Josh Gordon Traded to Pats
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Again, we are floating fantasy and narrative.
Bernie Kosar is an expert on Belichik? AH, yeah, right. Every disgruntled employee who got fired is the REAL EXPERT on things.What is Kosar's job title now? WHo is it that listens to him? Oh, yeah, Browns fans, some of them. THat's it. C'mon man, Bernie isn't an authority on anything.
Look, all this crap about what Gordon did at the Browns is NOT a reinforcement of getting rid of him. It doesn't matter what a person did in their past life, it is all about what they do NOW. As much as you guys hate this contrary opinion, should Gordon play a large part in the Pats 2018 success, the media and public are going to grill Dorsey and the Browns for not being a quality franchise that can develop and groom their own players. Say all you want about Gordon, and I don't disagree that he was a headache for us, but you also have to ask yourself why do the Browns keep serving as a supplier of talent to other teams?
Browns fans have this ridiculous, self-smug attitude of " screw that guy, he wasn't the right fit for us". So who is? Yeah, all the guys that nobody wants. Great roster we have! Our guys suck, but at least we like them. If Jim Brown was drafted for the 2018 season, Browns fans would be slamming him as being too militant and too much of a troublemaker.
Now, to Hoorta, in YOUR mind, Gordon playing big for Belichik doesn't reflect on the Browns as another embarrassing failure. But to the media and the fans of the other 31 teams? Sorry dude, Gordon plays big - Cleveland is again a laughing stock. This continues to be a trademark of the Cleveland franchise, and it continues to be a contributing factor to why this team sucks.
What will you say about Garrett should he choose greener pastures?
Again, we are floating fantasy and narrative.
Bernie Kosar is an expert on Belichik? AH, yeah, right. Every disgruntled employee who got fired is the REAL EXPERT on things.What is Kosar's job title now? WHo is it that listens to him? Oh, yeah, Browns fans, some of them. THat's it. C'mon man, Bernie isn't an authority on anything.......
WHAT?
WHOA, again you're dead wrong I'm talking about late in the 4th quarter and you''re on a drive and a timeout and you can't find your HC and you look around and he's over talking with the "D".
Young BB wasn't a polished NFL HC or professional cheater......yet.
And Bernie was a very good quarterback even young graduating early from Miami and going right into the BROWNS organization.
But don't let any facts get in the way of your usual king bs.
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Time for another chapter of "gool the fool"......it's EASY just look at almost anything he throws up.
Posted September 6
On 9/6/2018 at 7:54 PM, Ghoolie said:
You really have no ability to read and comprehend, do you? No matter what reality is, you are going to believe the childish bullschidt narrative that you insist is true.Look dumb fukck, and really, you are a dumb fukck. I HATE THIS FUKCING FRANCHISE BECAUSE IT IS A LIE. MY DISPOSITION HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TEAM LOSING OR NOT.
If they lose, I have something extra to rub in your face. If they win? I will be here reminding you that the wins have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CLEVELAND BROWNS. This franchise is an abomination.
The Cleveland Browns were moved to Baltimore. The day The Browns were renamed the Ravens is the day the historically correct Browns name died. This franchise is a joke. It will be a joke regarldess if they win, or not. To be a FRAK............... I would have to become a fan of the Fake Browns should they start winning. I won't. I will hate the caulksuckers whether they win or lose.
I AM A FAN OF ALL 13............................................ I AM A FAN OF ALL 13
A reply: No one cares about your opinion or your feelings about the Browns are any other Shmucking thing. Sincerely Yours your only friend on this board TG
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Again, we are floating fantasy and narrative.
Bernie Kosar is an expert on Belichik? AH, yeah, right. Every disgruntled employee who got fired is the REAL EXPERT on things.What is Kosar's job title now? WHo is it that listens to him? Oh, yeah, Browns fans, some of them. THat's it. C'mon man, Bernie isn't an authority on anything.
Look, all this crap about what Gordon did at the Browns is NOT a reinforcement of getting rid of him. It doesn't matter what a person did in their past life, it is all about what they do NOW. As much as you guys hate this contrary opinion, should Gordon play a large part in the Pats 2018 success, the media and public are going to grill Dorsey and the Browns for not being a quality franchise that can develop and groom their own players. Say all you want about Gordon, and I don't disagree that he was a headache for us, but you also have to ask yourself why do the Browns keep serving as a supplier of talent to other teams?
Browns fans have this ridiculous, self-smug attitude of " screw that guy, he wasn't the right fit for us". So who is? Yeah, all the guys that nobody wants. Great roster we have! Our guys suck, but at least we like them. If Jim Brown was drafted for the 2018 season, Browns fans would be slamming him as being too militant and too much of a troublemaker.
