What Does The Bible Say About False Accusers And #BelieveWomen?
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First of all if we agree that it's not your body so you have no rights what's the weather then should we not eliminate the practice of Child Support?
Second if it's your body and your choice why should it be illegal to abort a healthy fetus in the ninth month?
WSS
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7 illogical things pro-choicers said
https://www.liveaction.org/news/9-illogical-comebacks-pro-choicers/
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What does the Bible say about people living inside of a whale?
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What does the Bible say about people living inside of a whale?
What does the Bible say about people living inside of a whale?
It would take a miracle for a man to live for three days inside a whale.
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What does the Bible say about people living inside of a whale?
It would take a miracle for a man to live for three days inside a whale.
It would take a miracle for a man to live for three days inside a whale.
Peculiar that all miracles halted after the invention of the camera.
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It would take a miracle for a man to live for three days inside a whale.
Peculiar that all miracles halted after the invention of the camera.
Peculiar that all miracles halted after the invention of the camera.
7 Modern Miracles That Science Can't Explain
God is still in the business of miracles.
http://www.beliefnet.com/inspiration/7-modern-miracles-that-science-cant-explain.aspx
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Intellectual honesty would be doing yourself and your religion a favor and calling your belief in it what it really is: faith, not facts. Intellectual honesty, when it comes to the atheist argument is that while one cannot conclusively disprove the existence of God/gods, there is also not enough reliable, tangible evidence to demonstrate his existence in the first place in order to prove the validity of a religion's tenets.
Objective facts are quantifiable, testable, and - most importantly - able to be demonstrated to be false when tested and better evidence presents itself. Christianity, and all supernatural religions in general, are unable to meet these basic requirements; that is the essence of faith itself. Faith is the continuing belief in God and his associated dogmas in spite of the lack of evidence and objective facts to support the existence of said God. To call your religious beliefs "facts" and not faith is to belittle your own position.
And the Bible doesn't? Did you honestly think this was a justifiable retort to Cleve's point? The Torah is littered with rape, murder of men, women and children, torture, genocide, etc - all perpetrated by God's chosen people, in the name of God, and at the very least, observed indifferently or turned a blind eye to by God, and at its most sinister, actively endorsed and commanded by God himself. To use the argument that Islamic terrorists have scriptures in the koran they use to justify their acts of violence while being cognitively dissonant about the atrocities endorsed your own religious texts demonstrates a lack of understanding on the part of you and the other faithful about what is actually written in the Bible.
And, to nip the your whole "Jesus and the New Testament isnt the Jews and Old Testament" feint that inevitably comes from arguments such as these in the bud before it's even mentioned, lets not forget that Jesus himself endorsed the Old Testament teachings and believed that the actions written in it were true and divinely inspired. And seeing as how Jesus is the Son of God, is God, or is a part of God (Christians can't even agree to which definition is true among themselves - another testament to the human derivation of religion), that means at the very least, he acknowledged God's and the Israelites actions in the Old Testament to be factually accurate and divinely ordained; at the other end, Jesus himself is God or a part of the very God who performed and commanded the rape of women, genocide, etc. And this is the person/deity by which we're supposed to square our moral beliefs? Nonsense. If you want to go down this road and explore these things and claim that your religious morals are superior to those of other religions or the non-religious, I am here for you.
To claim that the Judeo-Christian doctrine is the pinnacle of moral belief is to demonstrate an abject lack of understanding of what is actually written in the Bible and the implications that follow it. And to claim that these teachings are the only thing that prevents the religious from committing immoral actions such as rape and murder says more about the moral standing of you and the other religious than it does to me.
You are free to believe or not believe. You can believe that out of nothing somehow came the universe and all that we see. I won't waste my time arguing with you. I choose to believe and faith does play a huge part of a believer. Heb 11:3 through FAITH we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God so that things which are SEEN were created by things NOT SEEN. As much as you try to hate on Jesus His teachings were the opposite of your hate. Here is a quote from the Old Testament that is one of my favorites: And if it seem evil for you to serve the Lord choose you this day whom you will serve but as for me and my house we will serve the Lord. On May 5 1982 at a little past 11:00 PM I turned to the Lord and made Jesus my Lord and Savior. It was the best decision I ever made . Not only the blessings I have gotten in this life but knowing my Lord and Savior has created a place for believers and physical death is not the end that when believers take their last breath in this life they will take their first breath in heaven. If you want to live without hope that is your decision. I see a life line being thrown to us from our creator (Jesus) and I choose to take it gratefully and thankfully.
