Haslam is the Problem
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Clown.
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was nassib really costing us anything?
was nassib really costing us anything?
Carl Nassib signed a 4 year, $3,598,862 contract with the Cleveland Browns, including a $889,752 signing bonus, $889,752 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $899,716. In 2018, Nassib will earn a base salary of$773,000, while carrying a cap hit of $773,000.
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So you don't like Haslam's hiring of Dorsey?
Nor the subsequent hirings of Highsmith and Wolf?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
was nassib really costing us anything?
Carl Nassib signed a 4 year, $3,598,862 contract with the Cleveland Browns, including a $889,752 signing bonus, $889,752 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $899,716. In 2018, Nassib will earn a base salary of$773,000, while carrying a cap hit of $773,000.
Carl Nassib signed a 4 year, $3,598,862 contract with the Cleveland Browns, including a $889,752 signing bonus, $889,752 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $899,716. In 2018, Nassib will earn a base salary of$773,000, while carrying a cap hit of $773,000.
So no.... Well there goes the moneyball excuse for him.
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Haslam is a slimy pile of Sheet we know that. And finally last year the fans stopped going to the games and Dorsey was hired. This is the first year with him and his resume speaks for its self. Breath and relax. The browns won no games last year and with a few calls being enforced correctly they would have 4 or 5 wins. I would say Dorsey will get some players at the dead line if they can not only help now but in the future I trust him to do the right thing.
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we just need a new owner
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I don’t believe that Haslam has stopped spending ever. His biggest issue early on was meddling in personnel and he learned from it. I believe if a $50M stud was available he’d green light it in a heartbeat. His hair trigger firing may have swung a bit to far but overall Haslam is nowhere near the top of our issues list. We have some coaching and execution issues for sure. I hope we bring some help Monday, especially a WR and O line!!The biggest thing right now is that many fans (self included) got caught up in the hype and expected to much from our formerly 0-16 team. We’ve won a couple, tied one and took 4 teams to OT. We’ve had horrible games and exciting games. Such is the process with a young team. Whether we fire a coach or not we are going to have more exciting games, more wins and also more stinkers.
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So you don't like Haslam's hiring of Dorsey?
Nor the subsequent hirings of Highsmith and Wolf?
So you don't like Haslam's hiring of Dorsey?
Nor the subsequent hirings of Highsmith and Wolf?
I stated that I like Dorsey tour, but I feel as if Jimmy is acting Jerry Jones-esque at times.
Maybe he's not, and I could be completely wrong, but that's what I believe.
The big question for me, is when will we not lead the league in having lowest salary cap?
Will we have lowest salary cap for the next 10 years? and If so, If we don't have a winning season in the next ten years, could that be related.
and Lastly, how is it a good thing for us to have the lowest salary cap in the league year after year?
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The Browns completely tore this franchise down to the studs prior to the 2016 season. Over the last few seasons the overwhelming majority of the team was made up rookies or second year players. Players that tend to be relatively cheap. Dorsey recently admitted that the team is still in the rebuilding phase.
Name me one team in any sport that spent a good amount of money on their payroll during a complete rebuild of their franchise. Do you want me to post the payrolls of the 2013-2015 Houston Astros?
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So you don't like Haslam's hiring of Dorsey?
Nor the subsequent hirings of Highsmith and Wolf?
So you don't like Haslam's hiring of Dorsey?
Nor the subsequent hirings of Highsmith and Wolf?
Well, you certainly can questions some of Dorsey's moves- especially unloading Hyde. In part- today we've seen what happens when Duke got hurt.
Short of it today- OL looked like crap, Garrett for the most part got contained, and we had no answer for Connor- again.
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Ummmm.... no....
Yeah that Jimmy is a real tightwad. NOT!!!! From Wiki.... for the short attention spans....
"In 2013, Browns owner Jimmy Haslam announced a modernization project for FirstEnergy Stadium. The project included two phases that took place during the NFL offseasons in 2014 and 2015. Phase one included improving the audio system, installing new scoreboards three times the size of the original scoreboards and at the time the 4th largest in a NFL stadium, and adding more seats to the lower bowl. Phase two included concession improvements, upgrades to technology connectivity, graphics throughout the stadium, and enhancing the premium suites. The renovations reduced the stadium's capacity to approximately 68,000. The total cost of the renovations was estimated at $120 million with the city of Cleveland paying $30 million over 15 years and the Browns covering the rest of the cost."
