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chubb needs to move to the 1 spot for at least a week or two...

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  • @canton-mike said:

    Agreed, especially when you see how productive other good receiving RBs around the league have been & are.

    Mike

    so how much of that is on hue ?

    @atom said:

    so how much of that is on hue ?

    Depends upon when the decision on how much to use Duke occurs.

    If it's on Monday in the game plan meetings, then it's on Hue. If it's play calls within the flow of a given game that's primarily on Haley, although Hue can call at any time to "feature" Duke for a series.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    baker held the ball for easily 7+ seconds on sunday. That obviously shows wr'r werent gettibg open. Most of those sacks were coverage sacks. Again, the lack of commitment to the run.......its why we lost as badly as we did imo. This ckearly is an offense built for the run-to-pass.....but haley, i just dont get him right now. 

    Baker should be adjusting the run plays at the los and pulling the ball back when he sees something. One of the smartest qb's in recent times and we're running sht like an urban meyer offense. Smh

    Hoorts says the running game is not important.

    @ghoolie said:

    Hoorts says the running game is not important.

    tjats demonstrably untrue

  • @clevfan4life said:

    baker held the ball for easily 7+ seconds on sunday. That obviously shows wr'r werent gettibg open. Most of those sacks were coverage sacks. Again, the lack of commitment to the run.......its why we lost as badly as we did imo. This ckearly is an offense built for the run-to-pass.....but haley, i just dont get him right now. 

    Baker should be adjusting the run plays at the los and pulling the ball back when he sees something. One of the smartest qb's in recent times and we're running sht like an urban meyer offense. Smh

    Hoorts says the running game is not important.

    @ghoolie said:

    Hoorts says the running game is not important.

    Why lie so blatantly so obviously I mean you’re not POTUS

  • @realplayer said:

    I'm hoping they see how Duke played and decide to use him more. He's a different type of RB from Chubb and Hyde so if CLE can't pound it you got a RB in Duke who brings a different skillset.

    Duke sure hasn't been used so far in 2018 and he might be better as part of the passing game:

      Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds      
    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
    Career       54 9 278 1196 5 39 4.3 22.1 5.1 263 202 1905 9.4 5 52 3.7 35.3   480 6.5 3101 10 8 16
    2015 22 CLE rb 29 16 7 104 379 0 39 3.6 23.7 6.5 74 61 534 8.8 2 52 3.8 33.4 82.4% 165 5.5 913 2 1 5
    2016 23 CLE rb 29 16 1 73 358 1 22 4.9 22.4 4.6 74 53 514 9.7 0 32 3.3 32.1 71.6% 126 6.9 872 1 2 5
    2017 24 CLE   29 16 0 82 348 4 19 4.2 21.8 5.1 93 74 693 9.4 3 41 4.6 43.3 79.6% 156 6.7 1041 7 4 6
    2018 25 CLE rb 29 6 1 19 111 0 23 5.8 18.5 3.2 22 14 164 11.7 0 32 2.3 27.3 63.6% 33 8.3 275 0 1  

    2018 6 games 19 rushes 14 receptions?  Barely 5 touches per game and with Hyde and Chubb where does he fit there?

        Rushing Receiving Scoring Fumbles
    Date Week Tm   Opp Result GS Rush Yds Y/A TD Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt 2PM TD Fmb FF FR Yds TD
    2018-09-09 1 CLE   PIT T 21-21   5 17 3.40 0 6 1 8 8.00 0 16.7% 1.33   0 0 0 0 0 0
    2018-09-16 2 CLE @ NOR L 18-21 * 3 3 1.00 0 2 2 7 3.50 0 100.0% 3.50   0 0 0 0 0 0
    2018-09-20 3 CLE   NYJ W 21-17   2 9 4.50 0 2 2 24 12.00 0 100.0% 12.00   0 1 0 0 0 0
    2018-09-30 4 CLE @ OAK L 42-45   2 11 5.50 0 6 4 45 11.25 0 66.7% 7.50 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
    2018-10-07 5 CLE   BAL W 12-9   5 35 7.00 0 1 1 7 7.00 0 100.0% 7.00   0 0 0 0 0 0
    2018-10-14 6 CLE   LAC L 14-38   2 36 18.00 0 5 4 73 18.25 0 80.0% 14.60   0 0 0 0 0 0
    Upcoming Games · Bye in Week 11
    2018-10-21 7 CLE @ TAM Preview
    2018-10-28 8 CLE @ PIT Preview · Stats for 7 games vs. Steelers · Avg. 3.1 rush, 10.3 yds, 0.1 TD (Last in 2018)
    2018-11-04 9 CLE   KAN Preview · Stats for 1 game vs. Chiefs · 8 rush, 26 yds, 0 TD (in 2015)
     

