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  • just watched tape of oliver.....holy sheet. Houston uses him primarily as a DT cause #collegegame.    He's the prototype 5T/SDE. Ic more wstt than sapp in that guy. Thats my pick if he's there or we can trade up. Bosa cost too much fir a trade up....but maybe we can land him. Fuk his speed is unreal.....his stats have been nerfed playing on the inside...promise. That dude will be fire coming off inbetween guard/tackle or outside tackle

  • just watched tape of oliver.....holy sheet. Houston uses him primarily as a DT cause #collegegame.    He's the prototype 5T/SDE. Ic more wstt than sapp in that guy. Thats my pick if he's there or we can trade up. Bosa cost too much fir a trade up....but maybe we can land him. Fuk his speed is unreal.....his stats have been nerfed playing on the inside...promise. That dude will be fire coming off inbetween guard/tackle or outside tackle

    @clevfan4life said:

    just watched tape of oliver.....holy sheet. Houston uses him primarily as a DT cause #collegegame.    He's the prototype 5T/SDE. Ic more wstt than sapp in that guy. Thats my pick if he's there or we can trade up. Bosa cost too much fir a trade up....but maybe we can land him. Fuk his speed is unreal.....his stats have been nerfed playing on the inside...promise. That dude will be fire coming off inbetween guard/tackle or outside tackle

    Oliver and Bosa are going to be rated very similarly. Both near the top.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    just watched tape of oliver.....holy sheet. Houston uses him primarily as a DT cause #collegegame.    He's the prototype 5T/SDE. Ic more wstt than sapp in that guy. Thats my pick if he's there or we can trade up. Bosa cost too much fir a trade up....but maybe we can land him. Fuk his speed is unreal.....his stats have been nerfed playing on the inside...promise. That dude will be fire coming off inbetween guard/tackle or outside tackle

    Oliver and Bosa are going to be rated very similarly. Both near the top.

    @mld-woody said:

    Oliver and Bosa are going to be rated very similarly. Both near the top.

    Different positions aren’t they ? I thought Oliver was more defensive tackle inside presence where as Bosa was a defensive end/linebacker with pressure from the outside

  • bosa will not be a lb'er. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    Oliver and Bosa are going to be rated very similarly. Both near the top.

    Different positions aren’t they ? I thought Oliver was more defensive tackle inside presence where as Bosa was a defensive end/linebacker with pressure from the outside

    @the-gipper said:

    Different positions aren’t they ? I thought Oliver was more defensive tackle inside presence where as Bosa was a defensive end/linebacker with pressure from the outside

    Correct. Except the Boss at LB part. 

    That comment was more around the idea that we couldn't possibly get Bosa but Oliver might fall to us. They're both going near the top and both will have similar costs, IMO

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yup... Texans are the wife's team.

    JJ is flashing his old from to be sure, but Clowney has come on very strong and the two of them as books ends (most of the time)??? Fuggetaboudit...

    And they are missing a couple of their big folk... e.g., Convington.

    Really looking forward to our meeting on Dec 2nd... Ward on Hopkins should be an epic matchup.

    Hopkins got me 49 points in FF with that last reception. Now Drew Brees needs to come through with a couple of TD passes tonight for me to take the $40 prize for this week. Don't give it to those damn runners Drew! Throw it to 'em is fine though.  LOL!?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Hopkins got me 49 points in FF with that last reception. Now Drew Brees needs to come through with a couple of TD passes tonight for me to take the $40 prize for this week. Don't give it to those damn runners Drew! Throw it to 'em is fine though.  LOL!?

    Thank you Drew.?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Different positions aren’t they ? I thought Oliver was more defensive tackle inside presence where as Bosa was a defensive end/linebacker with pressure from the outside

    Correct. Except the Boss at LB part. 

    That comment was more around the idea that we couldn't possibly get Bosa but Oliver might fall to us. They're both going near the top and both will have similar costs, IMO

    @mld-woody said:

    Correct. Except the Boss at LB part. 

    That comment was more around the idea that we couldn't possibly get Bosa but Oliver might fall to us. They're both going near the top and both will have similar costs, IMO

    Well....the cost is set under  the rookie pay scale, and who cares about that except the guy who has to write the check. 

    The actual "cost" to the Browns would be:  if they expect to get either of those guys, they would have to like not win any more games this year.  I think that Bosa could lose some ground, some draft positioning due to his injury and being out all year.  But would he fall into the middle of the first round?  I would doubt that.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Correct. Except the Boss at LB part. 

    That comment was more around the idea that we couldn't possibly get Bosa but Oliver might fall to us. They're both going near the top and both will have similar costs, IMO

    Well....the cost is set under  the rookie pay scale, and who cares about that except the guy who has to write the check. 

    The actual "cost" to the Browns would be:  if they expect to get either of those guys, they would have to like not win any more games this year.  I think that Bosa could lose some ground, some draft positioning due to his injury and being out all year.  But would he fall into the middle of the first round?  I would doubt that.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....the cost is set under  the rookie pay scale, and who cares about that except the guy who has to write the check. 

