Fire the Kicker
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When new WR coach came in, Al Saunders was reported as moved to booth. quickier calls for challenge flags & being right are also getting better imo..using that last TO to float match-ups would have been my call also and am not famous or Amos..
Al is on the bench, I always see him congratulating players, but I'm sure we have a few "eye in the sky" advisers.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Al is on the bench, I always see him congratulating players, but I'm sure we have a few "eye in the sky" advisers.
Zombo
don't ya luv the word 'reported'..cus i've seen Al doing the same as you..maybe he build a guy they trust? upstairs? then was sent to go give hugs at 80 years old? cheers to winning Monday!
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This thread didn't age well
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The lead announcer almost made it thru the game and OT without saying something stupid and/or ignorant... and then came:
"It went in"
SMH...
On the other hand Lofton wasn't too bad in his analyst role aside from a couple rules interpretations.
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The lead announcer almost made it thru the game and OT without saying something stupid and/or ignorant... and then came:
"It went in"
SMH...
On the other hand Lofton wasn't too bad in his analyst role aside from a couple rules interpretations.
The lead announcer almost made it thru the game and OT without saying something stupid and/or ignorant... and then came:
"It went in"
SMH...
On the other hand Lofton wasn't too bad in his analyst role aside from a couple rules interpretations.
Maybe he just confused which sport he was covering:
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The lead announcer almost made it thru the game and OT without saying something stupid and/or ignorant... and then came:
"It went in"
SMH...
On the other hand Lofton wasn't too bad in his analyst role aside from a couple rules interpretations.
The lead announcer almost made it thru the game and OT without saying something stupid and/or ignorant... and then came:"It went in"
SMH...
On the other hand Lofton wasn't too bad in his analyst role aside from a couple rules interpretations.
running 2nd look..go to just before the ward block. i hear sounds of dennis green "if ya want to crown him lord kicking king tucker,than crown him"?
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I can't get a good angle on the ball, but my soccer instinct tells me that ball must have been tipped, for the next reason:
1. The speed is not constant. Footballs lose speed when reaching the bars, but they don't reach them that slow after being kicked that fast (if it had left the grass slowly, we could have seen that there was no tip).
2. The angle it makes it's very weird. Looking at the video slowly (0:22) I'd say that part of the blame goes to the blocking unit, but also to the kicker. The angle he kicks it with I'd say it's a bit low, and that's why it gets tipped and then starts falling to cross the crossboard by a few inches. There's not that much distance to lose that much height at the speed he kicks it with.
The good news for me is that watching the his kicking motion, he is really a soccer player. Hopefully he'll get to know that you have to kick it with a higher angle so you avoid getting tipped not losing any distance. The ball I'd say makes a 40º angle with the ground when leaving it and if I'm not mistaken 45º is more efficient and would have avoided it being tipped.
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I can't get a good angle on the ball, but my soccer instinct tells me that ball must have been tipped, for the next reason:
1. The speed is not constant. Footballs lose speed when reaching the bars, but they don't reach them that slow after being kicked that fast (if it had left the grass slowly, we could have seen that there was no tip).
2. The angle it makes it's very weird. Looking at the video slowly (0:22) I'd say that part of the blame goes to the blocking unit, but also to the kicker. The angle he kicks it with I'd say it's a bit low, and that's why it gets tipped and then starts falling to cross the crossboard by a few inches. There's not that much distance to lose that much height at the speed he kicks it with.
The good news for me is that watching the his kicking motion, he is really a soccer player. Hopefully he'll get to know that you have to kick it with a higher angle so you avoid getting tipped not losing any distance. The ball I'd say makes a 40º angle with the ground when leaving it and if I'm not mistaken 45º is more efficient and would have avoided it being tipped.
I can't get a good angle on the ball, but my soccer instinct tells me that ball must have been tipped, for the next reason:
1. The speed is not constant. Footballs lose speed when reaching the bars, but they don't reach them that slow after being kicked that fast (if it had left the grass slowly, we could have seen that there was no tip).
2. The angle it makes it's very weird. Looking at the video slowly (0:22) I'd say that part of the blame goes to the blocking unit, but also to the kicker. The angle he kicks it with I'd say it's a bit low, and that's why it gets tipped and then starts falling to cross the crossboard by a few inches. There's not that much distance to lose that much height at the speed he kicks it with.
The good news for me is that watching the his kicking motion, he is really a soccer player. Hopefully he'll get to know that you have to kick it with a higher angle so you avoid getting tipped not losing any distance. The ball I'd say makes a 40º angle with the ground when leaving it and if I'm not mistaken 45º is more efficient and would have avoided it being tipped.
Wrong blocker. That was the outside guy. The inside guy got a hand on it without laying out.
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Who cares, it went thru, we got 3 and won.
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I can't get a good angle on the ball, but my soccer instinct tells me that ball must have been tipped, for the next reason:
1. The speed is not constant. Footballs lose speed when reaching the bars, but they don't reach them that slow after being kicked that fast (if it had left the grass slowly, we could have seen that there was no tip).