Now, to Hoorta, in YOUR mind, Gordon playing big for Belichik doesn't reflect on the Browns as another embarrassing failure. But to the media and the fans of the other 31 teams? Sorry dude, Gordon plays big - Cleveland is again a laughing stock. This continues to be a trademark of the Cleveland franchise, and it continues to be a contributing factor to why this team sucks.
What will you say about Garrett should he choose greener pastures?
Now, to Hoorta, in YOUR mind, Gordon playing big for Belichik doesn't reflect on the Browns as another embarrassing failure. But to the media and the fans of the other 31 teams? Sorry dude, Gordon plays big - Cleveland is again a laughing stock. This continues to be a trademark of the Cleveland franchise, and it continues to be a contributing factor to why this team sucks.
What will you say about Garrett should he choose greener pastures?
The workplace analogy is having a highly talented employee who shows up 1\2 the time, and when he does, he's drunk or stoned. Other workers are getting pissed off he's getting special treatment. For the good of the workplace if you're the boss, you have to tell the guy to take a hike, because you can't be sure if the guy is going to show up for that important meeting or project. Can't predict the future, but if Gordon gets popped for a failed drug test- Dorsey is going to look like a genius. Gordon's drug history is why we had to sell low. Look, this crap had been going on for years, Josh had it clearly spelled out what he had to do to be part of the Browns, and for whatever reason- he couldn't do it. Look Mr. Corporate Genius- when Gordon came back from skipping training camp- he was obviously in a zero tolerance mode from management. He knew it, and he knew he blew it. Guess his attitude was- and he even Tweeted about it- "I'm so talented, someone is going to take a chance on me regardless". Belichick has a history of reforming malcontents, Moss, Corey Dillon, and now Josh. We'll see.
Regarding Garrett, you're reading too much into that video he made. Winning will cure everyone's attitude. BTW regarding Myles, we have him locked up until the 2021 season, make that 2022 if we franchise him. And if he leaves? So did Suh and Fairley walk away from the Lions when they had the chance- just one of many guys who wanted out for greener pastures and more money.
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The Pat's have a long-established, team culture that gives Josh his best chance for success.
We don't...
... and neither does at least 28 other teams.
Only others I can think of that do are: KC, PHI and maybe MN, and of those, only the KC culture approaches being "long-established."
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Again, we are floating fantasy and narrative.
Bernie Kosar is an expert on Belichik? AH, yeah, right. Every disgruntled employee who got fired is the REAL EXPERT on things.What is Kosar's job title now? WHo is it that listens to him? Oh, yeah, Browns fans, some of them. THat's it. C'mon man, Bernie isn't an authority on anything.
Look, all this crap about what Gordon did at the Browns is NOT a reinforcement of getting rid of him. It doesn't matter what a person did in their past life, it is all about what they do NOW. As much as you guys hate this contrary opinion, should Gordon play a large part in the Pats 2018 success, the media and public are going to grill Dorsey and the Browns for not being a quality franchise that can develop and groom their own players. Say all you want about Gordon, and I don't disagree that he was a headache for us, but you also have to ask yourself why do the Browns keep serving as a supplier of talent to other teams?
Browns fans have this ridiculous, self-smug attitude of " screw that guy, he wasn't the right fit for us". So who is? Yeah, all the guys that nobody wants. Great roster we have! Our guys suck, but at least we like them. If Jim Brown was drafted for the 2018 season, Browns fans would be slamming him as being too militant and too much of a troublemaker.
Now, to Hoorta, in YOUR mind, Gordon playing big for Belichik doesn't reflect on the Browns as another embarrassing failure. But to the media and the fans of the other 31 teams? Sorry dude, Gordon plays big - Cleveland is again a laughing stock. This continues to be a trademark of the Cleveland franchise, and it continues to be a contributing factor to why this team sucks.
What will you say about Garrett should he choose greener pastures?
Look, all this crap about what Gordon did at the Browns is NOT a reinforcement of getting rid of him. It doesn't matter what a person did in their past life, it is all about what they do NOW.
....and the 'NOW' was when they finally had enough of him. 6 years dude! And when FINALLY he can join the team....HE DOESN'T. And STILL trying to be understanding the Browns waited for him to come to training camp. He FINALLY DOES join camp and immediately claim 'hamstring'. THEN he comes to a meeting late and looking stoned or something. - Then was 6 years worth of bullcrap leading up to the NOW...when they announced they would be releasing him.
They HAD to do what they did. You can't have a player acting like that and keep a team together. - You teach, that what you tolerate, is acceptable behavior. - If HE can do it. So can I. Why should I come to camp on time? Meetings on time? etc.