    @mjp28 said:

    Duke sure hasn't been used so far in 2018 and he might be better as part of the passing game:

      Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds      
    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
    Career       54 9 278 1196 5 39 4.3 22.1 5.1 263 202 1905 9.4 5 52 3.7 35.3   480 6.5 3101 10 8 16
    2015 22 CLE rb 29 16 7 104 379 0 39 3.6 23.7 6.5 74 61 534 8.8 2 52 3.8 33.4 82.4% 165 5.5 913 2 1 5
    2016 23 CLE rb 29 16 1 73 358 1 22 4.9 22.4 4.6 74 53 514 9.7 0 32 3.3 32.1 71.6% 126 6.9 872 1 2 5
    2017 24 CLE   29 16 0 82 348 4 19 4.2 21.8 5.1 93 74 693 9.4 3 41 4.6 43.3 79.6% 156 6.7 1041 7 4 6
    2018 25 CLE rb 29 6 1 19 111 0 23 5.8 18.5 3.2 22 14 164 11.7 0 32 2.3 27.3 63.6% 33 8.3 275 0 1  

    2018 6 games 19 rushes 14 receptions?  Barely 5 touches per game and with Hyde and Chubb where does he fit there?

        Rushing Receiving Scoring Fumbles
    Date Week Tm   Opp Result GS Rush Yds Y/A TD Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt 2PM TD Fmb FF FR Yds TD
    2018-09-09 1 CLE   PIT T 21-21   5 17 3.40 0 6 1 8 8.00 0 16.7% 1.33   0 0 0 0 0 0
    2018-09-16 2 CLE @ NOR L 18-21 * 3 3 1.00 0 2 2 7 3.50 0 100.0% 3.50   0 0 0 0 0 0
    2018-09-20 3 CLE   NYJ W 21-17   2 9 4.50 0 2 2 24 12.00 0 100.0% 12.00   0 1 0 0 0 0
    2018-09-30 4 CLE @ OAK L 42-45   2 11 5.50 0 6 4 45 11.25 0 66.7% 7.50 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
    2018-10-07 5 CLE   BAL W 12-9   5 35 7.00 0 1 1 7 7.00 0 100.0% 7.00   0 0 0 0 0 0
    2018-10-14 6 CLE   LAC L 14-38   2 36 18.00 0 5 4 73 18.25 0 80.0% 14.60   0 0 0 0 0 0
    Upcoming Games · Bye in Week 11
    2018-10-21 7 CLE @ TAM Preview
    2018-10-28 8 CLE @ PIT Preview · Stats for 7 games vs. Steelers · Avg. 3.1 rush, 10.3 yds, 0.1 TD (Last in 2018)
    2018-11-04 9 CLE   KAN Preview · Stats for 1 game vs. Chiefs · 8 rush, 26 yds, 0 TD (in 2015)
     

    CLE just going to have to be like NE. Use RBs based on defensive matchups and game situation instead of relying on a bellcow

  • @mjp28 said:

    Duke sure hasn't been used so far in 2018 and he might be better as part of the passing game:

      Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds      
    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
    Career       54 9 278 1196 5 39 4.3 22.1 5.1 263 202 1905 9.4 5 52 3.7 35.3   480 6.5 3101 10 8 16
    2015 22 CLE rb 29 16 7 104 379 0 39 3.6 23.7 6.5 74 61 534 8.8 2 52 3.8 33.4 82.4% 165 5.5 913 2 1 5
    2016 23 CLE rb 29 16 1 73 358 1 22 4.9 22.4 4.6 74 53 514 9.7 0 32 3.3 32.1 71.6% 126 6.9 872 1 2 5
    2017 24 CLE   29 16 0 82 348 4 19 4.2 21.8 5.1 93 74 693 9.4 3 41 4.6 43.3 79.6% 156 6.7 1041 7 4 6
    2018 25 CLE rb 29 6 1 19 111 0 23 5.8 18.5 3.2 22 14 164 11.7 0 32 2.3 27.3 63.6% 33 8.3 275 0 1  

    2018 6 games 19 rushes 14 receptions?  Barely 5 touches per game and with Hyde and Chubb where does he fit there?

        Rushing Receiving Scoring Fumbles
    Date Week Tm   Opp Result GS Rush Yds Y/A TD Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt 2PM TD Fmb FF FR Yds TD
    2018-09-09 1 CLE   PIT T 21-21   5 17 3.40 0 6 1 8 8.00 0 16.7% 1.33   0 0 0 0 0 0
    2018-09-16 2 CLE @ NOR L 18-21 * 3 3 1.00 0 2 2 7 3.50 0 100.0% 3.50   0 0 0 0 0 0
    2018-09-20 3 CLE   NYJ W 21-17   2 9 4.50 0 2 2 24 12.00 0 100.0% 12.00   0 1 0 0 0 0
    2018-09-30 4 CLE @ OAK L 42-45   2 11 5.50 0 6 4 45 11.25 0 66.7% 7.50 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
    2018-10-07 5 CLE   BAL W 12-9   5 35 7.00 0 1 1 7 7.00 0 100.0% 7.00   0 0 0 0 0 0
    2018-10-14 6 CLE   LAC L 14-38   2 36 18.00 0 5 4 73 18.25 0 80.0% 14.60   0 0 0 0 0 0
    Upcoming Games · Bye in Week 11
    2018-10-21 7 CLE @ TAM Preview
    2018-10-28 8 CLE @ PIT Preview · Stats for 7 games vs. Steelers · Avg. 3.1 rush, 10.3 yds, 0.1 TD (Last in 2018)
    2018-11-04 9 CLE   KAN Preview · Stats for 1 game vs. Chiefs · 8 rush, 26 yds, 0 TD (in 2015)
     

    CLE just going to have to be like NE. Use RBs based on defensive matchups and game situation instead of relying on a bellcow

    @realplayer said:

    CLE just going to have to be like NE. Use RBs based on defensive matchups and game situation instead of relying on a bellcow

    And how can we forget that the BROWNS are coming off of 1-31, they still are very much still in rebuilding mode not like NE and in the continuing just reloading more.....but they do a good job of filling holes. Belichick love him or hate him does know football (and the latest cheating techniques). 😆

    The BROWNS still need another good talent procurement year to even think about getting over .500.

  • Hes gonna get the work now...adios carlos

  • And he is literally moving to the 1 spot...

  • Since the MO of this place is for people to return from the dead and pound on their chest, I'll present you with:

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Nick Chubb is going to be one of the better steals in this draft. 

    Guy has has tremendous vision and patience to be a successful runner in the NFL. Add in the fact that he’s a physical freak and he’ll be a starter sooner rather than later.

    And he’ll go in the second round.

  • i would have preferred they spread the heavy lifting between both. Dialing them up and down weekly to.keep them fresh. That was a playoff backfield

  • Since the MO of this place is for people to return from the dead and pound on their chest, I'll present you with:

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Nick Chubb is going to be one of the better steals in this draft. 

    Guy has has tremendous vision and patience to be a successful runner in the NFL. Add in the fact that he’s a physical freak and he’ll be a starter sooner rather than later.

    And he’ll go in the second round.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Since the MO of this place is for people to return from the dead and pound on their chest, I'll present you with:

    Welcome back from the dead