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    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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    I thought Ford's testimony was compelling. I wouldn't be surprised if she is truly a victim of sexual assault. Unfortunately, human memory is unreliable, especially in cases of trauma. People have been sent to prison for rapes they didn't commit, and they're now getting overturned due to DNA evidence. Given that there's not a shred of contemporary evidence that he did this. Given that the event occurred 30+ years ago. Given the politically convenient timing of the accusation. Given that you are innocent until proven guilty. Kavanaugh has a right to be a judge on the SCOTUS.

    I hope the person who leaked the memo gets discovered and crucified. That act ruined the lives and reputations of Kavanaugh, Ford, and their families.

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      Hey Dr. Vapor, how you doing.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        Howdy. Busy. How about you?

        Go Browns. Shmuck Jimmy Haslam.

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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          Good to hear.  Damn, time flies.   I remember when you were taking your MCAT? (spelling).

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          • W Westside Steve

            https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/what-s-next-kavanaugh-all-eyes-2-key-senators-chamber-n917106

            Of course before this completely unprecedented fit of rage by the Democrats nobody spoke ill of this judge. I understand they are mad about Merrick Garland

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            @westside-steve said:

            https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/what-s-next-kavanaugh-all-eyes-2-key-senators-chamber-n917106

            Of course before this completely unprecedented fit of rage by the Democrats nobody spoke ill of this judge. I understand they are mad about Merrick Garland

            WSS

            They fail to recognize however that republicans confirmed sotomayer and kagel, two liberal women judges with nine r votes for sotomayer and 6 for kagel. Since they're all racist woman hating rapists this comes as a surprise. 

            Gorsuch, by the way, had 3 d votes and the democrats attempted to filibuster his nomination. 

            So...you know...maybe kavanaugh had a point when he said this was mostly revenge

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              I would be a no. The accusations didn’t affect me as much as his defense.  

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                AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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                  Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

                  Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

                  It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

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                  @tiamat63 said:

                  Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

                  Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

                  It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

                  It's nonsense to claim Kavanaugh worked on the "erosion of the 4th and 5th Amendments".

                  http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/07/judge-kavanaugh-on-the-fourth-amendment/

                  and, it's nonsense to claim that the state AND fed can bring charges for the same crime.

                  That's bs. if you are acquitted in Federal court, why the bleep is it proper to cost you twice for a lawyer, etc etc etc...

                  to be tried a second time, by a state that wants to make you an example of some political hay they want to make?

                      Just a nonsense claim/talking point.

                  https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-prohibition-against-double-jeopardy.html

                  and I applaud Kavanaugh's stance on our 2nd Amendment. It is per the Founding Father's intent and words of the Constitution.

                  Justice Kennedy didn't undermine the 4th Amendment.etc.

                  nope - no legimate claims. Just politically motivated hack jobs at a justice that will NOT be a ginsburg, or a few others on the court already.

                    Remember? NO LITMUS TEST.

                  unless it's in your favor, ya?

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                    @westside-steve said:

                    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/what-s-next-kavanaugh-all-eyes-2-key-senators-chamber-n917106

                    Of course before this completely unprecedented fit of rage by the Democrats nobody spoke ill of this judge. I understand they are mad about Merrick Garland

                    WSS

                    They fail to recognize however that republicans confirmed sotomayer and kagel, two liberal women judges with nine r votes for sotomayer and 6 for kagel. Since they're all racist woman hating rapists this comes as a surprise. 

                    Gorsuch, by the way, had 3 d votes and the democrats attempted to filibuster his nomination. 

                    So...you know...maybe kavanaugh had a point when he said this was mostly revenge

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                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                    They fail to recognize however that republicans confirmed sotomayer and kagel, two liberal women judges with nine r votes for sotomayer and 6 for kagel. Since they're all racist woman hating rapists this comes as a surprise. 

                    Gorsuch, by the way, had 3 d votes and the democrats attempted to filibuster his nomination. 

                    So...you know...maybe kavanaugh had a point when he said this was mostly revenge

                    No doubt. And Merrick Garland really should have had a hearing. They could have easily voted him down so I don't see the problem for the hearing. I'm sure they can whip up phony outrage as easily as the Democrats can. Well maybe not quite but you know...

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                      I would be a no. The accusations didn’t affect me as much as his defense.  

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                      @baconhound said:

                      I would be a no. The accusations didn’t affect me as much as his defense.  

                      Come on bacon if somebody made such an awful accusation against you which could have seriously affected your entire life wouldn't you be angry? Really really really angry?

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                      • W Westside Steve

                        @baconhound said:

                        I would be a no. The accusations didn’t affect me as much as his defense.  

                        Come on bacon if somebody made such an awful accusation against you which could have seriously affected your entire life wouldn't you be angry? Really really really angry?

