NFL Phucks Cleveland Twice in 4 Weeks
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They deserved to lose. Going three and out how many times in a row to end the game?
And special teams is an absolute joke.
Bullshi+ - they deserved to win. They put up 42 points on that team and sealed the deal by picking up a first down with under 2 minutes, with Gruden out of TOs. Game Over. The Browns won the game, period. The record can say what it wants. We beat Pittsburgh too. The Browns are 3-1, quit bitching.
Bullshi+ - they deserved to win. They put up 42 points on that team and sealed the deal by picking up a first down with under 2 minutes, with Gruden out of TOs. Game Over. The Browns won the game, period. The record can say what it wants. We beat Pittsburgh too. The Browns are 3-1, quit bitching.
They let Oakland march down the field with no timeouts and score not only the td but the tying 2 point conversion.
They also had 4 turnovers and 8 dropped passes. Not a winning formula.
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I just have this to say though. Hue Jackson has no cajones. When they didn't get the spot you get back out there and get the fu¢king 1st down.
No, punting was not the right call, clearly. You get the 1st.
I just have this to say though. Hue Jackson has no cajones.
Not his fault... Vrabel has them all.
..... and I'm Batman.
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
I keep hearing 'we put up 42 poinrts'. We still f u k ing lost.
Yup... tends to happen when the other team scores 43... or more...
We are all expecting the NFL to be fair. Look the NFL is in the business to pick winners and losers PERIOD. The LA television market means more to the NFL then the Cleveland market does. Another reason that might have precipitated this review was the need to keep the game close and within the point spread, remember this is a business. This call that was reversed in NYC was specifically called out for review because if there was a way to provide an extra opportunity to the Raiders to win or keep it close the NFL was going to make that happen. Now the NFL doesn't have a crystal ball that allows them to see into the future but they did know that allowing Cleveland to get a 1st down would of effectively ended the game. Again if Cleveland was 3-0 (and in my opinion they should be) this would not have been an issue and the play would have stood as called on the field and Cleveland would be 4-0 but the NFL knows Cleveland would be OK with a close loss because Cleveland is use to losing. Make no mistake, this is about respect and the NFL has none for Cleveland so gird your loins because this season Cleveland will not just have to compete with another team each week but with that team's 13th "Man" in NYC, the NFL's Central Replay Command". And remember the motto of the NFL's Central Replay Command: "A Force to Make Winners and for Bookies".
1. OAK is in the LA Market?
2. You should have stopped after one post.

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it was truly a team loss, without the turnovers, Browns win this easily.Also, our top 5 D lets the raiders score 8 points at the end of the game. They will be okay, these next 2-3 years are going to be the new era Browns and they will be successful, gimme another draft like this past year and we will be rolling. they are SO CLOSE
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I just have this to say though. Hue Jackson has no cajones.
Not his fault... Vrabel has them all.
..... and I'm Batman.
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
I keep hearing 'we put up 42 poinrts'. We still f u k ing lost.
Yup... tends to happen when the other team scores 43... or more...
We are all expecting the NFL to be fair. Look the NFL is in the business to pick winners and losers PERIOD. The LA television market means more to the NFL then the Cleveland market does. Another reason that might have precipitated this review was the need to keep the game close and within the point spread, remember this is a business. This call that was reversed in NYC was specifically called out for review because if there was a way to provide an extra opportunity to the Raiders to win or keep it close the NFL was going to make that happen. Now the NFL doesn't have a crystal ball that allows them to see into the future but they did know that allowing Cleveland to get a 1st down would of effectively ended the game. Again if Cleveland was 3-0 (and in my opinion they should be) this would not have been an issue and the play would have stood as called on the field and Cleveland would be 4-0 but the NFL knows Cleveland would be OK with a close loss because Cleveland is use to losing. Make no mistake, this is about respect and the NFL has none for Cleveland so gird your loins because this season Cleveland will not just have to compete with another team each week but with that team's 13th "Man" in NYC, the NFL's Central Replay Command". And remember the motto of the NFL's Central Replay Command: "A Force to Make Winners and for Bookies".
1. OAK is in the LA Market?
2. You should have stopped after one post.

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Dude, I learned my math at Greenbriar.
YEOMEN RULE!
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I just have this to say though. Hue Jackson has no cajones. When they didn't get the spot you get back out there and get the fu¢king 1st down.
No, punting was not the right call, clearly. You get the 1st.
I just have this to say though. Hue Jackson has no cajones. When they didn't get the spot you get back out there and get the fu¢king 1st down.
No, punting was not the right call, clearly. You get the 1st.
Hue has no drawers?