You are free to believe or not believe. You can believe that out of nothing somehow came the universe and all that we see. I won't waste my time arguing with you. I choose to believe and faith does play a huge part of a believer. Heb 11:3 through FAITH we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God so that things which are SEEN were created by things NOT SEEN. As much as you try to hate on Jesus His teachings were the opposite of your hate. Here is a quote from the Old Testament that is one of my favorites: And if it seem evil for you to serve the Lord choose you this day whom you will serve but as for me and my house we will serve the Lord. On May 5 1982 at a little past 11:00 PM I turned to the Lord and made Jesus my Lord and Savior. It was the best decision I ever made . Not only the blessings I have gotten in this life but knowing my Lord and Savior has created a place for believers and physical death is not the end that when believers take their last breath in this life they will take their first breath in heaven. If you want to live without hope that is your decision. I see a life line being thrown to us from our creator (Jesus) and I choose to take it gratefully and thankfully.
and u didnt answer a single fukki g point that J made despite quoting his post. Lets just be honest, u cant. Theres nothing to say. Ur an idealogue who will go to.his frave defending the rapists and slavers of ur idealogies past just exactly the same as ur old tesrament brothers the muslims do.
You're all dead people. Your light died out decades ago. Now ur useless scriptures are all you have.
I would firgive this if it werent for the fact that this world was built by now 100's of gnerations of men who also had their spark extinguished. Its the reason we're where we are now. Dead inside people built all of thos. Raging narcissistic sociopaths and their apologizers/enablers who are equally as dead.
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Let's be real honest no matter what I posted would have been sufficient. I don't want to go down dueling google links road again.
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It would take a miracle for a man to live for three days inside a whale.
Peculiar that all miracles halted after the invention of the camera.
Peculiar that all miracles halted after the invention of the camera.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/23/india-blasphemy-jesus-tears
they arrested that guy cayse he told people that water u think that statue is weeping......is coming from a backed up shtter. Id think the story more hilarious if he wasnt threatened with death and had to leave the country. I hope the next guy doesnt say anything......except drink that sht up kids, thats so.e some good jesus tears drink up and get #crunklife
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Let's be real honest no matter what I posted would have been sufficient. I don't want to go down dueling google links road again.
Let's be real honest no matter what I posted would have been sufficient. I don't want to go down dueling google links road again.
because if u do it becomes clear just how intertwined ur religion is with those hated moooooossslliimmmss. And even the breeziest most casual stroll through history shows how your religion forsake christs word for geopoltical gains essentially a few centuries after his death. Whether jesus was the son of god or not i cant really debare with u....i didnt know him.
But what i can assure u is whoever he was, he'd be disgusted by all of u if he was here. He'd have nothing to do with you. absolutely nothing
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Peculiar that all miracles halted after the invention of the camera.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/23/india-blasphemy-jesus-tears
they arrested that guy cayse he told people that water u think that statue is weeping......is coming from a backed up shtter. Id think the story more hilarious if he wasnt threatened with death and had to leave the country. I hope the next guy doesnt say anything......except drink that sht up kids, thats so.e some good jesus tears drink up and get #crunklife
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/23/india-blasphemy-jesus-tears
they arrested that guy cayse he told people that water u think that statue is weeping......is coming from a backed up shtter. Id think the story more hilarious if he wasnt threatened with death and had to leave the country. I hope the next guy doesnt say anything......except drink that sht up kids, thats so.e some good jesus tears drink up and get #crunklife
This "miracle" has been discussed on this board already. It's Groundhog's day every day when arguing religion with people.