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                        B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                        @westside-steve said:

                        Come on bacon if somebody made such an awful accusation against you which could have seriously affected your entire life wouldn't you be angry? Really really really angry?

                        WSS

                        Absolutely, and call me old fashion, I’d hope the most logical, reasonable minds in charge of making the hardest of decisions that affect our nation could reign in their emotions and provide a sound explanation.  I don’t need to hear I was top of my class, Captain of the basketball team and did my church service.  If he simply stated over and over, “I did not do what I was accused of” that would’ve been sufficient to me.  I don’t need your “good guy resume” in the “my dad can beat up your dad” tone.

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                          I'm pretty certain the dems would then ridicule him for no passion that would be normal for having your excellent name

                          and entire life and family completely dragged through stinking mud for democratic sudden litmus test reasons.

                          that is what is bs.

                          The worst thing in the world is if he was an unfeeling robot in his own defense - the entire claim would flip.

                          "he's a liar - any innocent American Dad, Father, Husband and Son would be really upset at their lives being destroyed"

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                            F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                            like the 2016 election (and the upcoming midterms) 

                            Ill still hold to my disbelief in the confirmation until it is officially announced today...

                            51-49 

                            you  guys watch Browns games right?

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                              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              I would like to think the circus ends today with Kavanaugh's confirmation but that won't be the case with many demonrats. They are already talking about holding hearings (if they take back the House) to try to have Kavanaugh impeached. The Soros paid mobs in DC will continue on. Speaking of mobs that is the way many demonrats would like to rule by mob. People need to wake up with what they were trying to do with Kavanaugh. They were on a mission to destroy him by any means possible including doing away with a principle that dates back to Moses such as the presumption of innocence.

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                                like the 2016 election (and the upcoming midterms) 

                                Ill still hold to my disbelief in the confirmation until it is officially announced today...

                                51-49 

                                you  guys watch Browns games right?

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                                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                @fairhooker11 said:

                                like the 2016 election (and the upcoming midterms) 

                                Ill still hold to my disbelief in the confirmation until it is officially announced today...

                                51-49 

                                you  guys watch Browns games right?

                                Collins impressed me even as a liberal republican to be a woman of principle and I don't think the mobs surrounding her and attacking her will change her vote. I have doubts with Flake but even if he flips now they would still have the votes. Manchin wants to be re-elected in W. Va. and he isn't going to change his vote. Never say never but I think later this evening it will Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

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                                  Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

                                  Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

                                  It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

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                                  @tiamat63 said:

                                  Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

                                  Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

                                  It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

                                  What is it about the 2nd 4th or 5th Amendment that you are concerned with having Kavanaugh on the bench? 

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                                    @fairhooker11 said:

                                    like the 2016 election (and the upcoming midterms) 

                                    Ill still hold to my disbelief in the confirmation until it is officially announced today...

                                    51-49 

                                    you  guys watch Browns games right?

                                    Collins impressed me even as a liberal republican to be a woman of principle and I don't think the mobs surrounding her and attacking her will change her vote. I have doubts with Flake but even if he flips now they would still have the votes. Manchin wants to be re-elected in W. Va. and he isn't going to change his vote. Never say never but I think later this evening it will Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

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                                    F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                                    Collins impressed me even as a liberal republican to be a woman of principle and I don't think the mobs surrounding her and attacking her will change her vote. I have doubts with Flake but even if he flips now they would still have the votes. Manchin wants to be re-elected in W. Va. and he isn't going to change his vote. Never say never but I think later this evening it will Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

                                    and like you said in the other post - not without repercussions 

                                    especially if the mid terms dont bring in more reasonable people 

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                                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                                      Collins impressed me even as a liberal republican to be a woman of principle and I don't think the mobs surrounding her and attacking her will change her vote. I have doubts with Flake but even if he flips now they would still have the votes. Manchin wants to be re-elected in W. Va. and he isn't going to change his vote. Never say never but I think later this evening it will Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

                                      and like you said in the other post - not without repercussions 

                                      especially if the mid terms dont bring in more reasonable people 

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                                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                      @fairhooker11 said:

                                      and like you said in the other post - not without repercussions 

                                      especially if the mid terms dont bring in more reasonable people 

                                      The devil always overplays his hand. Polls are now showing a big shift towards the republicans. After seeing the shameful antics of the left to destroy Kavanaugh by any means possible I think many people are  now waking up. They couldn't be waking up at a better time. The odds are still against the republicans keeping control of the House but I think they now have a fighting chance.  In the Senate I predict they will pick up three seats and hopefully even more with some dem senators in heavily red states having to defend their no vote against Kavanaugh.

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                                          Just wanted to mention that not unlike talking smack before the Steelers game I will personally feel a lot better about this vote once it's finished.

                                          I don't trust politicians and especially Democrats.

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