    The actual "cost" to the Browns would be:  if they expect to get either of those guys, they would have to like not win any more games this year.  I think that Bosa could lose some ground, some draft positioning due to his injury and being out all year.  But would he fall into the middle of the first round?  I would doubt that.

    No, I mean cost as in draft capital. What it would take to move up to get them. 

    The only way Bosa falls anywhere near the middle of the first is if his injury gets flagged at the combine or something. Even if he doesn't play another snap for OSU he'll be higher than that. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well....the cost is set under  the rookie pay scale, and who cares about that except the guy who has to write the check. 

    The actual "cost" to the Browns would be:  if they expect to get either of those guys, they would have to like not win any more games this year.  I think that Bosa could lose some ground, some draft positioning due to his injury and being out all year.  But would he fall into the middle of the first round?  I would doubt that.

    No, I mean cost as in draft capital. What it would take to move up to get them. 

    The only way Bosa falls anywhere near the middle of the first is if his injury gets flagged at the combine or something. Even if he doesn't play another snap for OSU he'll be higher than that. 

    @mld-woody said:

    No, I mean cost as in draft capital. What it would take to move up to get them. 

    The only way Bosa falls anywhere near the middle of the first is if his injury gets flagged at the combine or something. Even if he doesn't play another snap for OSU he'll be higher than that. 

    OK, I was not thinking in terms of  trading up.   But I do think that not playing would have to cost him some draft positioning.  I mean.....he was considered almost a consensus #1 overall pick.   If he drops down to anywhere below that I think his injury will have cost him.  If he were to go lower than #3  it would be unquestionable that it did. 

  • Good news for us is joey won't be playing when we play the chargers. he's out till November. I'd give the chargers Og and our 1st rounder for Joey. Now that we have Myles Joey might reconsider playing for clev. There's rumors he's not terribly happy playing in SD. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    No, I mean cost as in draft capital. What it would take to move up to get them. 

    The only way Bosa falls anywhere near the middle of the first is if his injury gets flagged at the combine or something. Even if he doesn't play another snap for OSU he'll be higher than that. 

    OK, I was not thinking in terms of  trading up.   But I do think that not playing would have to cost him some draft positioning.  I mean.....he was considered almost a consensus #1 overall pick.   If he drops down to anywhere below that I think his injury will have cost him.  If he were to go lower than #3  it would be unquestionable that it did. 

    @the-gipper said:

    OK, I was not thinking in terms of  trading up.   But I do think that not playing would have to cost him some draft positioning.  I mean.....he was considered almost a consensus #1 overall pick.   If he drops down to anywhere below that I think his injury will have cost him.  If he were to go lower than #3  it would be unquestionable that it did. 

    No, no it wouldn't. But we've gone over this before so I'll leave it be.

  • @the-gipper said:

    OK, I was not thinking in terms of  trading up.   But I do think that not playing would have to cost him some draft positioning.  I mean.....he was considered almost a consensus #1 overall pick.   If he drops down to anywhere below that I think his injury will have cost him.  If he were to go lower than #3  it would be unquestionable that it did. 

    No, no it wouldn't. But we've gone over this before so I'll leave it be.

    @mld-woody said:

    No, no it wouldn't. But we've gone over this before so I'll leave it be.

    You don't know that.  You have no clue how/if it will/would affect his  draft positioning.

  • @mld-woody said:

    I could of also said "all of the guys from Clemson" lol. I'm just most knowledgeable about our guys right now

    I'd take Houston's Ed Oliver too.... Aaron Donald Part II... 

    Nick Bosa's stock could drop if teams worry about re-injury. Not everyday you hear of a player tearing his "core"...

    And it may be circumstantial, but Joey's inclination to be injured doesn't help Nick's case.

    But on ability? Top three...

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'd take Houston's Ed Oliver too.... Aaron Donald Part II... 

    Yup... The kid is amazing.

  • And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

  • And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

    @mld-woody said:

    And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

    damn. ah well

  • And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

    @mld-woody said:

    And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

    I wonder how this will be taken...

  • @mld-woody said:

    And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

    I wonder how this will be taken...

    @tour2ma said:

    I wonder how this will be taken...

    not hard math, he watched his brother get a ~20m signing bonus....

  • @mld-woody said:

    And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

    I wonder how this will be taken...

    @tour2ma said:

    I wonder how this will be taken...

    Well Clowney played his last year just trying to avoid injury so we saw how that worked out.

  • I wonder how long it will be for a scholarship that has a contract attached for a ball player to honor?

  • And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

    @mld-woody said:

    And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

    His injury was going to prevent him from playing this year anyway so this is probably the prudent responsible move for his futureHis injury was going to prevent him from playing this year anyway so this is probably the prudent responsible move for his future