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As I posted before Jesus Himself warned there would be many who would claim to know Him but he never knew them. I would believe anyone doing evil in Jesus's name would fit the category He speaks of. There is only one perfect one spoken of in the bible and that is Jesus. Because followers of Jesus and those who claim to be followers (but really aren't) are not perfect and make mistakes and sins it is easy to point to them and condemn Christianity as a whole. I tell people to study the life of Jesus and try to find fault with Him and let me know what you find. Would Jesus be disgusted by the actions of some who claim to follow Him. Absolutely and He said that would happen. But there is truth to the saying Christians are not perfect but forgiven. What is the definition of sin but missing the mark and we all miss the mark at times even Christians because we are not perfect but we follow the one who is.
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if ur people have demonstrably failed and failed "miserably" at upholding the values of a man they cannot prove existed but have faith he did.....if 5hey cant even pass over the lowest bars.........than why the fuk should i care about their religion or agree to abide by its principles?
i just know in the deepest places in my heart, that u people want to.go back to fundamentalism. You people wanna go back to the days a man could rape a girl and she had to carry the baby if she became pregnant. But if it happebed to one of ur daughters i guarantee thst sht would not fly
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Peculiar that all miracles halted after the invention of the camera.
7 Modern Miracles That Science Can't Explain
God is still in the business of miracles.
http://www.beliefnet.com/inspiration/7-modern-miracles-that-science-cant-explain.aspx
7 Modern Miracles That Science Can't Explain
God is still in the business of miracles.
http://www.beliefnet.com/inspiration/7-modern-miracles-that-science-cant-explain.aspx
Peculiar =\= miraculous. None of that is on par with zombies, people inside of whales, boats that hold two of every species of animal on Earth, etc.
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Peculiar that all miracles halted after the invention of the camera.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/23/india-blasphemy-jesus-tears
they arrested that guy cayse he told people that water u think that statue is weeping......is coming from a backed up shtter. Id think the story more hilarious if he wasnt threatened with death and had to leave the country. I hope the next guy doesnt say anything......except drink that sht up kids, thats so.e some good jesus tears drink up and get #crunklife
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/23/india-blasphemy-jesus-tears
they arrested that guy cayse he told people that water u think that statue is weeping......is coming from a backed up shtter. Id think the story more hilarious if he wasnt threatened with death and had to leave the country. I hope the next guy doesnt say anything......except drink that sht up kids, thats so.e some good jesus tears drink up and get #crunklife
Reminds me of the crying Jesus episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm.
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What does the Bible say about people living inside of a whale?
What does the Bible say about people living inside of a whale?
It would take a miracle for a man to live for three days inside a whale.
Peculiar that all miracles halted after the invention of the camera.
Peculiar =\= miraculous. None of that is on par with zombies, people inside of whales, boats that hold two of every species of animal on Earth, etc.
Logic, it seems you've stumbled on the inverse relationship between the quality of miracles and the quality of scientific knowledge; ie. "as scientific knowledge about our world increases, the scale and grandiosity of proclaimed miracles seems to decrease".
Thousands of years ago when the Bible was written and the scientific knowledge about our world was scant, things like being swallowed by whales for day on end, Arks that could fit every species on it, stopping of the Earth's rotation so that the Sun would remain in the same place in the sky for hours, resurrection of the dead, etc. were common. But once things like the germ theory of disease, Newtonian physical principles like gravity and orbital mechanics, and evolution were discovered, the spectacle of miracles seemed to be reduced to the mundane like seeing the Virgin Mary on burnt toast and the Jesus weeping sewer water.
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Let's be real honest no matter what I posted would have been sufficient. I don't want to go down dueling google links road again.
Let's be real honest no matter what I posted would have been sufficient. I don't want to go down dueling google links road again.
You are the one who created this thread, on a public message board, to extol the supposed virtues of the Christian religion. What you say or do or believe in the privacy of your own home or church is not my business; i'm not going around bursting into churches during Sunday services to debate atheism with the congregation. But you open your views to debate and criticism once you bring them into the public forum.
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One day we will all know soon enough what is truth and what is false. Life is incredibly short in measured to eternity and we will all face physical death soon enough. We are living in the end times. The clock started ticking with Israel in 1948. How many nations have disappeared for a couple thousand years and then return as a nation? I can only think of one. The one that was foretold in the bible. And now we see the world turning against this tiny nation. The destruction spoken of in Revelation was so great that for many centuries it was believed only God could do them but all the destruction spoke of in Revelation lines up perfectly with the results of a nuclear war.
