chubb needs to move to the 1 spot for at least a week or two...
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There are not enough carries, period.
I did not see the game, but WTF giving a rookie QB 44 attempts? Yeh, you can expect 2 INT's from that. Baker is great and all of that but I would limit his attempts to fewer than 30. They limited Big Ben to 20 attempts for his first 2 seasons and the result was a championship. I'm a Todd Hayley fan but he was wrong to give Baker 44 attempts.
I’m trying to take a positive out of all those attempts, that being the reps. Browns were playing behind and the chargers lead kept growing, so the mistakes happened. Hopefully he’ll grow from it.
I’m trying to take a positive out of all those attempts, that being the reps. Browns were playing behind and the chargers lead kept growing, so the mistakes happened. Hopefully he’ll grow from it.
I'm hoping they see how Duke played and decide to use him more. He's a different type of RB from Chubb and Hyde so if CLE can't pound it you got a RB in Duke who brings a different skillset.
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I’m trying to take a positive out of all those attempts, that being the reps. Browns were playing behind and the chargers lead kept growing, so the mistakes happened. Hopefully he’ll grow from it.
I'm hoping they see how Duke played and decide to use him more. He's a different type of RB from Chubb and Hyde so if CLE can't pound it you got a RB in Duke who brings a different skillset.
I'm hoping they see how Duke played and decide to use him more. He's a different type of RB from Chubb and Hyde so if CLE can't pound it you got a RB in Duke who brings a different skillset.
I feel like this statement might as well be played on a loop, because it feels like we've been saying the same thing over and over.
Duke should get 10-15 touches every game. He's not a workhorse, but 10-15 touches a game is not a burdensome load for him to bear.
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I'm hoping they see how Duke played and decide to use him more. He's a different type of RB from Chubb and Hyde so if CLE can't pound it you got a RB in Duke who brings a different skillset.
I feel like this statement might as well be played on a loop, because it feels like we've been saying the same thing over and over.
Duke should get 10-15 touches every game. He's not a workhorse, but 10-15 touches a game is not a burdensome load for him to bear.
I feel like this statement might as well be played on a loop, because it feels like we've been saying the same thing over and over.
Duke should get 10-15 touches every game. He's not a workhorse, but 10-15 touches a game is not a burdensome load for him to bear.
Agreed, especially when you see how productive other good receiving RBs around the league have been & are.
Mike
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I feel like this statement might as well be played on a loop, because it feels like we've been saying the same thing over and over.
Duke should get 10-15 touches every game. He's not a workhorse, but 10-15 touches a game is not a burdensome load for him to bear.
Agreed, especially when you see how productive other good receiving RBs around the league have been & are.
Mike
Agreed, especially when you see how productive other good receiving RBs around the league have been & are.
Mike
so how much of that is on hue ?
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Agreed, especially when you see how productive other good receiving RBs around the league have been & are.
Mike
so how much of that is on hue ?
so how much of that is on hue ?
Depends on how much you think he still influences the happening ons for the offense.
It was a common complaint when Hue was his own OC, though.
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Agreed, especially when you see how productive other good receiving RBs around the league have been & are.
Mike
so how much of that is on hue ?
so how much of that is on hue ?
If you're looking to me to get on the Hue bashing wagon, you're barking up the wrong tree.
Hue will be evaluated by folks far more qualified than you or me.
Mike
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Depends on how much you think he still influences the happening ons for the offense.
It was a common complaint when Hue was his own OC, though.
well according to the ghoul hue is running everything and the rest are just lackies
If you're looking to me to get on the Hue bashing wagon, you're barking up the wrong tree.
Hue will be evaluated by folks far more qualified than you or me.
Mike
who truck stop jimmy cause he sure has shown he knows what he is doing
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If you're looking to me to get on the Hue bashing wagon, you're barking up the wrong tree.
Hue will be evaluated by folks far more qualified than you or me.
Mike
The Haslam’s. Are you sure there are more qualified than you you and me?
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He has a bit fresher legs. Let him be the workhorse for a few weeks and let carlos get a couple relief innings in per week.
We're not running enough. We need to avg around 30 carries a week. The 1 should get 15-18 of those and the rest of the carrys split between the #2 and duke.
He has a bit fresher legs. Let him be the workhorse for a few weeks and let carlos get a couple relief innings in per week.
We're not running enough. We need to avg around 30 carries a week. The 1 should get 15-18 of those and the rest of the carrys split between the #2 and duke.
The pass makes the run possible. The fake Browns didn't pass for schidt last week.