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I just have this to say though. Hue Jackson has no cajones.
Not his fault... Vrabel has them all.
..... and I'm Batman.
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
I keep hearing 'we put up 42 poinrts'. We still f u k ing lost.
Yup... tends to happen when the other team scores 43... or more...
We are all expecting the NFL to be fair. Look the NFL is in the business to pick winners and losers PERIOD. The LA television market means more to the NFL then the Cleveland market does. Another reason that might have precipitated this review was the need to keep the game close and within the point spread, remember this is a business. This call that was reversed in NYC was specifically called out for review because if there was a way to provide an extra opportunity to the Raiders to win or keep it close the NFL was going to make that happen. Now the NFL doesn't have a crystal ball that allows them to see into the future but they did know that allowing Cleveland to get a 1st down would of effectively ended the game. Again if Cleveland was 3-0 (and in my opinion they should be) this would not have been an issue and the play would have stood as called on the field and Cleveland would be 4-0 but the NFL knows Cleveland would be OK with a close loss because Cleveland is use to losing. Make no mistake, this is about respect and the NFL has none for Cleveland so gird your loins because this season Cleveland will not just have to compete with another team each week but with that team's 13th "Man" in NYC, the NFL's Central Replay Command". And remember the motto of the NFL's Central Replay Command: "A Force to Make Winners and for Bookies".
1. OAK is in the LA Market?
2. You should have stopped after one post.

Not his fault... Vrabel has them all.
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yup... tends to happen when the other team scores 43... or more...
1. OAK is in the LA Market?
2. You should have stopped after one post.

The entire LA market consists of LA, OAK and as far north as San Fran. They also call it the California market. In any case the market is far larger than Cleveland not matter how you slice it and it's all about $$$$
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Not his fault... Vrabel has them all.
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yup... tends to happen when the other team scores 43... or more...
1. OAK is in the LA Market?
2. You should have stopped after one post.

The entire LA market consists of LA, OAK and as far north as San Fran. They also call it the California market. In any case the market is far larger than Cleveland not matter how you slice it and it's all about $$$$
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Not his fault... Vrabel has them all.
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yup... tends to happen when the other team scores 43... or more...
1. OAK is in the LA Market?
2. You should have stopped after one post.

