NFL Phucks Cleveland Twice in 4 Weeks
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Kinda strange the Oakland covers the spread and are moving to Las Vegas
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Agree. Let's revisit the Overtime session...
- 1st down: blow to the head on baker, no call
- 2nd down: roughing flag on Oakland, picked up and no call after "discussion"
- 3rd down: pass interference on Oak, no call AGAIN
I swear there's a memo out there in the league office stating
Dear Head of Officiating-
The fans of Cleveland got their team, name and colors back. That is plenty. There are to be no official calls or replay reviews that benefit that franchise moving forward.
Sincerely,
Paul Tagliabue
CC: Roger Goodell
And let's not be forgetting about the totally completely obvious two fistfuls of Schoberts jersey grabbed by the RT on Lynch's first down run. No flag. I have truly never seen anything like this. It's just total Shmucking outer limits.
Agree. Let's revisit the Overtime session...
- 1st down: blow to the head on baker, no call
- 2nd down: roughing flag on Oakland, picked up and no call after "discussion"
- 3rd down: pass interference on Oak, no call AGAIN
I swear there's a memo out there in the league office stating
Dear Head of Officiating-
The fans of Cleveland got their team, name and colors back. That is plenty. There are to be no official calls or replay reviews that benefit that franchise moving forward.
Sincerely,
Paul Tagliabue
CC: Roger Goodell
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I thought if anything the replay showed even more clearly that Hyde had made the first down. I couldn't believe that got overturned in the booth. The game should have been over and never gone into OT.
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If this was any other team is there anyone that can sit here and tell me that would have been over turned
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@gumby73 said:
This was not about any team winning the game..They don't care who wins..This turned into a game the refs kept viewers watching..it's total viewership BS imho..
@gumby73 said:
This was not about any team winning the game..They don't care who wins..This turned into a game the refs kept viewers watching..it's total viewership BS imho..
don't know....you may be right...but whatever it is, football has become so Shmucked up......and it Shmucking blows...
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Anyone all pumped up for the next meaningless apology from the NFL?
This team is 3-1 but the NFL wants us 1-2-1 so that's what we are.
Anyone all pumped up for the next meaningless apology from the NFL?
This team is 3-1 but the NFL wants us 1-2-1 so that's what we are.
I almost NEVER complain about officiating, spots, judgement calls because some can be close and all of that -but- this just stunk.
Cost the BROWNS a road win, you do not get that back no matter how offical the stationary looks or sincere they might make it sound.
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My take...
1) If the refs are this effin' inept, then the person(s) hiring them should be fired.
2) I honestly believe these refs are "on the take".
3) EITHER one of the calls (1st down reversal & "no fumble" by Carr), if called properly, would have led to a certain Browns victory. Reversal of the Loss to a Win is the ONLY action by the league that is acceptible, but that won't happen as the nfl is a SHAM!
Mike
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It sure the hell WAS a fumble. and it WAS a first down. The Browns lost the close game on both counts, because the refs sucked.
Yes, the Browns made plenty of mistakes, but so did the raiders. the refs were the difference and decided the winner of the game.
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Don't matter what you think mike. That's life in the new NFL.
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If anything on that run they spotted hyde short. Dean on the broadcast was literally mouth agape when they overturned it. I truly hope the nfl does a true investigation, but they wont.
Haslam needs to RIP them a new one. We won this damn game.
If anything on that run they spotted hyde short. Dean on the broadcast was literally mouth agape when they overturned it. I truly hope the nfl does a true investigation, but they wont.
Haslam needs to RIP them a new one. We won this damn game.
the first spot was inches short of where they corrected it, and the replay was not
conclusive, and it was ruled a first down and...
whatever. The NFL will apologize again. whoopdedoo dammit.
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I'm going to break my "24 Hour Post" rule again, but I'll try and keep it somewhat neutral.
I have never, and I mean NEVER seen a spot like that changed. Not only that, but the original spot was atrocious, and the ref moved it back from his original line. I didn't even think it was CLOSE. I celebrated. I high-fived my family. I screamed "FINALLY!" but I should've known. Heck, I DID know we were going to lose. The writing was all over the wall. It was the smallest 14 point lead in league history. The ref signaled first down by the smallest of margins, I actually let myself celebrate. I hugged my wife and screamed in happiness, so much that my cranky dog came staggering out of her kennel and joined in the fun. Deep down, I knew better.
The refs weren't going to let us win the game. Obviously we know that, we're used to it. Maybe not used to it, but we're getting there. It's how it is, guys. I was wrong about the score, but was right about the margin of loss. The close ones hurt the most. You want the really bad news? This was our last/best chance to actually have a winning record. Now, there's no telling how many years we'll wait. It certainly won't be this season. Good news? Baker is the real deal. He'll level out those mistakes, and he'll be just fine. We found our guy. Unfortunately, he learned first hand what it means to be a Cleveland Brown. He now understands why so many rookies don't want to come here. It's a career death knell.
You know what really hurts? Every one of us knew the Raiders were going to score a touchdown and get the conversion. None of us had faith in our defense, and it's obvious why. We won last week because we played a rookie. We don't get to play rookies every week, unfortunately.
This loss will crush our team. It will completely demoralize us, and send us on a losing spiral we haven't seen since....well...I guess last year. Look at our schedule. See some wins? Me either. Baker made mistakes that cost us the game, and the refs made sure they counted. He's a rookie, it'll happen every week. But you know what? I'm cool with it. I'm cool with it because Baker will be very good, I really believe that. But right now? Right now we lose. We lose in awful fashion. We lose when we think we have the game won. We lose when all we need is one inch, we get the inch, but the NFL takes it away. We lose because...well...we just do.
And it's only getting started. I know this one hurts, it really does. But we're starting a rookie QB, and there will be more downs than ups. There's always a steep learning curve. This won't the first time, and we'll have many more losses just as bad as this one. What I do know is that Baker will also have a magical game here and there, even as a rookie. He'll be the one winning at the last second. When will that happen? Who knows. But it will happen eventually, and when Baker finally "gets it" (and he will, I feel it)....good times will come to the Browns.
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Things are only going yo change when the Browns get rid of the worst coach in NFL history
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They obviously have the talent. But they have the worst coach in NFL history
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well, krystal ball, if they had known they'd score that much, they would have kicked the extra points I suppose.
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It's magnified because the team isn't any good. Oakland fans would be saying the same thing about the whistle on the Lynch run if they lost, just two $chit teams battling it out.
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The quick whistles offset each other since they were really quick on the one on the Lynch run and then the fumble that we would've recovered. The truly bad call is the overturn of the first down that basically cost us the game. However, the defense still had an 8 point lead, less than 2 minutes and let them cruise down for the TD and the 2 point.
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