2. The angle it makes it's very weird. Looking at the video slowly (0:22) I'd say that part of the blame goes to the blocking unit, but also to the kicker. The angle he kicks it with I'd say it's a bit low, and that's why it gets tipped and then starts falling to cross the crossboard by a few inches. There's not that much distance to lose that much height at the speed he kicks it with.
The good news for me is that watching the his kicking motion, he is really a soccer player. Hopefully he'll get to know that you have to kick it with a higher angle so you avoid getting tipped not losing any distance. The ball I'd say makes a 40º angle with the ground when leaving it and if I'm not mistaken 45º is more efficient and would have avoided it being tipped.
Wrong blocker. That was the outside guy. The inside guy got a hand on it without laying out.
Wrong blocker. That was the outside guy. The inside guy got a hand on it without laying out.
I know it's not that guy in the frame I posted the one that tips the FG. I'm just pointing at the shooting angle on that frame.
If you watch the video, you can see how the one that gets inside penetration enters the shot and falls, and looking at the "height" he enters the shot, you can see why the ball was tipped.
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Wrong blocker. That was the outside guy. The inside guy got a hand on it without laying out.
I know it's not that guy in the frame I posted the one that tips the FG. I'm just pointing at the shooting angle on that frame.
If you watch the video, you can see how the one that gets inside penetration enters the shot and falls, and looking at the "height" he enters the shot, you can see why the ball was tipped.
I know it's not that guy in the frame I posted the one that tips the FG. I'm just pointing at the shooting angle on that frame.
If you watch the video, you can see how the one that gets inside penetration enters the shot and falls, and looking at the "height" he enters the shot, you can see why the ball was tipped.
So we know it was definitely partially blocked, but do we know how to fix the problem? I can't imagine the outrage that would've followed if the block prevented the FG from being good.
Maybe someone who knows more about FG protection can help me out. I read in an article that our backup TE was responsible for blocking two people on the game winner. The author intimated that it was a special teams coaching mistake having our TE matched up on two people by himself. Is this normal? Or did we have a protection breakdown? Cuz let me tell you, things would've gotten UGLY if they blocked that kick from going through, lol. Also, when the Steelers potential winning kick was blocked, it appeared as if three Steelers ran over Bitonio to get the ball. Why not just rush three players at one blocker every time? So many NFL games come down to just a few points. Our special teams are such garbage, I just hope they don't cause us to lose any other games in horrific, heartbreaking fashion. Lol.
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I know it's not that guy in the frame I posted the one that tips the FG. I'm just pointing at the shooting angle on that frame.
If you watch the video, you can see how the one that gets inside penetration enters the shot and falls, and looking at the "height" he enters the shot, you can see why the ball was tipped.
So we know it was definitely partially blocked, but do we know how to fix the problem? I can't imagine the outrage that would've followed if the block prevented the FG from being good.
Maybe someone who knows more about FG protection can help me out. I read in an article that our backup TE was responsible for blocking two people on the game winner. The author intimated that it was a special teams coaching mistake having our TE matched up on two people by himself. Is this normal? Or did we have a protection breakdown? Cuz let me tell you, things would've gotten UGLY if they blocked that kick from going through, lol. Also, when the Steelers potential winning kick was blocked, it appeared as if three Steelers ran over Bitonio to get the ball. Why not just rush three players at one blocker every time? So many NFL games come down to just a few points. Our special teams are such garbage, I just hope they don't cause us to lose any other games in horrific, heartbreaking fashion. Lol.
So we know it was definitely partially blocked, but do we know how to fix the problem? I can't imagine the outrage that would've followed if the block prevented the FG from being good.
Maybe someone who knows more about FG protection can help me out. I read in an article that our backup TE was responsible for blocking two people on the game winner. The author intimated that it was a special teams coaching mistake having our TE matched up on two people by himself. Is this normal? Or did we have a protection breakdown? Cuz let me tell you, things would've gotten UGLY if they blocked that kick from going through, lol. Also, when the Steelers potential winning kick was blocked, it appeared as if three Steelers ran over Bitonio to get the ball. Why not just rush three players at one blocker every time? So many NFL games come down to just a few points. Our special teams are such garbage, I just hope they don't cause us to lose any other games in horrific, heartbreaking fashion. Lol.
That's all on coaching. Good ST = good coach.
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So we know it was definitely partially blocked, but do we know how to fix the problem? I can't imagine the outrage that would've followed if the block prevented the FG from being good.
Maybe someone who knows more about FG protection can help me out. I read in an article that our backup TE was responsible for blocking two people on the game winner. The author intimated that it was a special teams coaching mistake having our TE matched up on two people by himself. Is this normal? Or did we have a protection breakdown? Cuz let me tell you, things would've gotten UGLY if they blocked that kick from going through, lol. Also, when the Steelers potential winning kick was blocked, it appeared as if three Steelers ran over Bitonio to get the ball. Why not just rush three players at one blocker every time? So many NFL games come down to just a few points. Our special teams are such garbage, I just hope they don't cause us to lose any other games in horrific, heartbreaking fashion. Lol.