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baker held the ball for easily 7+ seconds on sunday. That obviously shows wr'r werent gettibg open. Most of those sacks were coverage sacks. Again, the lack of commitment to the run.......its why we lost as badly as we did imo. This ckearly is an offense built for the run-to-pass.....but haley, i just dont get him right now.
Baker should be adjusting the run plays at the los and pulling the ball back when he sees something. One of the smartest qb's in recent times and we're running sht like an urban meyer offense. Smh
baker held the ball for easily 7+ seconds on sunday. That obviously shows wr'r werent gettibg open. Most of those sacks were coverage sacks. Again, the lack of commitment to the run.......its why we lost as badly as we did imo. This ckearly is an offense built for the run-to-pass.....but haley, i just dont get him right now.
Baker should be adjusting the run plays at the los and pulling the ball back when he sees something. One of the smartest qb's in recent times and we're running sht like an urban meyer offense. Smh
Hoorts says the running game is not important.
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I’m trying to take a positive out of all those attempts, that being the reps. Browns were playing behind and the chargers lead kept growing, so the mistakes happened. Hopefully he’ll grow from it.
I'm hoping they see how Duke played and decide to use him more. He's a different type of RB from Chubb and Hyde so if CLE can't pound it you got a RB in Duke who brings a different skillset.
I'm hoping they see how Duke played and decide to use him more. He's a different type of RB from Chubb and Hyde so if CLE can't pound it you got a RB in Duke who brings a different skillset.
Duke sure hasn't been used so far in 2018 and he might be better as part of the passing game:
Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 54 9 278 1196 5 39 4.3 22.1 5.1 263 202 1905 9.4 5 52 3.7 35.3 480 6.5 3101 10 8 16 2015 22 CLE rb 29 16 7 104 379 0 39 3.6 23.7 6.5 74 61 534 8.8 2 52 3.8 33.4 82.4% 165 5.5 913 2 1 5 2016 23 CLE rb 29 16 1 73 358 1 22 4.9 22.4 4.6 74 53 514 9.7 0 32 3.3 32.1 71.6% 126 6.9 872 1 2 5 2017 24 CLE 29 16 0 82 348 4 19 4.2 21.8 5.1 93 74 693 9.4 3 41 4.6 43.3 79.6% 156 6.7 1041 7 4 6 2018 25 CLE rb 29 6 1 19 111 0 23 5.8 18.5 3.2 22 14 164 11.7 0 32 2.3 27.3 63.6% 33 8.3 275 0 1 2018 6 games 19 rushes 14 receptions? Barely 5 touches per game and with Hyde and Chubb where does he fit there?
Rushing Receiving Scoring Fumbles Date Week Tm Opp Result GS Rush Yds Y/A TD Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt 2PM TD Fmb FF FR Yds TD 2018-09-09 1 CLE PIT T 21-21 5 17 3.40 0 6 1 8 8.00 0 16.7% 1.33 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-09-16 2 CLE @ NOR L 18-21 * 3 3 1.00 0 2 2 7 3.50 0 100.0% 3.50 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-09-20 3 CLE NYJ W 21-17 2 9 4.50 0 2 2 24 12.00 0 100.0% 12.00 0 1 0 0 0 0 2018-09-30 4 CLE @ OAK L 42-45 2 11 5.50 0 6 4 45 11.25 0 66.7% 7.50 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-10-07 5 CLE BAL W 12-9 5 35 7.00 0 1 1 7 7.00 0 100.0% 7.00 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-10-14 6 CLE LAC L 14-38 2 36 18.00 0 5 4 73 18.25 0 80.0% 14.60 0 0 0 0 0 0 Upcoming Games · Bye in Week 11 2018-10-21 7 CLE @ TAM Preview 2018-10-28 8 CLE @ PIT Preview · Stats for 7 games vs. Steelers · Avg. 3.1 rush, 10.3 yds, 0.1 TD (Last in 2018) 2018-11-04 9 CLE KAN Preview · Stats for 1 game vs. Chiefs · 8 rush, 26 yds, 0 TD (in 2015) -
Agreed, especially when you see how productive other good receiving RBs around the league have been & are.
Mike
so how much of that is on hue ?
so how much of that is on hue ?
Depends upon when the decision on how much to use Duke occurs.
If it's on Monday in the game plan meetings, then it's on Hue. If it's play calls within the flow of a given game that's primarily on Haley, although Hue can call at any time to "feature" Duke for a series.
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baker held the ball for easily 7+ seconds on sunday. That obviously shows wr'r werent gettibg open. Most of those sacks were coverage sacks. Again, the lack of commitment to the run.......its why we lost as badly as we did imo. This ckearly is an offense built for the run-to-pass.....but haley, i just dont get him right now.
