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  • On the poll question I just wanted to know if you believed him or her. Just that question. But seems like some of the guys had some opinions on whether or not you'd like to see him on the bench. So let us know why you would or would not like to see him confirmed. Now are you happy Tia? ?

    It would be cool if we could keep this to Judicial philosophy instead of allegations.

    WSS

  • Why no poll?

  • Why no poll?

    @mld-woody said:

    Why no poll?

    There's already a poll question there Woody. I couldn't get an actual poll to come up on my Android. You can certainly give your opinion as to whether or not you'll think you'll be confirmed. I just wondering what everybody thought I bought him as a judge. As far as we can tell I mean.

    WSS

  • For instance Tia was upset about his ruling concerning the Fourth Amendment.

    WSS

  • Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

    Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

    It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

  • Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

    Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

    It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

    Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

    It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

    I thought Collins did a good job in showing that Ford had a weak case and the evidence didn't support her claims and the accused should have a presumption of innocence. On judicial philosophy though I had concerns as she also did a good job in showing there might not be a hill of beans difference between Kavanaugh and Merrick Garland on judicial philosophy except one has a D and the other an R. 

    Excerpt from Collins speech:

    "that he (Kavanaugh) and Chief Judge Merrick Garland voted the same way in 93 percent of the cases that they heard together. Indeed Chief Judge Garland joined in more than 96 percent of the majority opinions authored by Judge Kavanaugh, dissenting only once.

  • Tia some guys called themselves conservatives I don't necessarily just because so many of the liberal issues I have no problem with or might even support. On the other hand I'm a little bit further right on the fourth amendment and Fifth Amendment just as a right or wrong thing. I don't want a dangerous criminal let out on the street because somebody didn't read him his rights in his particular dialect of Spanish or Ebonics. But it seems people always want a jurist who will respect precedent and the Patriot Act has already been decided. I understand some people might want to dismantle the Patriot Act, if you do I might disagree.

    WSS

  • Kavanaugh is the man, if he can't do it, nobody can.  MAGA.

  • https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/what-s-next-kavanaugh-all-eyes-2-key-senators-chamber-n917106

    Of course before this completely unprecedented fit of rage by the Democrats nobody spoke ill of this judge. I understand they are mad about Merrick Garland

    WSS

  • I thought Ford's testimony was compelling. I wouldn't be surprised if she is truly a victim of sexual assault. Unfortunately, human memory is unreliable, especially in cases of trauma. People have been sent to prison for rapes they didn't commit, and they're now getting overturned due to DNA evidence. Given that there's not a shred of contemporary evidence that he did this. Given that the event occurred 30+ years ago. Given the politically convenient timing of the accusation. Given that you are innocent until proven guilty. Kavanaugh has a right to be a judge on the SCOTUS.

    I hope the person who leaked the memo gets discovered and crucified. That act ruined the lives and reputations of Kavanaugh, Ford, and their families.

  • Hey Dr. Vapor, how you doing.

  • Howdy. Busy. How about you?

    Go Browns. Shmuck Jimmy Haslam.

  • Good to hear.  Damn, time flies.   I remember when you were taking your MCAT? (spelling).

  • https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/what-s-next-kavanaugh-all-eyes-2-key-senators-chamber-n917106

    Of course before this completely unprecedented fit of rage by the Democrats nobody spoke ill of this judge. I understand they are mad about Merrick Garland

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/what-s-next-kavanaugh-all-eyes-2-key-senators-chamber-n917106

    Of course before this completely unprecedented fit of rage by the Democrats nobody spoke ill of this judge. I understand they are mad about Merrick Garland

    WSS

    They fail to recognize however that republicans confirmed sotomayer and kagel, two liberal women judges with nine r votes for sotomayer and 6 for kagel. Since they're all racist woman hating rapists this comes as a surprise. 

    Gorsuch, by the way, had 3 d votes and the democrats attempted to filibuster his nomination. 

    So...you know...maybe kavanaugh had a point when he said this was mostly revenge

  • I would be a no. The accusations didn’t affect me as much as his defense.  

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  • Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

    Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

    It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

    Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

    It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

    It's nonsense to claim Kavanaugh worked on the "erosion of the 4th and 5th Amendments".

    http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/07/judge-kavanaugh-on-the-fourth-amendment/

    and, it's nonsense to claim that the state AND fed can bring charges for the same crime.

    That's bs. if you are acquitted in Federal court, why the bleep is it proper to cost you twice for a lawyer, etc etc etc...

    to be tried a second time, by a state that wants to make you an example of some political hay they want to make?

        Just a nonsense claim/talking point.

    https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-prohibition-against-double-jeopardy.html

    and I applaud Kavanaugh's stance on our 2nd Amendment. It is per the Founding Father's intent and words of the Constitution.

    Justice Kennedy didn't undermine the 4th Amendment.etc.

    nope - no legimate claims. Just politically motivated hack jobs at a justice that will NOT be a ginsburg, or a few others on the court already.

      Remember? NO LITMUS TEST.

    unless it's in your favor, ya?

  • @westside-steve said:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/what-s-next-kavanaugh-all-eyes-2-key-senators-chamber-n917106

    Of course before this completely unprecedented fit of rage by the Democrats nobody spoke ill of this judge. I understand they are mad about Merrick Garland

    WSS

    They fail to recognize however that republicans confirmed sotomayer and kagel, two liberal women judges with nine r votes for sotomayer and 6 for kagel. Since they're all racist woman hating rapists this comes as a surprise. 

    Gorsuch, by the way, had 3 d votes and the democrats attempted to filibuster his nomination. 

    So...you know...maybe kavanaugh had a point when he said this was mostly revenge

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    They fail to recognize however that republicans confirmed sotomayer and kagel, two liberal women judges with nine r votes for sotomayer and 6 for kagel. Since they're all racist woman hating rapists this comes as a surprise. 

    Gorsuch, by the way, had 3 d votes and the democrats attempted to filibuster his nomination. 

    So...you know...maybe kavanaugh had a point when he said this was mostly revenge

    No doubt. And Merrick Garland really should have had a hearing. They could have easily voted him down so I don't see the problem for the hearing. I'm sure they can whip up phony outrage as easily as the Democrats can. Well maybe not quite but you know...

    WSS

  • I would be a no. The accusations didn’t affect me as much as his defense.  

    @baconhound said:

    I would be a no. The accusations didn’t affect me as much as his defense.  

    Come on bacon if somebody made such an awful accusation against you which could have seriously affected your entire life wouldn't you be angry? Really really really angry?

    WSS

  • @baconhound said:

    I would be a no. The accusations didn’t affect me as much as his defense.  

    Come on bacon if somebody made such an awful accusation against you which could have seriously affected your entire life wouldn't you be angry? Really really really angry?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Come on bacon if somebody made such an awful accusation against you which could have seriously affected your entire life wouldn't you be angry? Really really really angry?

    WSS

    Absolutely, and call me old fashion, I’d hope the most logical, reasonable minds in charge of making the hardest of decisions that affect our nation could reign in their emotions and provide a sound explanation.  I don’t need to hear I was top of my class, Captain of the basketball team and did my church service.  If he simply stated over and over, “I did not do what I was accused of” that would’ve been sufficient to me.  I don’t need your “good guy resume” in the “my dad can beat up your dad” tone.