The entire LA market consists of LA, OAK and as far north as San Fran. They also call it the California market. In any case the market is far larger than Cleveland not matter how you slice it and it's all about $$$$
The entire LA market consists of LA, OAK and as far north as San Fran. They also call it the California market. In any case the market is far larger than Cleveland not matter how you slice it and it's all about $$$$
No the entire LA market doesn't consist of Oakland and San Francisco and "they" don't call it the California market. Oakland and San Francisco are about an 8 hour drive from LA and about as different as markets could possibly be. Northern California hates everything Southern California and vice versa. The only difference is the Raiders fans don't seem to care where they play. There are as many Raiders fans in LA as there are Rams and way more Raiders fans than there are Chargers fans in LA. Its why the team can move up and down the coast like the ice capades and they don't lose any fans. Same reason why the move to Vegas won't really hurt them all that much. Vegas is closer to LA than Oakland is which makes it easy for the LA Raiders fans to go to the games.
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The entire LA market consists of LA, OAK and as far north as San Fran. They also call it the California market. In any case the market is far larger than Cleveland not matter how you slice it and it's all about $$$$
No the entire LA market doesn't consist of Oakland and San Francisco and "they" don't call it the California market. Oakland and San Francisco are about an 8 hour drive from LA and about as different as markets could possibly be. Northern California hates everything Southern California and vice versa. The only difference is the Raiders fans don't seem to care where they play. There are as many Raiders fans in LA as there are Rams and way more Raiders fans than there are Chargers fans in LA. Its why the team can move up and down the coast like the ice capades and they don't lose any fans. Same reason why the move to Vegas won't really hurt them all that much. Vegas is closer to LA than Oakland is which makes it easy for the LA Raiders fans to go to the games.
No the entire LA market doesn't consist of Oakland and San Francisco and "they" don't call it the California market. Oakland and San Francisco are about an 8 hour drive from LA and about as different as markets could possibly be. Northern California hates everything Southern California and vice versa. The only difference is the Raiders fans don't seem to care where they play. There are as many Raiders fans in LA as there are Rams and way more Raiders fans than there are Chargers fans in LA. Its why the team can move up and down the coast like the ice capades and they don't lose any fans. Same reason why the move to Vegas won't really hurt them all that much. Vegas is closer to LA than Oakland is which makes it easy for the LA Raiders fans to go to the games.
Right Mark, depending on where you live in the LA area, it's four hours or less to Vegas.
LOL, I had to correct that typo- done on my tablet this morning, just noticed it.... Four hours to the star Vega isn't happening unless you hop on the Enterprise at Warp Factor Four.
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The entire LA market consists of LA, OAK and as far north as San Fran. They also call it the California market. In any case the market is far larger than Cleveland not matter how you slice it and it's all about $$$$
No the entire LA market doesn't consist of Oakland and San Francisco and "they" don't call it the California market. Oakland and San Francisco are about an 8 hour drive from LA and about as different as markets could possibly be. Northern California hates everything Southern California and vice versa. The only difference is the Raiders fans don't seem to care where they play. There are as many Raiders fans in LA as there are Rams and way more Raiders fans than there are Chargers fans in LA. Its why the team can move up and down the coast like the ice capades and they don't lose any fans. Same reason why the move to Vegas won't really hurt them all that much. Vegas is closer to LA than Oakland is which makes it easy for the LA Raiders fans to go to the games.
No the entire LA market doesn't consist of Oakland and San Francisco and "they" don't call it the California market. Oakland and San Francisco are about an 8 hour drive from LA and about as different as markets could possibly be. Northern California hates everything Southern California and vice versa. The only difference is the Raiders fans don't seem to care where they play. There are as many Raiders fans in LA as there are Rams and way more Raiders fans than there are Chargers fans in LA. Its why the team can move up and down the coast like the ice capades and they don't lose any fans. Same reason why the move to Vegas won't really hurt them all that much. Vegas is closer to LA than Oakland is which makes it easy for the LA Raiders fans to go to the games.
Yes, stupid as hell to say that Oakland and LA are the same market, when they are 400 miles apart. That would mean that the NFL cities of Cincinnati, Detroit, Indianapolis, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Baltimore, Philadelphia and Washington DC are all actually just a part of the Cleveland market.
So...why shouldn't all the people in those areas be fans of the Browns?
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Roughing the passer on Myles Garrett.
Fumble by Derek Carr, Browns "reversed" first down.
What the Shmuck ever... The Browns are 3-1. I won't see it any other way.
NFL QUIT Shmucking CLEVELAND OVER YOU PUSSY BITCHES.
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If I can wrap a bow in this-who is watching the Patriots game? Running back us dangerously close to 1st down and could have been short. Booth review keeps a first down-shocked!
That's what is fundamentally broken with the nfl.
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If I can wrap a bow in this-who is watching the Patriots game? Running back us dangerously close to 1st down and could have been short. Booth review keeps a first down-shocked!
That's what is fundamentally broken with the nfl.
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anyone see the sack on Andrew luck with 2 patriots body weight coming down on him? No call
league is completely full of s h I t
its a shame my favorite team is in the NFL
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A celebratory blunt is in order. Congrats Gordon and thanks for being good for us 5 years ago. He will never reach the production he did with us. Even with Brady
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A celebratory blunt is in order. Congrats Gordon and thanks for being good for us 5 years ago. He will never reach the production he did with us. Even with Brady
A celebratory blunt is in order. Congrats Gordon and thanks for being good for us 5 years ago. He will never reach the production he did with us. Even with Brady
No one will reach that production with Brady because Gordon was our only weapon then. Brady is the best there is at spreading it around consistently. Last night he he used every offensive weapon he had so that you never knew who was going to get the ball from him. Two great runners and multiple great receivers, including the runners.
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anyone see the sack on Andrew luck with 2 patriots body weight coming down on him? No call
league is completely full of s h I t
its a shame my favorite team is in the NFL
league is completely full of s h I t
in the game tie-ing drive, BBC gets a illegal contact call after releasing receiver 3 yards off LOS..Watch Gordon run td pattern? 15 yards down field as he gets goat roped before break to run pattern to right endzone..nothing.sure it gets declined but, yes am convinced they could throw a flag on every play..but the refs have a choice when to..
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So easy to let the Pats win. They are supposed to win
I wouldn't even say it's about "letting them win". It's just simply as I tried to say all week that the NFL has a fundamental problem with how they review and referee. As I said, there's a 0% chance that first down gets overturned if that's the Pats, and we saw that live in and color Thursday.
My issue is the NFL knows, and doesn't care. The fans eventually will.
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I didn't think this would happen....but it did.
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