Meaning Haslam is dumping $90 million of his own money into the stadium- that he didn't have to. So those thinking he's on an economy kick regarding the Browns payroll are full of s**t.
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The "boss" needs to adress this simking ship. Dont ask what needs to be said, but leadership from the very top is whats necessary right now. Would be better if the owner was actually from the area and a long time fan but whatever.....jimmy needs to take some personal action like tommorrow morning. And no judt firing some jokers to bring in some new jokers isnt gonna cut it
The "boss" needs to adress this simking ship. Dont ask what needs to be said, but leadership from the very top is whats necessary right now. Would be better if the owner was actually from the area and a long time fan but whatever.....jimmy needs to take some personal action like tommorrow morning. And no judt firing some jokers to bring in some new jokers isnt gonna cut it
i know clevefan....but what would he say because he does not know the first thing about the game....
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I miss Joe Thomas out there
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The "boss" needs to adress this simking ship. Dont ask what needs to be said, but leadership from the very top is whats necessary right now. Would be better if the owner was actually from the area and a long time fan but whatever.....jimmy needs to take some personal action like tommorrow morning. And no judt firing some jokers to bring in some new jokers isnt gonna cut it
i know clevefan....but what would he say because he does not know the first thing about the game....
i know clevefan....but what would he say because he does not know the first thing about the game....
and thsts why we need a new owner.
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and thsts why we need a new owner.
You may as well pick a new team to root for if you think Haslam is selling out anytime soon.
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Dumping money into the stadium could be Haslam's idea of ensuring his cashflow.. that people pay to watch the games even if the team stinks.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
And a free agent spending spree is NOT the way to be competitive -- that's the Dallas model and they've shown their ceiling even if hitting on those 1st-rounders.. to be a first-round exit.
You have to have a plan and execute that plan, whether it's easy or not.
Note that Dallas' QB actually stinks whereas Baker is at his worst the best QB we've had since re-entering the league.
Note that Jamie Collins is performing at a 59.2 rating this season -- he's frankly wildly overpaid based on his actual productivity. At least that 59 is more than 20 points higher than his overall grade last season of 35.. so he's back to league average!
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
So you don't like Haslam's hiring of Dorsey?
Nor the subsequent hirings of Highsmith and Wolf?
I stated that I like Dorsey tour, but I feel as if Jimmy is acting Jerry Jones-esque at times.
Maybe he's not, and I could be completely wrong, but that's what I believe.
The big question for me, is when will we not lead the league in having lowest salary cap?
Will we have lowest salary cap for the next 10 years? and If so, If we don't have a winning season in the next ten years, could that be related.
and Lastly, how is it a good thing for us to have the lowest salary cap in the league year after year?
I stated that I like Dorsey tour, but I feel as if Jimmy is acting Jerry Jones-esque at times.
Maybe he's not, and I could be completely wrong, but that's what I believe.
The big question for me, is when will we not lead the league in having lowest salary cap?
Will we have lowest salary cap for the next 10 years? and If so, If we don't have a winning season in the next ten years, could that be related.
and Lastly, how is it a good thing for us to have the lowest salary cap in the league year after year?
Regarding the BOLD, you're not thinking down the road. Let's just take three guys we have now, and do a little projecting, assuming they all turn out at a pro bowl level. When they come off their rookie deals, how much you think Garrett, Mayfield and Ward would command on the open market? Enough to eat 1\2 of the cap? Huh?
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Dumping money into the stadium could be Haslam's idea of ensuring his cashflow.. that people pay to watch the games even if the team stinks.
Dumping money into the stadium could be Haslam's idea of ensuring his cashflow.. that people pay to watch the games even if the team stinks.
You missed the point. Stadium revenue is a nice perk for the owners- but it's not their major source of revenue. That's TV contracts, FYI. Starting with off the top of my head, the $4 billion Directv pays the NFL for exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket.
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