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  • honestly im ok with that call as long as they give browns players the same benefit of the doubt. I dont want QB's protected that hard. Baker clearly only started to.slide once he saw the guy coming. Had he commited himself to the slide a shade early. he might have drawn a flag. 

  • honestly im ok with that call as long as they give browns players the same benefit of the doubt. I dont want QB's protected that hard. Baker clearly only started to.slide once he saw the guy coming. Had he commited himself to the slide a shade early. he might have drawn a flag. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    honestly im ok with that call as long as they give browns players the same benefit of the doubt. I dont want QB's protected that hard. Baker clearly only started to.slide once he saw the guy coming. Had he commited himself to the slide a shade early. he might have drawn a flag. 

    The problem is when you see calls like the one on Mahomes last night where he was pushed from behind when he was maybe a yard or so out of bounds and that draws a flag.  He didn't even fall down from it.  There was no chance of him being hurt on the play whereas the play with Baker could've ended the game for both players and thats what they're trying to avoid.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    honestly im ok with that call as long as they give browns players the same benefit of the doubt. I dont want QB's protected that hard. Baker clearly only started to.slide once he saw the guy coming. Had he commited himself to the slide a shade early. he might have drawn a flag. 

    The problem is when you see calls like the one on Mahomes last night where he was pushed from behind when he was maybe a yard or so out of bounds and that draws a flag.  He didn't even fall down from it.  There was no chance of him being hurt on the play whereas the play with Baker could've ended the game for both players and thats what they're trying to avoid.

    @mark-o said:

    The problem is when you see calls like the one on Mahomes last night where he was pushed from behind when he was maybe a yard or so out of bounds and that draws a flag.  He didn't even fall down from it.  There was no chance of him being hurt on the play whereas the play with Baker could've ended the game for both players and thats what they're trying to avoid.

    yeah i agree, the consistency is appalling. Im vastly more infuriated tho by 2 straight weeks of the most obvious false starts not called thst ive ecer seen in 30 years of watching football. Never seen that sht. Winston was noticeably astonished there was no whistle.

  • @mark-o said:

    The problem is when you see calls like the one on Mahomes last night where he was pushed from behind when he was maybe a yard or so out of bounds and that draws a flag.  He didn't even fall down from it.  There was no chance of him being hurt on the play whereas the play with Baker could've ended the game for both players and thats what they're trying to avoid.

    yeah i agree, the consistency is appalling. Im vastly more infuriated tho by 2 straight weeks of the most obvious false starts not called thst ive ecer seen in 30 years of watching football. Never seen that sht. Winston was noticeably astonished there was no whistle.

    @clevfan4life said:

    yeah i agree, the consistency is appalling. Im vastly more infuriated tho by 2 straight weeks of the most obvious false starts not called thst ive ecer seen in 30 years of watching football. Never seen that sht. Winston was noticeably astonished there was no whistle.

    The calls are pretty atrocious across the board in all games.  Dallas got totally hosed on the game tying FG attempt on a terrible call.  At least this time, not calling the false start helped us because we got a sack on the play.

  • honestly im ok with that call as long as they give browns players the same benefit of the doubt. I dont want QB's protected that hard. Baker clearly only started to.slide once he saw the guy coming. Had he commited himself to the slide a shade early. he might have drawn a flag. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    honestly im ok with that call as long as they give browns players the same benefit of the doubt. I dont want QB's protected that hard. Baker clearly only started to.slide once he saw the guy coming. Had he commited himself to the slide a shade early. he might have drawn a flag. 

    how can you be o.k with it ? the defender lead with the crown of his helmet 

  • I hope the “soft rollout” costs them billions in court. 

  • @clevfan4life said:

    honestly im ok with that call as long as they give browns players the same benefit of the doubt. I dont want QB's protected that hard. Baker clearly only started to.slide once he saw the guy coming. Had he commited himself to the slide a shade early. he might have drawn a flag. 

    how can you be o.k with it ? the defender lead with the crown of his helmet 

    @atom said:

    how can you be o.k with it ? the defender lead with the crown of his helmet 

    had baker stayed upright he would have been hit lower. He started his slide late. In real time i thought for sure penalty but when they replsyed it, like i said i dont want qb's that coddled. 

  • @atom said:

    how can you be o.k with it ? the defender lead with the crown of his helmet 

    had baker stayed upright he would have been hit lower. He started his slide late. In real time i thought for sure penalty but when they replsyed it, like i said i dont want qb's that coddled. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    had baker stayed upright he would have been hit lower. He started his slide late. In real time i thought for sure penalty but when they replsyed it, like i said i dont want qb's that coddled. 

    Too late for that.    Just see the penalty that was called on Mahomes last night when he didn't even fall down from it.

  • @atom said:

    how can you be o.k with it ? the defender lead with the crown of his helmet 

    had baker stayed upright he would have been hit lower. He started his slide late. In real time i thought for sure penalty but when they replsyed it, like i said i dont want qb's that coddled. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    had baker stayed upright he would have been hit lower. He started his slide late. In real time i thought for sure penalty but when they replsyed it, like i said i dont want qb's that coddled. 

    but the rule is a defender may not lower the crown of his helmet and that go's for any player,,so again i asked how could you or anyone for that matter be o.k with that

  • This Atom fella is a lot smarter than syd ever was...

