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  • BaconHound B One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    I would be a no. The accusations didn’t affect me as much as his defense.  

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        Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

        Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

        It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

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        @tiamat63 said:

        Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

        Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

        It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

        It's nonsense to claim Kavanaugh worked on the "erosion of the 4th and 5th Amendments".

        http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/07/judge-kavanaugh-on-the-fourth-amendment/

        and, it's nonsense to claim that the state AND fed can bring charges for the same crime.

        That's bs. if you are acquitted in Federal court, why the bleep is it proper to cost you twice for a lawyer, etc etc etc...

        to be tried a second time, by a state that wants to make you an example of some political hay they want to make?

            Just a nonsense claim/talking point.

        https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-prohibition-against-double-jeopardy.html

        and I applaud Kavanaugh's stance on our 2nd Amendment. It is per the Founding Father's intent and words of the Constitution.

        Justice Kennedy didn't undermine the 4th Amendment.etc.

        nope - no legimate claims. Just politically motivated hack jobs at a justice that will NOT be a ginsburg, or a few others on the court already.

          Remember? NO LITMUS TEST.

        unless it's in your favor, ya?

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          @westside-steve said:

          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/what-s-next-kavanaugh-all-eyes-2-key-senators-chamber-n917106

          Of course before this completely unprecedented fit of rage by the Democrats nobody spoke ill of this judge. I understand they are mad about Merrick Garland

          WSS

          They fail to recognize however that republicans confirmed sotomayer and kagel, two liberal women judges with nine r votes for sotomayer and 6 for kagel. Since they're all racist woman hating rapists this comes as a surprise. 

          Gorsuch, by the way, had 3 d votes and the democrats attempted to filibuster his nomination. 

          So...you know...maybe kavanaugh had a point when he said this was mostly revenge

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          @the-cysko-kid said:

          They fail to recognize however that republicans confirmed sotomayer and kagel, two liberal women judges with nine r votes for sotomayer and 6 for kagel. Since they're all racist woman hating rapists this comes as a surprise. 

          Gorsuch, by the way, had 3 d votes and the democrats attempted to filibuster his nomination. 

          So...you know...maybe kavanaugh had a point when he said this was mostly revenge

          No doubt. And Merrick Garland really should have had a hearing. They could have easily voted him down so I don't see the problem for the hearing. I'm sure they can whip up phony outrage as easily as the Democrats can. Well maybe not quite but you know...

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            I would be a no. The accusations didn’t affect me as much as his defense.  

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            @baconhound said:

            I would be a no. The accusations didn’t affect me as much as his defense.  

            Come on bacon if somebody made such an awful accusation against you which could have seriously affected your entire life wouldn't you be angry? Really really really angry?

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              @baconhound said:

              I would be a no. The accusations didn’t affect me as much as his defense.  

              Come on bacon if somebody made such an awful accusation against you which could have seriously affected your entire life wouldn't you be angry? Really really really angry?

              WSS

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              B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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              @westside-steve said:

              Come on bacon if somebody made such an awful accusation against you which could have seriously affected your entire life wouldn't you be angry? Really really really angry?

              WSS

              Absolutely, and call me old fashion, I’d hope the most logical, reasonable minds in charge of making the hardest of decisions that affect our nation could reign in their emotions and provide a sound explanation.  I don’t need to hear I was top of my class, Captain of the basketball team and did my church service.  If he simply stated over and over, “I did not do what I was accused of” that would’ve been sufficient to me.  I don’t need your “good guy resume” in the “my dad can beat up your dad” tone.

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                I'm pretty certain the dems would then ridicule him for no passion that would be normal for having your excellent name

                and entire life and family completely dragged through stinking mud for democratic sudden litmus test reasons.

                that is what is bs.

                The worst thing in the world is if he was an unfeeling robot in his own defense - the entire claim would flip.

                "he's a liar - any innocent American Dad, Father, Husband and Son would be really upset at their lives being destroyed"

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                  F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                  like the 2016 election (and the upcoming midterms) 

                  Ill still hold to my disbelief in the confirmation until it is officially announced today...

                  51-49 

                  you  guys watch Browns games right?

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    I would like to think the circus ends today with Kavanaugh's confirmation but that won't be the case with many demonrats. They are already talking about holding hearings (if they take back the House) to try to have Kavanaugh impeached. The Soros paid mobs in DC will continue on. Speaking of mobs that is the way many demonrats would like to rule by mob. People need to wake up with what they were trying to do with Kavanaugh. They were on a mission to destroy him by any means possible including doing away with a principle that dates back to Moses such as the presumption of innocence.

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                      like the 2016 election (and the upcoming midterms) 

                      Ill still hold to my disbelief in the confirmation until it is officially announced today...

                      51-49 

                      you  guys watch Browns games right?

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                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      @fairhooker11 said:

                      like the 2016 election (and the upcoming midterms) 

                      Ill still hold to my disbelief in the confirmation until it is officially announced today...

                      51-49 

                      you  guys watch Browns games right?

                      Collins impressed me even as a liberal republican to be a woman of principle and I don't think the mobs surrounding her and attacking her will change her vote. I have doubts with Flake but even if he flips now they would still have the votes. Manchin wants to be re-elected in W. Va. and he isn't going to change his vote. Never say never but I think later this evening it will Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

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                        Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

                        Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

                        It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

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                        @tiamat63 said:

                        Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

                        Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

                        It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

                        What is it about the 2nd 4th or 5th Amendment that you are concerned with having Kavanaugh on the bench? 

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                        • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

                          @fairhooker11 said:

                          like the 2016 election (and the upcoming midterms) 

                          Ill still hold to my disbelief in the confirmation until it is officially announced today...