In his book There’s A New World Coming (1973), Hal Lindsey writes:
“Although it is possible for God to supernaturally pull off every miracle in the Book of Revelation and use totally unheard of means to do it, I personally believe that all the enormous ecological catastrophes described in this chapter (Revelation ? are the direct result of nuclear weapons. In actuality, man inflicts these judgments on himself. God simply steps back and removes His restraining influence from man, allowing him to do what comes naturally out of his sinful nature. In fact, if the Book of Revelation had never been written, we might well predict these very catastrophes within fifty years or less!”
The Apostle John’s description of the sun becoming black as sack cloth and the moon becoming like blood perfectly describes the phenomena that would result from massive amounts of dust and debris blown into the sky by multiple nuclear bursts.
“And the atmosphere was pushed apart like a scroll when it is rolled together”(Revelation 6:14). Do you know what happens in a nuclear explosion? The atmosphere rolls back on itself! It’s this tremendous rush of air back into the vacuum that causes much of the destruction of a nuclear explosion. John’s words in this verse are a perfect picture of an all out nuclear exchange… The whole world will be literally shaken apart!
As we read the book of Revelation, we find John did not use terms like “nuclear weapons, ICBM’s, or fractional orbital bombs.” Instead we find him describing things like “hail and fire,” “a great mountain burning with fire,” and “a great star… burning like a torch.” This is what we would expect of a First Century man, describing things he had no knowledge of in the only terms he knew to use. Could it be that what John was really witnessing in the Spirit, was an end of the age nuclear holocaust? The effects he describes certainly seem to bear this out.
It should be evident that what we are talking about is a weapon unparalleled in human history; a weapon with the capacity to obliterate huge cities in seconds. This is a scenario that perfectly fits with the kind of swift, mass destruction spoken of in the book of Revelation. Indeed, considering the widespread death predicted by John, it would be hard for us to imagine anything other than a nuclear holocaust which could come close to producing such carnage.
The poisoning of the waters (Revelation 8:11), the severe reduction in visibility (Revelation 8:12), the death of much of the earth’s vegetation (Revelation 8:7), malignant sores (Revelation 16:2), the end of ocean life (Revelation 16:3), and the inability of the atmosphere to block out harmful ultraviolet rays, resulting in severe burns (Revelation 16:8) are all expected results of nuclear war. The implications of these prophecies is not pretty — this earth has an appointment with a devastation which shall be horrible beyond imagination.
Is There Any Hope?
Up to this point the picture seems grim and hopeless. And in a certain way it is. There is no hope for this present evil age. It is under a death sentence from Almighty God. The flood of hatred, violence, immorality, abortion, homosexuality, and the mockery of all that is good and holy will finally produce a response from heaven. God has decreed that this present evil age shall pass away in a flame of fire, death, and judgment. No amount of peace talks, goodwill conferences, or think tanks will be able to change that.
Likewise those who refuse to repent and turn to Christ are in a hopeless situation. There is no peace or security for those who determine to live life by their own rules. When God’s wrath begins to fall, it will overtake the rich and the poor, the celebrities along with the unknown, the sophisticates with the simpletons. No hiding place on earth, no amount of wealth or prestige, no measure of cleverness or ingenuity will be able to spare people from the wrath to come.
The good news in all of this is that God has always provided a hiding place whenever He poured out His wrath. In Noah’s flood, that safety was found in the ark. In the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Lot was told to flee to the mountains. Rahab found safety from the destruction of her city by staying in her house with a scarlet cord tied to the window.
In these last days God’s hiding place will be found, not in a cave in the mountains, not in a mammoth ark, but in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ. It was on His Cross that Jesus took the wrath of God upon Himself, in order that those who would put their trust in Him might be spared. The Scriptures tell us, “For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Thessalonians 5:9). For those whose godly lives reveal that they have truly placed their faith in Jesus, He will come and take them unto Himself.
http://christinprophecy.org/articles/nuclear-weapons-in-the-end-times/
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