NFL Phucks Cleveland Twice in 4 Weeks

BrownB499

Was I seeing things, or was there 1:40 left on the clock after Hyde's first down run, then 1:41 after his second down run.

Bob806

Agree. Let's revisit the Overtime session...

1st down: blow to the head on baker, no call
2nd down: roughing flag on Oakland, picked up and no call after "discussion"
3rd down: pass interference on Oak, no call AGAIN

I swear there's a memo out there in the league office stating

Dear Head of Officiating-

The fans of Cleveland got their team, name and colors back. That is plenty. There are to be no official calls or replay reviews that benefit that franchise moving forward.

Sincerely,

Paul Tagliabue

CC: Roger Goodell

nickers

The refs did everything humanely possible to ensure a raiders victory and succeedded...

Babernakle

My question is what is haslam going to do about it. Someone’s head at the nfl offices has to roll this is beyond acceptable. Haslam needs to take this as far as he can and get the loss vacated

browns52

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Agreed. That was a first down. That fking referee Shmucked us.

don't know bout you,,,,,but i didn't see any replay with an elbow down before the first down marker.....however there is usually more than one angle on replays...maybe we did not get that shot and the refs did...but what i saw was a Shmucking first down....even blandino the ref guru was calling it a first down.....we also got Shmucked on a defensive td.....what the Shmuck was that...no way was carr in the grasp....football is getting so Shmucked up and it's the refs that are causing it....they should not get paid one Shmucking cent for the way some of these calls are being made...not just this game but other games to...

DieHardBrownsFan

@babernakle said:

My question is what is haslam going to do about it. Someone’s head at the nfl offices has to roll this is beyond acceptable. Haslam needs to take this as far as he can and get the loss vacated

Never happen.

LondonBrown

@babernakle said:

My question is what is haslam going to do about it. Someone’s head at the nfl offices has to roll this is beyond acceptable. Haslam needs to take this as far as he can and get the loss vacated

Haslam is lucky he is still an owner after the legal problems, he cant do Sheet

Babernakle

Kinda strange the Oakland covers the spread and are moving to Las Vegas

onkyoreceiver

And let's not be forgetting about the totally completely obvious two fistfuls of Schoberts jersey grabbed by the RT on Lynch's first down run. No flag. I have truly never seen anything like this. It's just total Shmucking outer limits.

@bob806 said:

Agree. Let's revisit the Overtime session...

1st down: blow to the head on baker, no call

2nd down: roughing flag on Oakland, picked up and no call after "discussion"

3rd down: pass interference on Oak, no call AGAIN

I swear there's a memo out there in the league office stating

Dear Head of Officiating-

The fans of Cleveland got their team, name and colors back. That is plenty. There are to be no official calls or replay reviews that benefit that franchise moving forward.

Sincerely,

Paul Tagliabue

CC: Roger Goodell

OldBrownsFan

I thought if anything the replay showed even more clearly that Hyde had made the first down. I couldn't believe that got overturned in the booth. The game should have been over and never gone into OT.

Babernakle

If this was any other team is there anyone that can sit here and tell me that would have been over turned

browns52

@gumby73 said:

This was not about any team winning the game..They don't care who wins..This turned into a game the refs kept viewers watching..it's total viewership BS imho..

don't know....you may be right...but whatever it is, football has become so Shmucked up......and it Shmucking blows...

LondonBrown

https://twitter.com/KirkHerbstreit/status/1046538662333345792

mjp28

@flugel said:

Anyone all pumped up for the next meaningless apology from the NFL?

This team is 3-1 but the NFL wants us 1-2-1 so that's what we are.

I almost NEVER complain about officiating, spots, judgement calls because some can be close and all of that -but- this just stunk.

Cost the BROWNS a road win, you do not get that back no matter how offical the stationary looks or sincere they might make it sound.

Canton Mike

My take...

1) If the refs are this effin' inept, then the person(s) hiring them should be fired.

2) I honestly believe these refs are "on the take".

3) EITHER one of the calls (1st down reversal & "no fumble" by Carr), if called properly, would have led to a certain Browns victory. Reversal of the Loss to a Win is the ONLY action by the league that is acceptible, but that won't happen as the nfl is a SHAM!

Mike

calfoxwc

@londonbrown said:

https://twitter.com/KirkHerbstreit/status/1046538662333345792

It sure the hell WAS a fumble. and it WAS a first down. The Browns lost the close game on both counts, because the refs sucked.

Yes, the Browns made plenty of mistakes, but so did the raiders. the refs were the difference and decided the winner of the game.

DieHardBrownsFan

Don't matter what you think mike. That's life in the new NFL.

calfoxwc

@jrb12711 said:

If anything on that run they spotted hyde short. Dean on the broadcast was literally mouth agape when they overturned it. I truly hope the nfl does a true investigation, but they wont.

Haslam needs to RIP them a new one. We won this damn game.

the first spot was inches short of where they corrected it, and the replay was not

conclusive, and it was ruled a first down and...

whatever. The NFL will apologize again. whoopdedoo dammit.

Tour2ma

Color me crazy....

jiggins7919

I'm going to break my "24 Hour Post" rule again, but I'll try and keep it somewhat neutral.

I have never, and I mean NEVER seen a spot like that changed. Not only that, but the original spot was atrocious, and the ref moved it back from his original line. I didn't even think it was CLOSE. I celebrated. I high-fived my family. I screamed "FINALLY!" but I should've known. Heck, I DID know we were going to lose. The writing was all over the wall. It was the smallest 14 point lead in league history. The ref signaled first down by the smallest of margins, I actually let myself celebrate. I hugged my wife and screamed in happiness, so much that my cranky dog came staggering out of her kennel and joined in the fun. Deep down, I knew better.

The refs weren't going to let us win the game. Obviously we know that, we're used to it. Maybe not used to it, but we're getting there. It's how it is, guys. I was wrong about the score, but was right about the margin of loss. The close ones hurt the most. You want the really bad news? This was our last/best chance to actually have a winning record. Now, there's no telling how many years we'll wait. It certainly won't be this season. Good news? Baker is the real deal. He'll level out those mistakes, and he'll be just fine. We found our guy. Unfortunately, he learned first hand what it means to be a Cleveland Brown. He now understands why so many rookies don't want to come here. It's a career death knell.

You know what really hurts? Every one of us knew the Raiders were going to score a touchdown and get the conversion. None of us had faith in our defense, and it's obvious why. We won last week because we played a rookie. We don't get to play rookies every week, unfortunately.

This loss will crush our team. It will completely demoralize us, and send us on a losing spiral we haven't seen since....well...I guess last year. Look at our schedule. See some wins? Me either. Baker made mistakes that cost us the game, and the refs made sure they counted. He's a rookie, it'll happen every week. But you know what? I'm cool with it. I'm cool with it because Baker will be very good, I really believe that. But right now? Right now we lose. We lose in awful fashion. We lose when we think we have the game won. We lose when all we need is one inch, we get the inch, but the NFL takes it away. We lose because...well...we just do.

And it's only getting started. I know this one hurts, it really does. But we're starting a rookie QB, and there will be more downs than ups. There's always a steep learning curve. This won't the first time, and we'll have many more losses just as bad as this one. What I do know is that Baker will also have a magical game here and there, even as a rookie. He'll be the one winning at the last second. When will that happen? Who knows. But it will happen eventually, and when Baker finally "gets it" (and he will, I feel it)....good times will come to the Browns.