                          51-49 

                          you  guys watch Browns games right?

                          Collins impressed me even as a liberal republican to be a woman of principle and I don't think the mobs surrounding her and attacking her will change her vote. I have doubts with Flake but even if he flips now they would still have the votes. Manchin wants to be re-elected in W. Va. and he isn't going to change his vote. Never say never but I think later this evening it will Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

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                          F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                          Collins impressed me even as a liberal republican to be a woman of principle and I don't think the mobs surrounding her and attacking her will change her vote. I have doubts with Flake but even if he flips now they would still have the votes. Manchin wants to be re-elected in W. Va. and he isn't going to change his vote. Never say never but I think later this evening it will Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

                          and like you said in the other post - not without repercussions 

                          especially if the mid terms dont bring in more reasonable people 

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                          • F FairHooker11

                            @oldbrownsfan said:

                            Collins impressed me even as a liberal republican to be a woman of principle and I don't think the mobs surrounding her and attacking her will change her vote. I have doubts with Flake but even if he flips now they would still have the votes. Manchin wants to be re-elected in W. Va. and he isn't going to change his vote. Never say never but I think later this evening it will Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

                            and like you said in the other post - not without repercussions 

                            especially if the mid terms dont bring in more reasonable people 

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                            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                            @fairhooker11 said:

                            and like you said in the other post - not without repercussions 

                            especially if the mid terms dont bring in more reasonable people 

                            The devil always overplays his hand. Polls are now showing a big shift towards the republicans. After seeing the shameful antics of the left to destroy Kavanaugh by any means possible I think many people are  now waking up. They couldn't be waking up at a better time. The odds are still against the republicans keeping control of the House but I think they now have a fighting chance.  In the Senate I predict they will pick up three seats and hopefully even more with some dem senators in heavily red states having to defend their no vote against Kavanaugh.

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                                Just wanted to mention that not unlike talking smack before the Steelers game I will personally feel a lot better about this vote once it's finished.

                                I don't trust politicians and especially Democrats.

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                                  If he gets confirmed, I'm going to get Sheet faced and then get some poontang in celebration.

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                                    @tiamat63 said:

                                    Whether or not the accusations are true, some hit looking 15 year old doing questionable Sheet with an 18 year old is a side show compared to the identity politics of both parties.  Right now more so the Shmuckin' liberals.  There exist actual good reasons to not have Kavanaugh pushed through that in no way include these accusations. But they give so little a Sheet about the Constitution that they focus on the potential sexual deviance as their main point. 

                                    Likewise for the party and some here that claim to be "Constitutionalists".   What a bunch of lip service being paid to that word.  Here's a guy, Kavvy, with legitimate claims to have worked on the erosion of the 4th and 5th amendments, on top of his person stance re: The (failed,cowpoop) Drug War, NDAA, Patriot Act and 2nd amendment.  Yet if the dude has an R next to his name, he has to be ight then...? 

                                    It's a god damn soap opera.  All of it. 

                                    What is it about the 2nd 4th or 5th Amendment that you are concerned with having Kavanaugh on the bench? 

                                    WSS

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                                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    What is it about the 2nd 4th or 5th Amendment that you are concerned with having Kavanaugh on the bench? 

                                    WSS

                                    Kavvy outright expresses he beliefs it is more than acceptable to not only violate, but mutilate the 4th amendment protections of citizens because security is greater than natural or Constitutional rights.   (See, NSA)   To quote verbatim  “critical national security need outweighs the impact on privacy.”        His stance on the Patriot Act as both "Constitutional and responsible" is a pretty big red flag.  He also believes the governments meta-data collection on citizens is in line with the 4th.  ?

                                    I guess my issue with the 2nd Amendment stance is, I have no problem with expansion of gun rights - I also support the "common sense" laws on access.    The problem is those screaming common sense don't really mean it like I do.   But I believe Kavanaugh supported the ban on clips greater than 10 rounds.   I feel that isn't inline with an expansion on gun rights.  

                                    I also don't like writings that suggest the President can refuse to turn over evidence in a criminal investigation and also refuse to answer questions.  I don't believe any man should be above the law.  Most certainly the President.   

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                                      Okay then. And I fully agree with him then on privacy vs security. I have no beef with the Patriot Act or collection of metadata. Matter of fact I think the HIPAA laws are a crock of crap. As far as the Second Amendment that ship has long sailed and it's been decided more than once that clamping down on certain types of weapons is perfectly constitutional. It's not a huge leap from Banning a machine gun to requiring all guns be bolt-action single-shot but we will see how that goes.

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                                        Okay then. And I fully agree with him then on privacy vs security. I have no beef with the Patriot Act or collection of metadata. Matter of fact I think the HIPAA laws are a crock of crap. As far as the Second Amendment that ship has long sailed and it's been decided more than once that clamping down on certain types of weapons is perfectly constitutional. It's not a huge leap from Banning a machine gun to requiring all guns be bolt-action single-shot but we will see how that goes.

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                                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                         Matter of fact I think the HIPAA laws are a crock of crap. 

                                        WSS

                                        Yeah because it would be so cool for any old person to have access to my medical history....? 

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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                           Matter of fact I think the HIPAA laws are a crock of crap. 

                                          WSS

                                          Yeah because it would be so cool for any old person to have access to my medical history....? 

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                                          @tiamat63 said:

                                          Yeah because it would be so cool for any old person to have access to my medical history....? 

                                          Pretty much exactly. Anytime you had her medical facility anywhere in the United States or in the world, I want every pharmacist every registered nurse every nurse practitioner every surgeon every physician to know exactly my entire medical history.

                                          I'm assuming you are against mandatory background checks for firearms correct?

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