Now, what he does AFTER being released (traded) is not the cause or the fault of the Browns, Dorsey, or the water boy.
Might certain media make us out to be fools? For doing what was actually the right thing to do at the time? Is that what controls how you run your football team?
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Look, all this crap about what Gordon did at the Browns is NOT a reinforcement of getting rid of him. It doesn't matter what a person did in their past life, it is all about what they do NOW.
....and the 'NOW' was when they finally had enough of him. 6 years dude! And when FINALLY he can join the team....HE DOESN'T. And STILL trying to be understanding the Browns waited for him to come to training camp. He FINALLY DOES join camp and immediately claim 'hamstring'. THEN he comes to a meeting late and looking stoned or something. - Then was 6 years worth of bullcrap leading up to the NOW...when they announced they would be releasing him.
They HAD to do what they did. You can't have a player acting like that and keep a team together. - You teach, that what you tolerate, is acceptable behavior. - If HE can do it. So can I. Why should I come to camp on time? Meetings on time? etc.
Now, what he does AFTER being released (traded) is not the cause or the fault of the Browns, Dorsey, or the water boy.
Might certain media make us out to be fools? For doing what was actually the right thing to do at the time? Is that what controls how you run your football team?
....and the 'NOW' was when they finally had enough of him. 6 years dude! And when FINALLY he can join the team....HE DOESN'T. And STILL trying to be understanding the Browns waited for him to come to training camp. He FINALLY DOES join camp and immediately claim 'hamstring'. THEN he comes to a meeting late and looking stoned or something. - Then was 6 years worth of bullcrap leading up to the NOW...when they announced they would be releasing him.
They HAD to do what they did. You can't have a player acting like that and keep a team together. - You teach that what you tolerate, is acceptable behavior. - If HE can do it. So can I. Why should I come to camp on time? Meetings on time? etc.
Now, what he does AFTER being released (traded) is not the cause or the fault of the Browns, Dorsey, or the water boy.
Might certain media make us out to be fools? For doing what was actually the right thing to do at the time? Is that what controls how you run your football team?
Eggs-actly O. We don't know, and neither does Trollie- what happened when the Browns decided enough was enough with Josh. It had to be something serious or a cumulation of mis steps by Josh.
Actually it was twice Gordon having the opportunity to rejoin the Browns and something came up. It was time, and probably past time for the Browns to say- we don't care how good you are, you're just too much of a pain in the azz, and too f**king unreliable for us to keep you around anymore. We played the role of the understanding wife with a drunk husband far too long. If he's clean and sober now- in his lifetime that will be a first. Sometimes in a situation like that- it's exactly what the offending party needs to get his life straight.
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....and the 'NOW' was when they finally had enough of him. 6 years dude! And when FINALLY he can join the team....HE DOESN'T. And STILL trying to be understanding the Browns waited for him to come to training camp. He FINALLY DOES join camp and immediately claim 'hamstring'. THEN he comes to a meeting late and looking stoned or something. - Then was 6 years worth of bullcrap leading up to the NOW...when they announced they would be releasing him.
They HAD to do what they did. You can't have a player acting like that and keep a team together. - You teach that what you tolerate, is acceptable behavior. - If HE can do it. So can I. Why should I come to camp on time? Meetings on time? etc.
Now, what he does AFTER being released (traded) is not the cause or the fault of the Browns, Dorsey, or the water boy.
Might certain media make us out to be fools? For doing what was actually the right thing to do at the time? Is that what controls how you run your football team?
Eggs-actly O. We don't know, and neither does Trollie- what happened when the Browns decided enough was enough with Josh. It had to be something serious or a cumulation of mis steps by Josh.
Actually it was twice Gordon having the opportunity to rejoin the Browns and something came up. It was time, and probably past time for the Browns to say- we don't care how good you are, you're just too much of a pain in the azz, and too f**king unreliable for us to keep you around anymore. We played the role of the understanding wife with a drunk husband far too long. If he's clean and sober now- in his lifetime that will be a first. Sometimes in a situation like that- it's exactly what the offending party needs to get his life straight.
Eggs-actly O. We don't know, and neither does Trollie- what happened when the Browns decided enough was enough with Josh. It had to be something serious or a cumulation of mis steps by Josh.
Actually it was twice Gordon having the opportunity to rejoin the Browns and something came up. It was time, and probably past time for the Browns to say- we don't care how good you are, you're just too much of a pain in the azz, and too f**king unreliable for us to keep you around anymore. We played the role of the understanding wife with a drunk husband far too long. If he's clean and sober now- in his lifetime that will be a first. Sometimes in a situation like that- it's exactly what the offending party needs to get his life straight.
