Survey Wednesday

nickers

@tour2ma said:

Any relation to Chuck?

Last two-way player in the NFL...

Slept on this one...

MJ, LBJ, Magic, Olajuwon...

All conventional choices except Hakeem, but he was the most athletic Center I've ever seen and he could do it all... Offense with range... Defense. Just a joy to watch him play.

Perhaps you need an upgrade on cheaters :P.. Ok yes.. I meant chuck.. I had a whale of a time remembering his name.. but here is what you missed!!

7. Name your Mt. Rushmore of NBA players in history.

Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell

Tour2ma

@nickers said:

Perhaps you need an upgrade on cheaters :P.. Ok yes.. I meant chuck.. I had a whale of a time remembering his name.. but here is what you missed!!

lol... I had an advantage.

Every year going into double sessions in H.S. our coaches would show us an NFL Films production on Chuck. There are a few on youtube, but not the one I remember.

Dutch Oven

@tour2ma said:

lol... I had an advantage.

Every year going into double sessions in H.S. our coaches would show us an NFL Films production on Chuck. There are a few on youtube, but not the one I remember.

I remember Art Donovan of the Colts, perhaps the greatest interview in NFL history, describe Bednarik's prowess as a center: "He couldn't block my grandmother."

Ghoolie

Ray Narleski should get honorable mention. If Bob Feller wasn't there, Narleski would have been the star. One hell of a pitcher

Dutch Oven

@ghoolie said:

Ray Narleski should get honorable mention. If Bob Feller wasn't there, Narleski would have been the star. One hell of a pitcher

Glad to see your lack of knowledge about sports isn't limited to only football.

The Gipper

@ghoolie said:

Ray Narleski should get honorable mention. If Bob Feller wasn't there, Narleski would have been the star. One hell of a pitcher

Narleski and Feller didn't really didn't compete for a starting spot.

Narleski's had a short career....only played 6 years, 5 with the Indians. From 1954 to 1958. His record was 39-21.

Feller played a couple of years with Narleski at the end of his career.

So, while Narleski may have been a bit of a cult figure...to you, no one is going to put him on the Mt. Rushmore of MLB pitchers.

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But....an interesting question would be:

Who would be on the Mt. Rushmore of Indians pitchers over history? Feller....Lemon....Harder....Covaleski....Addie Joss...Early Wynn....Sam McDowell...Kluber...

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And note this: Cy Young spent 9 years with the Cleveland Spiders of the National League and another 3 with the Indians.

Which brings up another question....perhaps for the Tribe forum: Why did not the Cleveland Spiders continue on as a National League team? They began in 1887 and lasted until 1899, then folded apparently. But, the Indians (by another name) began just 2 years later, in 1901. So Cleveland was without a major league baseball team for just one single year: 1900.

So, what happened to the Cleveland Spiders?

Dutch Oven

@the-gipper said:

Which brings up another question....perhaps for the Tribe forum: Why did not the Cleveland Spiders continue on as a National League team? They began in 1887 and lasted until 1899, then folded apparently. But, the Indians (by another name) began just 2 years later, in 1901. So Cleveland was without a major league baseball team for just one single year: 1900.

So, what happened to the Cleveland Spiders?

Somehow the owner of the Spiders also owned a franchise in St. Louis (I think) and for reasons I don't remember off the top of my head decided to transfer all the good players off the Spiders to St. Louis. The Spiders were the literal version of the movie 'Major League' Indians, made up of castoffs and never-was-is's… They finished the season 20-134.

Tour2ma

I was going to go with: Down came the rain and washed the spiders out...

The Gipper

@tour2ma said:

I was going to go with: Down came the rain and washed the spiders out...

So, maybe if in fact the political correctness of things essentially forces the Tribe to change their name, would anyone want them to revert to The Spiders?

I don't know.....I hate spiders.

Dutch Oven

@the-gipper said:

So, maybe if in fact the political correctness of things essentially forces the Tribe to change their name, would anyone want them to revert to The Spiders?

I don't know.....I hate spiders.

I imagine that a good logo would be a marketing bonanza.

hoorta

@canton-mike said:

Getting back to golf, how the HELL do you leave Arnold Palmer off? He took the perception of golf as a "rich man's game" & brought it to the average guy. He was truly the "Ambassador of Golf". Had it not been for Arnold Palmer, Tiger (through his Dad) may never have had the opportunity he has had. Arnold Palmer is definitely one of the most significant contributors to golf history. IMHO, leaving him off is a travesty!

Mike

MHO the reason Arnie gets overlooked is because he never completed the Grand Slam. Guys that I'd nominate besides Byron Nelson, Ben Hogan, for sure Sam Snead, Nicklaus, and Tiger.