How About These Refs & Goodell's League?
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I knew as soon as I saw the no call that there would be complaints. I thought it should have been called as well for IC.
But there wont be any talk about the no call on Cleveland on 3rd for clear PI.
Got to use the same parameters guys.
And guess what, the refs didn't lose the game for the Browns, whaddya know, it isnt RIGGED!!!
Nobody complained about that one believe it or not Gunz. Take a look at the time this thread started with the first post. There was a huge imbalance in penalties if you saw the game. If you want to pretend the officiating was wonderful and balanced - then have at it...
Nobody complained about that one believe it or not Gunz. Take a look at the time this thread started with the first post. There was a huge imbalance in penalties if you saw the game. If you want to pretend the officiating was wonderful and balanced - then have at it...
No, not pretending on that or even saying they were good this week or any other week. And yeah somebody did say something about it.
Now I will be certain to admit I did expect to see A LOT more about that one call.
Just glad they won, maybe wont see as much about officials this week lol
Kardiac Kids 2.0
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Nobody complained about that one believe it or not Gunz. Take a look at the time this thread started with the first post. There was a huge imbalance in penalties if you saw the game. If you want to pretend the officiating was wonderful and balanced - then have at it...
No, not pretending on that or even saying they were good this week or any other week. And yeah somebody did say something about it.
Now I will be certain to admit I did expect to see A LOT more about that one call.
Just glad they won, maybe wont see as much about officials this week lol
Kardiac Kids 2.0
No, not pretending on that or even saying they were good this week or any other week. And yeah somebody did say something about it.
Now I will be certain to admit I did expect to see A LOT more about that one call.
Just glad they won, maybe wont see as much about officials this week lol
Kardiac Kids 2.0
Nobody in this thread said anything about it and Gene Saratore also explained it almost immediately that a hold must occur before the ball is in the air. Didn't happen. That one they got right. They got a lot right but they weren't nearly as ambitious to call the same penalties the other way.
I'm glad they won too.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
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No, not pretending on that or even saying they were good this week or any other week. And yeah somebody did say something about it.
Now I will be certain to admit I did expect to see A LOT more about that one call.
Just glad they won, maybe wont see as much about officials this week lol
Kardiac Kids 2.0
Nobody in this thread said anything about it and Gene Saratore also explained it almost immediately that a hold must occur before the ball is in the air. Didn't happen. That one they got right. They got a lot right but they weren't nearly as ambitious to call the same penalties the other way.
I'm glad they won too.
Nobody in this thread said anything about it and Gene Saratore also explained it almost immediately that a hold must occur before the ball is in the air. Didn't happen. That one they got right. They got a lot right but they weren't nearly as ambitious to call the same penalties the other way.
I'm glad they won too.
Yes they did. See quote below. Unless you are talking about a different play???
When you tackle the receiver of course it’s uncatchable.
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I want someone to tell me this isn't rigged. Seriously, I dare you with a straight face to tell me that.
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Overtime #3 here we come. Congrats NFL - this is what you want to do this franchise.
Nobody can overcome 10 penalties to 1 against a team like Baltimore so some of ticky tacky bs calls on us made it tough to beat 11 plus the zebras.
BUT Cleveland did it anyway!!!!!!!!! ?
Overtime #3 here we come. Congrats NFL - this is what you want to do this franchise.
Nobody can overcome 10 penalties to 1 against a team like Baltimore so some of ticky tacky bs calls on us made it tough to beat 11 plus the zebras.
BUT Cleveland did it anyway!!!!!!!!! ?
Oh, and let's ignore the couple of false starts the tackle had lining up against Garrett. and Flacco isn't in the grasp, and no intentional grounding when their receiver isn't within 10 yards from the pass, and it doesn't get past the los.
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It's not rigged.
Look, we won. But if a WR getting clean hit off his feet isnt a PI theres a fundamental problem. To suggest a WR cant make up 25 or so yards in the two seconds after he got leveled is a joke.
When this nonsense happens to your team week in and week out, objectively, its supicisous. Do I think the Goddell is giving a reach around to replay ton impact calls? No. But how many weeks are you gonna see what keeps happening and wonder why?
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It's not rigged.
Look, we won. But if a WR getting clean hit off his feet isnt a PI theres a fundamental problem. To suggest a WR cant make up 25 or so yards in the two seconds after he got leveled is a joke.
When this nonsense happens to your team week in and week out, objectively, its supicisous. Do I think the Goddell is giving a reach around to replay ton impact calls? No. But how many weeks are you gonna see what keeps happening and wonder why?
Look, we won. But if a WR getting clean hit off his feet isnt a PI theres a fundamental problem. To suggest a WR cant make up 25 or so yards in the two seconds after he got leveled is a joke.
When this nonsense happens to your team week in and week out, objectively, its supicisous. Do I think the Goddell is giving a reach around to replay ton impact calls? No. But how many weeks are you gonna see what keeps happening and wonder why?
It's still not rigged.
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Look, we won. But if a WR getting clean hit off his feet isnt a PI theres a fundamental problem. To suggest a WR cant make up 25 or so yards in the two seconds after he got leveled is a joke.
When this nonsense happens to your team week in and week out, objectively, its supicisous. Do I think the Goddell is giving a reach around to replay ton impact calls? No. But how many weeks are you gonna see what keeps happening and wonder why?
It's still not rigged.
