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  • Orion OrionO Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by Orion
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    I don't think you should start a game out going for 2pt conversions.

    I think you let them come to you.  When, in the course of the game, the #'s make sense...then you try it.  Like going up by 9.

    edit -  or if you have a God-Awful kicker.

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      @ibleedbrown said:

      The article mentions it may be a Haley thing. Maybe having 2 erect nipples all the time makes a guy prone to going for 2? I dunno. 2 points. 2 nipples. 

      I always like to go for 2 when it comes to erect nipples.

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      @the-gipper said:

      I always like to go for 2 when it comes to erect nipples.

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        flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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        Sure, play aggressive and go for two early. Then when the game is on the line and you need a foot to win....meow!  Thanks coach!

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          @comeonman said:

          It’s what the Steelers started doing last year. They veered away from it for some reason. 

          The article mentions it may be a Haley thing. Maybe having 2 erect nipples all the time makes a guy prone to going for 2? I dunno. 2 points. 2 nipples. 

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          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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          I still think the best argument against going 2-crazy is that you show your best short yardage plays.

          @ibleedbrown said:

          The article mentions it may be a Haley thing.

          Makes a lot of sense given the Pittsburgh factor, but the call is still under the HC's control.

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            T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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            Obviously the Big Island cal. I'm pretty sure that is Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea in the foreplayground.?

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            • Tour2maT Tour2ma

              I still think the best argument against going 2-crazy is that you show your best short yardage plays.

              @ibleedbrown said:

              The article mentions it may be a Haley thing.

              Makes a lot of sense given the Pittsburgh factor, but the call is still under the HC's control.

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              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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              @tour2ma said:

              I still think the best argument against going 2-crazy is that you show your best short yardage plays.

              i hated it before, but this a good point that makes the idea even worse

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                Obviously the Big Island cal. I'm pretty sure that is Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea in the foreplayground.?

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @texasag1969 said:

                Obviously the Big Island cal. I'm pretty sure that is Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea in the foreplayground.?

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                  U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by
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                  How many positions in this thread would reflexively change if it was common knowledge that "going for 2" is purely an analytics conclusion?

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                  • OrionO Orion

                    I don't think you should start a game out going for 2pt conversions.

                    I think you let them come to you.  When, in the course of the game, the #'s make sense...then you try it.  Like going up by 9.

                    edit -  or if you have a God-Awful kicker.

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                    Gunz41G Gunz41 wrote on last edited by
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                    @orion said:

                    I don't think you should start a game out going for 2pt conversions.

                    I think you let them come to you.  When, in the course of the game, the #'s make sense...then you try it.  Like going up by 9.

                    edit -  or if you have a God-Awful kicker.

                    You mean get the 2 pt conversation to go up 9?

                    That is the worst time to go for 2. It looks good when you get it to have a 2 score lead, but when you dont get it you leave yourself with a 7 pt lead instead of 8

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                      @orion said:

                      I don't think you should start a game out going for 2pt conversions.

                      I think you let them come to you.  When, in the course of the game, the #'s make sense...then you try it.  Like going up by 9.

                      edit -  or if you have a God-Awful kicker.

                      You mean get the 2 pt conversation to go up 9?

                      That is the worst time to go for 2. It looks good when you get it to have a 2 score lead, but when you dont get it you leave yourself with a 7 pt lead instead of 8

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                      OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                      @gunz41 said:

                      You mean get the 2 pt conversation to go up 9?

                      That is the worst time to go for 2. It looks good when you get it to have a 2 score lead, but when you dont get it you leave yourself with a 7 pt lead instead of 8

                      You don't agree with a single thing I say....which is just the way I like it.  

                      If you score a TD to go up 7, if you go for two and make it, you have a 2 score lead at 9 points.

                      If you fail on the 2pnt conversion then you're still up 7.  The opponent will need to score a TD...and will kick the extra point to tie you.  He MOST PROBABLY will not go for 2 and potentially lose.

                      If you score a TD to go up 7 and kick the extra point....then you're opponent will go for 2 to tie you. 

                      --  So!  Whether you're up 7 or 8, the opponent will try to TIE your score.  Therefore, it's a no-brainer.  If you're up 7 in the 4th quarter...go for 2.

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                      • OrionO Orion

                        @gunz41 said:

                        You mean get the 2 pt conversation to go up 9?

                        That is the worst time to go for 2. It looks good when you get it to have a 2 score lead, but when you dont get it you leave yourself with a 7 pt lead instead of 8

                        You don't agree with a single thing I say....which is just the way I like it.  

                        If you score a TD to go up 7, if you go for two and make it, you have a 2 score lead at 9 points.

                        If you fail on the 2pnt conversion then you're still up 7.  The opponent will need to score a TD...and will kick the extra point to tie you.  He MOST PROBABLY will not go for 2 and potentially lose.

                        If you score a TD to go up 7 and kick the extra point....then you're opponent will go for 2 to tie you. 

                        --  So!  Whether you're up 7 or 8, the opponent will try to TIE your score.  Therefore, it's a no-brainer.  If you're up 7 in the 4th quarter...go for 2.

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                        Gunz41G Gunz41 wrote on last edited by
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                        @orion said:

                        You don't agree with a single thing I say....which is just the way I like it.  

                        If you score a TD to go up 7, if you go for two and make it, you have a 2 score lead at 9 points.

                        If you fail on the 2pnt conversion then you're still up 7.  The opponent will need to score a TD...and will kick the extra point to tie you.  He MOST PROBABLY will not go for 2 and potentially lose.

                        If you score a TD to go up 7 and kick the extra point....then you're opponent will go for 2 to tie you. 

                        --  So!  Whether you're up 7 or 8, the opponent will try to TIE your score.  Therefore, it's a no-brainer.  If you're up 7 in the 4th quarter...go for 2.

                        Absolutely no coach is going to have that mindset, I know I wouldn't.

                        I knew what your reasoning was. But the likelihood of achieving the 2 pt conversion is less than 50%, which works both ways, for your team and the opponent

                        Again, fan view vs coach view

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