Baker should be adjusting the run plays at the los and pulling the ball back when he sees something. One of the smartest qb's in recent times and we're running sht like an urban meyer offense. Smh
Hoorts says the running game is not important.
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baker held the ball for easily 7+ seconds on sunday. That obviously shows wr'r werent gettibg open. Most of those sacks were coverage sacks. Again, the lack of commitment to the run.......its why we lost as badly as we did imo. This ckearly is an offense built for the run-to-pass.....but haley, i just dont get him right now.
Baker should be adjusting the run plays at the los and pulling the ball back when he sees something. One of the smartest qb's in recent times and we're running sht like an urban meyer offense. Smh
Hoorts says the running game is not important.
Hoorts says the running game is not important.
Why lie so blatantly so obviously I mean you’re not POTUS
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I'm hoping they see how Duke played and decide to use him more. He's a different type of RB from Chubb and Hyde so if CLE can't pound it you got a RB in Duke who brings a different skillset.
Duke sure hasn't been used so far in 2018 and he might be better as part of the passing game:
Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 54 9 278 1196 5 39 4.3 22.1 5.1 263 202 1905 9.4 5 52 3.7 35.3 480 6.5 3101 10 8 16 2015 22 CLE rb 29 16 7 104 379 0 39 3.6 23.7 6.5 74 61 534 8.8 2 52 3.8 33.4 82.4% 165 5.5 913 2 1 5 2016 23 CLE rb 29 16 1 73 358 1 22 4.9 22.4 4.6 74 53 514 9.7 0 32 3.3 32.1 71.6% 126 6.9 872 1 2 5 2017 24 CLE 29 16 0 82 348 4 19 4.2 21.8 5.1 93 74 693 9.4 3 41 4.6 43.3 79.6% 156 6.7 1041 7 4 6 2018 25 CLE rb 29 6 1 19 111 0 23 5.8 18.5 3.2 22 14 164 11.7 0 32 2.3 27.3 63.6% 33 8.3 275 0 1 2018 6 games 19 rushes 14 receptions? Barely 5 touches per game and with Hyde and Chubb where does he fit there?
Rushing Receiving Scoring Fumbles Date Week Tm Opp Result GS Rush Yds Y/A TD Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt 2PM TD Fmb FF FR Yds TD 2018-09-09 1 CLE PIT T 21-21 5 17 3.40 0 6 1 8 8.00 0 16.7% 1.33 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-09-16 2 CLE @ NOR L 18-21 * 3 3 1.00 0 2 2 7 3.50 0 100.0% 3.50 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-09-20 3 CLE NYJ W 21-17 2 9 4.50 0 2 2 24 12.00 0 100.0% 12.00 0 1 0 0 0 0 2018-09-30 4 CLE @ OAK L 42-45 2 11 5.50 0 6 4 45 11.25 0 66.7% 7.50 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-10-07 5 CLE BAL W 12-9 5 35 7.00 0 1 1 7 7.00 0 100.0% 7.00 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-10-14 6 CLE LAC L 14-38 2 36 18.00 0 5 4 73 18.25 0 80.0% 14.60 0 0 0 0 0 0 Upcoming Games · Bye in Week 11 2018-10-21 7 CLE @ TAM Preview 2018-10-28 8 CLE @ PIT Preview · Stats for 7 games vs. Steelers · Avg. 3.1 rush, 10.3 yds, 0.1 TD (Last in 2018) 2018-11-04 9 CLE KAN Preview · Stats for 1 game vs. Chiefs · 8 rush, 26 yds, 0 TD (in 2015) Duke sure hasn't been used so far in 2018 and he might be better as part of the passing game:
Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 54 9 278 1196 5 39 4.3 22.1 5.1 263 202 1905 9.4 5 52 3.7 35.3 480 6.5 3101 10 8 16 2015 22 CLE rb 29 16 7 104 379 0 39 3.6 23.7 6.5 74 61 534 8.8 2 52 3.8 33.4 82.4% 165 5.5 913 2 1 5 2016 23 CLE rb 29 16 1 73 358 1 22 4.9 22.4 4.6 74 53 514 9.7 0 32 3.3 32.1 71.6% 126 6.9 872 1 2 5 2017 24 CLE 29 16 0 82 348 4 19 4.2 21.8 5.1 93 74 693 9.4 3 41 4.6 43.3 79.6% 156 6.7 1041 7 4 6 2018 25 CLE rb 29 6 1 19 111 0 23 5.8 18.5 3.2 22 14 164 11.7 0 32 2.3 27.3 63.6% 33 8.3 275 0 1 2018 6 games 19 rushes 14 receptions? Barely 5 touches per game and with Hyde and Chubb where does he fit there?
