards and 100 receiving yards through the first two games. 

    We should have taken Barkley #1 and traded to number 2 and taken Baker. Said it from the start. Still the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Grudge Gipper- prime example that you just can't trust the law, just a bunch of vengeful power hungry wannabee bullies... and I mean that with the utmost respect your honor 😉 

    You're fuc k i n g high.

  • Never wanted Barkley to begin with. Giants could very well go another two win season with their first round RB and Shurmur at the helm. 

    To be forthright, I wasn’t hot on Baker either even though I understand why they picked him. Two quarters and he’s already changed my opinion of him. Dude looked like no QB I’ve seen in Cleveland since I was a child... And those memories are unreliable at best.

  • @poeticg said:

    Gay. Barkley is one of four players the last 25 years to have 100 rush yards and 100 receiving yards through the first two games. 

    We should have taken Barkley #1 and traded to number 2 and taken Baker. Said it from the start. Still the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Grudge Gipper- prime example that you just can't trust the law, just a bunch of vengeful power hungry wannabee bullies... and I mean that with the utmost respect your honor 😉 

    You're fuc k i n g high.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You're fuc k i n g high.

    If you call being stupid A form of being high I guess he is. 

  • im fine with carlos and duke, justvwant them to get a vickers type of human bowling ball that can consistently spring carlos to thev2nd level. Id rather have carlos, duke and chubb than tie everything up in one runner. RB's get hurt so easily and when u put a workload on a guy like the giants are gonna do wuth saquon, it wirks fir like a year or two. Im already noticing a tad dropoff in elliot. 

  • Zeke's fine... his OL? Not so much...

  • Zeke's fine... his OL? Not so much...

    @tour2ma said:

    Zeke's fine... his OL? Not so much...

    Once they realize he is a great weapon inside the 5, he will start scoring and/or opening up the short passes with PA. 

    I have him on my fantasy roster. Hasn't paid off biggly yet, but he may.

  • Who still thinks we should have taken Saquon "once in a generation" Barkley #1 overall?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Who still thinks we should have taken Saquon "once in a generation" Barkley #1 overall?

    that would have been stupid - like old Browns orgs. and I just shake my head when a PoG says to NOT draft that qb, because we could just draft him later. (after another team nabs him before the 4th pick). Just.....ridiculous.

    Hyde and Chubb and Duke are just terrific with me.

  • Zeke's fine... his OL? Not so much...

    @tour2ma said:

    Zeke's fine... his OL? Not so much...

    as good as they were his first year, zeke still made alot of his own plays. Maybe its still early and he hasnt found his burst....but i noticed in the giants game some seams he didnt get through that he oblitersted through his rookie year. He's still great, better than what we have but not sure by how much anymore.

    To illustrate my point, im not worried at all about our running game if carlos gets dinged. If zeke gets hurt, what do they have? I used to be a huge proponent of the star RB cause i grew up in the prime of barry sanders.....the very first football play i ever watched was a long run by walter the great. But now i prefer a commitee. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Zeke's fine... his OL? Not so much...

    as good as they were his first year, zeke still made alot of his own plays. Maybe its still early and he hasnt found his burst....but i noticed in the giants game some seams he didnt get through that he oblitersted through his rookie year. He's still great, better than what we have but not sure by how much anymore.

    To illustrate my point, im not worried at all about our running game if carlos gets dinged. If zeke gets hurt, what do they have? I used to be a huge proponent of the star RB cause i grew up in the prime of barry sanders.....the very first football play i ever watched was a long run by walter the great. But now i prefer a commitee. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    But now i prefer a commitee. 

    Certainly does not hurt to have a lead-dog chairing the committee, e.g., ATL's Freeman/Coleman duo, but to invest so heavily in one back is yesterday's philosophy.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    But now i prefer a commitee. 

    Certainly does not hurt to have a lead-dog chairing the committee, e.g., ATL's Freeman/Coleman duo, but to invest so heavily in one back is yesterday's philosophy.

    @tour2ma said:

    Certainly does not hurt to have a lead-dog chairing the committee, e.g., ATL's Freeman/Coleman duo, but to invest so heavily in one back is yesterday's philosophy.

    Mack/Byner, Pruitt/Pruitt, is it a philosophy or using what you have?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Certainly does not hurt to have a lead-dog chairing the committee, e.g., ATL's Freeman/Coleman duo, but to invest so heavily in one back is yesterday's philosophy.

    Mack/Byner, Pruitt/Pruitt, is it a philosophy or using what you have?

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Mack/Byner, Pruitt/Pruitt, is it a philosophy or using what you have?

    Do you have what you have due to your philosophy? ?

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    Mack/Byner, Pruitt/Pruitt, is it a philosophy or using what you have?

    Do you have what you have due to your philosophy? ?

    @tour2ma said:

    Do you have what you have due to your philosophy? ?

    A good coach works with a players abilities. You don't force a system. The players you have mandate the philosophy.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Do you have what you have due to your philosophy? ?

    A good coach works with a players abilities. You don't force a system. The players you have mandate the philosophy.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    A good coach works with a players abilities. You don't force a system. The players you have mandate the philosophy.

    Agree, but is that germane here?

    Teams can have a philosophy about how much draft capital they are willing to invest in the RB position.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    A good coach works with a players abilities. You don't force a system. The players you have mandate the philosophy.

    Agree, but is that germane here?

    Teams can have a philosophy about how much draft capital they are willing to invest in the RB position.

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree, but is that germane here?

    Teams can have a philosophy about how much draft capital they are willing to invest in the RB position.

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree, but is that germane here?

    Teams can have a philosophy about how much draft capital they are willing to invest in the RB position.

    That's where your GM as a talent evaluator comes in.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    A good coach works with a players abilities. You don't force a system. The players you have mandate the philosophy.

    Agree, but is that germane here?

    Teams can have a philosophy about how much draft capital they are willing to invest in the RB position.

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree, but is that germane here?

    Teams can have a philosophy about how much draft capital they are willing to invest in the RB position.

    "The godd.amn Germans ain't got nothin' to do with it".

  • Gay. Barkley is one of four players the last 25 years to have 100 rush yards and 100 receiving yards through the first two games. 

    We should have taken Barkley #1 and traded to number 2 and taken Baker. Said it from the start. Still the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Grudge Gipper- prime example that you just can't trust the law, just a bunch of vengeful power hungry wannabee bullies... and I mean that with the utmost respect your honor 😉 

    @poeticg said:

    Gay. Barkley is one of four players the last 25 years to have 100 rush yards and 100 receiving yards through the first two games. 

    We should have taken Barkley #1 and traded to number 2 and taken Baker. Said it from the start. Still the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Grudge Gipper- prime example that you just can't trust the law, just a bunch of vengeful power hungry wannabee bullies... and I mean that with the utmost respect your honor 😉 

    Too bad almost no one agrees with you. The price of moving up to #2 was too high. Also would have meant passing on Denzel Ward, who's looking like the DROY. We'd probably be 0-3 without him now. You're also forgetting the power pyramid. Franchise QB trumps anything else, and shut down corner ranks above running back. 

    Your dreamboat man crush Saquon has produced ZERO wins for the Giants to date, and the rumblings they should have drafted Darnold instead have already started. So there.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Agree, but is that germane here?

    Teams can have a philosophy about how much draft capital they are willing to invest in the RB position.

    "The godd.amn Germans ain't got nothin' to do with it".

    @jbluhm86 said:

    "The godd.amn Germans ain't got nothin' to do with it".

    "Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"