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Look, we won. But if a WR getting clean hit off his feet isnt a PI theres a fundamental problem. To suggest a WR cant make up 25 or so yards in the two seconds after he got leveled is a joke.
When this nonsense happens to your team week in and week out, objectively, its supicisous. Do I think the Goddell is giving a reach around to replay ton impact calls? No. But how many weeks are you gonna see what keeps happening and wonder why?
It's still not rigged.
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I'll let you believe in your mantra Mark. Rigged, no. totally incompetent- in several instances yes. We not only had to beat the Ravens but the Refs on top of it.
If it was rigged, the large TV markets would always win. Are they making bad calls, of course but the games are not rigged.
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I'll let you believe in your mantra Mark. Rigged, no. totally incompetent- in several instances yes. We not only had to beat the Ravens but the Refs on top of it.
If it was rigged, the large TV markets would always win. Are they making bad calls, of course but the games are not rigged.
If it was rigged, the large TV markets would always win. Are they making bad calls, of course but the games are not rigged.
Here's the deal Mark. when we start winning- we start getting the better Reffing crews. That's a fact. somebody posted somewhere the Ref Crew was 1-8 when they had the Browns- Raiders game. we might ave sucked, but we also got no breaks on the calls.
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what happened to "hitting a defenseless receiver?"
he clocked him, and they wouldn't call pi because the ball was uncatchable ...
seriously?
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I wouldn't say its rigged, its almost like there is some bias against Browns because of how we have played so long. And it usually happens to the Browns in key situations. There is laundry list of them going on for years. When I watch other games, I see bad calls too, but nothing that matches watching a Browns game. Its uncanny. The league has already admitted to screwed up two calls this year, wouldn't surprise me if the admit to more after today.
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It's not rigged.
Look, we won. But if a WR getting clean hit off his feet isnt a PI theres a fundamental problem. To suggest a WR cant make up 25 or so yards in the two seconds after he got leveled is a joke.
When this nonsense happens to your team week in and week out, objectively, its supicisous. Do I think the Goddell is giving a reach around to replay ton impact calls? No. But how many weeks are you gonna see what keeps happening and wonder why?
Look, we won. But if a WR getting clean hit off his feet isnt a PI theres a fundamental problem. To suggest a WR cant make up 25 or so yards in the two seconds after he got leveled is a joke.
When this nonsense happens to your team week in and week out, objectively, its supicisous. Do I think the Goddell is giving a reach around to replay ton impact calls? No. But how many weeks are you gonna see what keeps happening and wonder why?
^^^could not be said any better***plus 100%.. defenders only look was to take out the receiver..squarely high in the chest plate..defender had no clue where the ball was at..
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I've been watching tons LESS of the NFL the past few years. Why? Yellow Sheet littering the field every other play. Makes watching paint dry exciting again.
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I wouldn't say its rigged, its almost like there is some bias against Browns because of how we have played so long. And it usually happens to the Browns in key situations. There is laundry list of them going on for years. When I watch other games, I see bad calls too, but nothing that matches watching a Browns game. Its uncanny. The league has already admitted to screwed up two calls this year, wouldn't surprise me if the admit to more after today.
I wouldn't say its rigged, its almost like there is some bias against Browns because of how we have played so long. And it usually happens to the Browns in key situations. There is laundry list of them going on for years. When I watch other games, I see bad calls too, but nothing that matches watching a Browns game. Its uncanny. The league has already admitted to screwed up two calls this year, wouldn't surprise me if the admit to more after today.
Precisely! Bias of there's a whole lotta "it's only Cleveland so who cares" perspective among the flag happy.
Occasional bad calls - we're not having this conversation. Trend? Here we are - what it is....
For those that didn't GET it - this thread got started during the game only 1 team seemed to be getting flagged consistently. It seemed like when Baltimore got flagged - we made the first down or a kick anyway.
Did anyone have to look to hard to see the guy across from Garrett false starting? Did anyone listen to Dieken on the radio when our RT got flagged for a phantom hold? That's not a guy that likes to blame officials for the most part. Again, why the sudden fuss in back to back week? A TREND pulling the game away from the Browns and their chance to win a close game hanging on 1 call or 1 play.
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I've been watching tons LESS of the NFL the past few years. Why? Yellow Sheet littering the field every other play. Makes watching paint dry exciting again.
I've been watching tons LESS of the NFL the past few years. Why? Yellow Sheet littering the field every other play. Makes watching paint dry exciting again.
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I'll let you believe in your mantra Mark. Rigged, no. totally incompetent- in several instances yes. We not only had to beat the Ravens but the Refs on top of it.
If it was rigged, the large TV markets would always win. Are they making bad calls, of course but the games are not rigged.
If it was rigged, the large TV markets would always win. Are they making bad calls, of course but the games are not rigged.
You mean like the Raiders current market that also has to appeal to a Vegas market (after their brand new NHL team made the Stanley Cup Finals in their 1st year as a franchise)? I'd say that's a pretty high barometer set - so, is a league needing to please 2 different states/markets today okay with an 0-3 Raiders team losing to 1 more episode of "it's only Cleveland?" Telling us they got the Carr fumble they didn't allow wrong took the game winning points off the board. Did Haslam's church mouse quiet all week change how our home crowd and many fans felt about the officiating THIS WEEK?
This week the Raiders played against the LA market so they didn't get nearly as many favors.
I don't feel like I've ever complained about the officiating the way this year has given me countless reasons to do so...
Just out of curiosity, how many small markets have won SBs beside GB?
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