Just hope we didn't cut off our nose despite our face cuz I saw who Baker was throwing to last week...and yo.
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Eggs-actly O. We don't know, and neither does Trollie- what happened when the Browns decided enough was enough with Josh. It had to be something serious or a cumulation of mis steps by Josh.
Actually it was twice Gordon having the opportunity to rejoin the Browns and something came up. It was time, and probably past time for the Browns to say- we don't care how good you are, you're just too much of a pain in the azz, and too f**king unreliable for us to keep you around anymore. We played the role of the understanding wife with a drunk husband far too long. If he's clean and sober now- in his lifetime that will be a first. Sometimes in a situation like that- it's exactly what the offending party needs to get his life straight.
Just hope we didn't cut off our nose despite our face cuz I saw who Baker was throwing to last week...and yo.
Just hope we didn't cut off our nose despite our face cuz I saw who Baker was throwing to last week...and yo.
Of course the Browns knew Gordon could potentially revert to Pro-Bowl form. Our guys got hurt on top of that- it happens.
There's still some here who think because of what Gordon did back in 2013 he should get unlimited chances. Life in the NFL doesn't work that way. He'd still be here IF he was just able to follow team rules. Josh has no one to blame but himself. As some have posited, maybe he was trying to write his ticket out of town.
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It absolutely befuddles me that there are still people out there who will simply refuse to accept the fact that JOSH GORDON DID NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR THE BROWNS AND WOULD HAVE CONTINUED TO PULL STUNTS TO AVOID DOING SO.
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Bring in dez lol
I'm fine with Dez. I'd roll the dice if we can't get others to come.
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I'm fine with Dez. I'd roll the dice if we can't get others to come.
You may be fine with Dez- but apparently 32 NFL teams don't share your opinion....
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It absolutely befuddles me that there are still people out there who will simply refuse to accept the fact that JOSH GORDON DID NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR THE BROWNS AND WOULD HAVE CONTINUED TO PULL STUNTS TO AVOID DOING SO.
It absolutely befuddles me that there are still people out there who will simply refuse to accept the fact that JOSH GORDON DID NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR THE BROWNS AND WOULD HAVE CONTINUED TO PULL STUNTS TO AVOID DOING SO.
I swear I've read this before Mr. Oven.
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I'm fine with Dez. I'd roll the dice if we can't get others to come.
You may be fine with Dez- but apparently 32 NFL teams don't share your opinion....
You may be fine with Dez- but apparently 32 NFL teams don't share your opinion....
Wrong. Multiple teams offered him contracts. Including us.
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Wrong. Multiple teams offered him contracts. Including us.
AND he's still waiting by the phone- apparently willing to sit on his azz instead of take what teams are offering him. Sorry Dez, better announce your retirement.
Jiggins- it's too freaking late to bring this guy in. Best to drop the bring in a warm body syndrome. Shades of Kenny Britt wanting to cash in on one last payday. He obviously doesn't need the money- so why bring a guy in who might not be interested in putting in any effort. (And will claim a tweaked hammie so he doesn't even have to play).
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Wrong. Multiple teams offered him contracts. Including us.
AND he's still waiting by the phone- apparently willing to sit on his azz instead of take what teams are offering him. Sorry Dez, better announce your retirement.
Jiggins- it's too freaking late to bring this guy in. Best to drop the bring in a warm body syndrome. Shades of Kenny Britt wanting to cash in on one last payday. He obviously doesn't need the money- so why bring a guy in who might not be interested in putting in any effort. (And will claim a tweaked hammie so he doesn't even have to play).
AND he's still waiting by the phone- apparently willing to sit on his azz instead of take what teams are offering him. Sorry Dez, better announce your retirement.
Jiggins- it's too freaking late to bring this guy in. Best to drop the bring in a warm body syndrome. Shades of Kenny Britt wanting to cash in on one last payday. He obviously doesn't need the money- so why bring a guy in who might not be interested in putting in any effort. (And will claim a tweaked hammie so he doesn't even have to play).
I know, that's why I said I'd take him if nobody ELSE was available. I can name several others I'd rather have, and I think Demetrius Thomas or Emmanuel Sanders have a legit chance of coming here. I don't believe Devante Parker will be a legit contender. He never wanted to come here anyway.
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.... can't fix 1-31 / 0-16 in one year, and all things considered, this year has been a big improvement on the watchability scale.
.... can't fix 1-31 / 0-16 in one year, and all things considered, this year has been a big improvement on the watchability scale.
Its not even close.
I have not fallen asleep yet during any Browns games this season. I'm not even trying to be funny, in the last few years I would doze off occasionally.
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