  • @clevfan4life said:

    had baker stayed upright he would have been hit lower. He started his slide late. In real time i thought for sure penalty but when they replsyed it, like i said i dont want qb's that coddled. 

    but the rule is a defender may not lower the crown of his helmet and that go's for any player,,so again i asked how could you or anyone for that matter be o.k with that

    @atom said:

    but the rule is a defender may not lower the crown of his helmet and that go's for any player,,so again i asked how could you or anyone for that matter be o.k with that

    goes against the "heads up" tackling technique the NFL is trying to enforce.  Both players are lucky to walk away from that hit with no injuries.  It's frustrating when the NFL is so inconsistent with their calls, getting ridiculous now.  

  • IMO the most disturbing part of it all is that despite the official closest to the hit throwing his flag - the referee over-ruling him and waiving it off started that play positioned in our backfield 5-7 yards behind Baker and didn't move downfield until after Baker crossed the LOS.  Not only that, when Baker crossed from 1 side of the field to the other - the Referee that is trailing the action looks for blocks in the back and holding on all the pursuit also crossing from 1 side to the other.  In other words, there were a lot of obstructions and distractions for the Ref to see through in order to have a superior view that would enable him to waive off the flag.

    Now, add the hit Garrett had on the 260 lb Roethlisberger OUTSIDE of the pocket which gave them a first and goal inside our 5 yard line instead of the FG they should have had.   They got a TD from it instead of just 3 points in a game that went into OT.   Over the years, how many times has Roethlisberger broken arm tackles outside of the pocket run or pass?    

    There's 2 of our OT games where the BAD calls went against this team coming off an 0-16 season where bullshitt apologies mean nothing more than "it's only the Cleveland Browns."  Until I see otherwise from this league - they don't give me too many reasons to feel otherwise.  Please spare me the lectures of all teams get bad calls against them because it's not nearly as frequent as this team takes it up the dumpster from them.  They also made sure they weren't going to allow Derek Carr's fumble that would have provided the game over knockout punch.  There's 3 wins they've taken from our players IMO.

  • Guys, let’s face it, the NFL and it’s officiating is BS. Just gotta roll with the punches and overcome.

  • Guys, let’s face it, the NFL and it’s officiating is BS. Just gotta roll with the punches and overcome.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Guys, let’s face it, the NFL and it’s officiating is BS. Just gotta roll with the punches and overcome.

    When these players are working hard to be thought of as something better than the 0-16 record many in this country still see them as - it sure would have been nice if Garrett's hit on Ben outside of the pocket didn't get flagged (ultimately giving Pitt a TD instead of the FG they would have settled on).  That's a 4 point swing on a game that wouldn't have required OT.  It would have been just as nice if the Referee didn't over rule the official not only in better position of the hit but also exhibiting better understanding of what is supposed to be a HUGE priority to enforce.  Instead, it sure seems like officiating crews are still defaulting to "it's only the Cleveland Browns that never make the playoffs anyway."  I wish I could feel different but there's also the Derek Carr fumble which would have been the knockout punch that would ended the comeback.  That's 3 wins I count taken out of this team's hands.  YES, all teams have bad calls go against them but none of them are coming off an 0-16 football season in terms of ability to overcome that. 

  • Guys, let’s face it, the NFL and it’s officiating is BS. Just gotta roll with the punches and overcome.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Guys, let’s face it, the NFL and it’s officiating is BS. Just gotta roll with the punches and overcome.

    With all due respect, I don't think we should keep rolling with it.  The glass chin they keep shattering is knocking us out more so than our opponents are able to.  If that's not a problem worth fighting - we're all wasting serious time following this league.   The league seems to care more about pleasing customers in England and Mexico City than long time fans/customers like us and player safety of our 1st overall investment.  Somebody at the top of our organization needs to show us he has 2 testicles here with a video collage of specific examples the refs boning us up the asss without the vaseline. 

  • Baker will end up damaged...he is already taking too many hits.   And his ankle is dinged.

    Its wash rinse repeat of every other qb we have had the last 10 years

  • I've tried to stop complaining about the refs..but I suck at it..The NFL attorneys wrote the true intentions of the rules after the rules committee/Players Union never really agreed to them..The ink has dried.So they can't fix them once in place till next start of league meetings."If" So they have pushed it down to the refs to figure it out.Pushing player safety first.Problem is imo, they made more rules to the ones they already had in place.never a good idea and some never knew those rules. Some refs retired seeing this coming. Now the confusion lies "what is the right call of option a,b or c" and TV Replay judges are not helping any of this with fans..As a fan, most blame the man we see blowing the whistles..but somebody wrote that rule into the rulebook,Where's that Guy? President Alberto Riveron..also first year on the job 🤔   

  • This has nothing to do with whether or not its a QB, if he slid etc. It was clearly targeting. BS no call and will end up in an apology this week. fck the officials

  • The ref actually said “a runner is allowed to be hit in the head” 

    Is that true?! 

  • The ref actually said “a runner is allowed to be hit in the head” 

    Is that true?! 

    @londonbrown said:

    The ref actually said “a runner is allowed to be hit in the head” 

    Is that true?! 

    NO