Rushing Receiving Scoring Fumbles Date Week Tm Opp Result GS Rush Yds Y/A TD Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt 2PM TD Fmb FF FR Yds TD 2018-09-09 1 CLE PIT T 21-21 5 17 3.40 0 6 1 8 8.00 0 16.7% 1.33 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-09-16 2 CLE @ NOR L 18-21 * 3 3 1.00 0 2 2 7 3.50 0 100.0% 3.50 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-09-20 3 CLE NYJ W 21-17 2 9 4.50 0 2 2 24 12.00 0 100.0% 12.00 0 1 0 0 0 0 2018-09-30 4 CLE @ OAK L 42-45 2 11 5.50 0 6 4 45 11.25 0 66.7% 7.50 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-10-07 5 CLE BAL W 12-9 5 35 7.00 0 1 1 7 7.00 0 100.0% 7.00 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-10-14 6 CLE LAC L 14-38 2 36 18.00 0 5 4 73 18.25 0 80.0% 14.60 0 0 0 0 0 0 Upcoming Games · Bye in Week 11 2018-10-21 7 CLE @ TAM Preview 2018-10-28 8 CLE @ PIT Preview · Stats for 7 games vs. Steelers · Avg. 3.1 rush, 10.3 yds, 0.1 TD (Last in 2018) 2018-11-04 9 CLE KAN Preview · Stats for 1 game vs. Chiefs · 8 rush, 26 yds, 0 TD (in 2015) CLE just going to have to be like NE. Use RBs based on defensive matchups and game situation instead of relying on a bellcow
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Duke sure hasn't been used so far in 2018 and he might be better as part of the passing game:
Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 54 9 278 1196 5 39 4.3 22.1 5.1 263 202 1905 9.4 5 52 3.7 35.3 480 6.5 3101 10 8 16 2015 22 CLE rb 29 16 7 104 379 0 39 3.6 23.7 6.5 74 61 534 8.8 2 52 3.8 33.4 82.4% 165 5.5 913 2 1 5 2016 23 CLE rb 29 16 1 73 358 1 22 4.9 22.4 4.6 74 53 514 9.7 0 32 3.3 32.1 71.6% 126 6.9 872 1 2 5 2017 24 CLE 29 16 0 82 348 4 19 4.2 21.8 5.1 93 74 693 9.4 3 41 4.6 43.3 79.6% 156 6.7 1041 7 4 6 2018 25 CLE rb 29 6 1 19 111 0 23 5.8 18.5 3.2 22 14 164 11.7 0 32 2.3 27.3 63.6% 33 8.3 275 0 1 2018 6 games 19 rushes 14 receptions? Barely 5 touches per game and with Hyde and Chubb where does he fit there?
Rushing Receiving Scoring Fumbles Date Week Tm Opp Result GS Rush Yds Y/A TD Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt 2PM TD Fmb FF FR Yds TD 2018-09-09 1 CLE PIT T 21-21 5 17 3.40 0 6 1 8 8.00 0 16.7% 1.33 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-09-16 2 CLE @ NOR L 18-21 * 3 3 1.00 0 2 2 7 3.50 0 100.0% 3.50 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-09-20 3 CLE NYJ W 21-17 2 9 4.50 0 2 2 24 12.00 0 100.0% 12.00 0 1 0 0 0 0 2018-09-30 4 CLE @ OAK L 42-45 2 11 5.50 0 6 4 45 11.25 0 66.7% 7.50 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-10-07 5 CLE BAL W 12-9 5 35 7.00 0 1 1 7 7.00 0 100.0% 7.00 0 0 0 0 0 0 2018-10-14 6 CLE LAC L 14-38 2 36 18.00 0 5 4 73 18.25 0 80.0% 14.60 0 0 0 0 0 0 Upcoming Games · Bye in Week 11 2018-10-21 7 CLE @ TAM Preview 2018-10-28 8 CLE @ PIT Preview · Stats for 7 games vs. Steelers · Avg. 3.1 rush, 10.3 yds, 0.1 TD (Last in 2018) 2018-11-04 9 CLE KAN Preview · Stats for 1 game vs. Chiefs · 8 rush, 26 yds, 0 TD (in 2015) CLE just going to have to be like NE. Use RBs based on defensive matchups and game situation instead of relying on a bellcow
CLE just going to have to be like NE. Use RBs based on defensive matchups and game situation instead of relying on a bellcow
And how can we forget that the BROWNS are coming off of 1-31, they still are very much still in rebuilding mode not like NE and in the continuing just reloading more.....but they do a good job of filling holes. Belichick love him or hate him does know football (and the latest cheating techniques).
The BROWNS still need another good talent procurement year to even think about getting over .500.
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