That's all on coaching. Good ST = good coach.
That's all on coaching. Good ST = good coach.
I'd add coaching technique..Denzel Ward's arms are locked attacking kicking zone.Tony Jefferson shot through so quick, he forget to bring his arms up with him only leaving a swipe or punch at the ball that causes mostly tips.
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I can't get a good angle on the ball, but my soccer instinct tells me that ball must have been tipped, for the next reason:
1. The speed is not constant. Footballs lose speed when reaching the bars, but they don't reach them that slow after being kicked that fast (if it had left the grass slowly, we could have seen that there was no tip).
2. The angle it makes it's very weird. Looking at the video slowly (0:22) I'd say that part of the blame goes to the blocking unit, but also to the kicker. The angle he kicks it with I'd say it's a bit low, and that's why it gets tipped and then starts falling to cross the crossboard by a few inches. There's not that much distance to lose that much height at the speed he kicks it with.
The good news for me is that watching the his kicking motion, he is really a soccer player. Hopefully he'll get to know that you have to kick it with a higher angle so you avoid getting tipped not losing any distance. The ball I'd say makes a 40º angle with the ground when leaving it and if I'm not mistaken 45º is more efficient and would have avoided it being tipped.
Hopefully he'll get to know that you have to kick it with a higher angle so you avoid getting tipped not losing any distance.
He hit the ball a tad too high, i.e., too much towards its middle.
He'll be fine...
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I know it's not that guy in the frame I posted the one that tips the FG. I'm just pointing at the shooting angle on that frame.
If you watch the video, you can see how the one that gets inside penetration enters the shot and falls, and looking at the "height" he enters the shot, you can see why the ball was tipped.
So we know it was definitely partially blocked, but do we know how to fix the problem? I can't imagine the outrage that would've followed if the block prevented the FG from being good.
Maybe someone who knows more about FG protection can help me out. I read in an article that our backup TE was responsible for blocking two people on the game winner. The author intimated that it was a special teams coaching mistake having our TE matched up on two people by himself. Is this normal? Or did we have a protection breakdown? Cuz let me tell you, things would've gotten UGLY if they blocked that kick from going through, lol. Also, when the Steelers potential winning kick was blocked, it appeared as if three Steelers ran over Bitonio to get the ball. Why not just rush three players at one blocker every time? So many NFL games come down to just a few points. Our special teams are such garbage, I just hope they don't cause us to lose any other games in horrific, heartbreaking fashion. Lol.
Is this normal? Or did we have a protection breakdown?
Simple math... 11 rushers in an all-out block effort vs. 9 blockers... means at least one player on the end of the line (usually the end towards the middle of the field) has two rushers to "handle".
His first responsibility is to disrupt the inside man, but to do so as wide as possible to make the outside man's path longer.
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I know it's not that guy in the frame I posted the one that tips the FG. I'm just pointing at the shooting angle on that frame.
If you watch the video, you can see how the one that gets inside penetration enters the shot and falls, and looking at the "height" he enters the shot, you can see why the ball was tipped.
So we know it was definitely partially blocked, but do we know how to fix the problem? I can't imagine the outrage that would've followed if the block prevented the FG from being good.
Maybe someone who knows more about FG protection can help me out. I read in an article that our backup TE was responsible for blocking two people on the game winner. The author intimated that it was a special teams coaching mistake having our TE matched up on two people by himself. Is this normal? Or did we have a protection breakdown? Cuz let me tell you, things would've gotten UGLY if they blocked that kick from going through, lol. Also, when the Steelers potential winning kick was blocked, it appeared as if three Steelers ran over Bitonio to get the ball. Why not just rush three players at one blocker every time? So many NFL games come down to just a few points. Our special teams are such garbage, I just hope they don't cause us to lose any other games in horrific, heartbreaking fashion. Lol.
So we know it was definitely partially blocked, but do we know how to fix the problem? I can't imagine the outrage that would've followed if the block prevented the FG from being good.
Maybe someone who knows more about FG protection can help me out. I read in an article that our backup TE was responsible for blocking two people on the game winner. The author intimated that it was a special teams coaching mistake having our TE matched up on two people by himself. Is this normal? Or did we have a protection breakdown? Cuz let me tell you, things would've gotten UGLY if they blocked that kick from going through, lol. Also, when the Steelers potential winning kick was blocked, it appeared as if three Steelers ran over Bitonio to get the ball. Why not just rush three players at one blocker every time? So many NFL games come down to just a few points. Our special teams are such garbage, I just hope they don't cause us to lose any other games in horrific, heartbreaking fashion. Lol.
We went through this already- take a look at the left side of our FG unit, and the problems is obvious.... two of our guys, and four of theirs...
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I stuck gamepass on earlier purely to have a look at the kick I definitely heard a noise when the ball went near the Ravens rusher
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Photo show Fells reaching for the edge man... who has stumbled and is going to the turf... while Corbett is getting stood up and moved inside.
The combo created the rush lane for the Raven that got a hand on the kick.
And speaking of getting stood up... Hubbard got freakin' owned. LAC's advanced scouts are going to note that.
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