Haslam is the Problem
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Duey, the only Donald Duck nephew left.....after Huey and Luey canned in the last 2 days.
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Duey, the only Donald Duck nephew left.....after Huey and Luey canned in the last 2 days.
Duey, the only Donald Duck nephew left.....after Huey and Luey canned in the last 2 days.
Need to start a thread Gip. The Hue hatahs get their wish.
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Duey, the only Donald Duck nephew left.....after Huey and Luey canned in the last 2 days.
Need to start a thread Gip. The Hue hatahs get their wish.
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Haslam is drinking a Blue Moon or Shock Top at the press conference
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And a free agent spending spree is NOT the way to be competitive -- that's the Dallas model and they've shown their ceiling even if hitting on those 1st-rounders.. to be a first-round exit.
You have to have a plan and execute that plan, whether it's easy or not.
Note that Dallas' QB actually stinks whereas Baker is at his worst the best QB we've had since re-entering the league.
Note that Jamie Collins is performing at a 59.2 rating this season -- he's frankly wildly overpaid based on his actual productivity. At least that 59 is more than 20 points higher than his overall grade last season of 35.. so he's back to league average!
Well obviously what we're doing is not the way to be competitive. Just because something worked for someone else doesn't mean it'll work for us, or it won't.
We really don't know Jimmy and Dorsey's plan. I'm not sure if Dorsey is a yes man, or if Jimmy is still doing moneyball with Depo there.
Maybe it's good to trade one vet like Jamie Collins. But can you really argue that we should trade all vets? Like Hyde, Gordon, and the rumors that even Devalve is on the trade block with Collins too. How will all of these youngsters feel if all the vets are traded? How will the coordinators be confident we can win any games with practice squad players playing?
Or are we just tanking? That has to be the case, or Hue wouldn't of said he doesn't feel pressured ever to win right now by Jimmy.
If this 5 year moneyball plan was to tank for two years, and then win 3-7 games and trade all of the vets for fifth rounders, then it's surely working the right way.
Baker is good, but the guys blocking him will get him murdered. Who did we replace Joe Thomas with again?
Well obviously what we're doing is not the way to be competitive. Just because something worked for someone else doesn't mean it'll work for us, or it won't.
We really don't know Jimmy and Dorsey's plan. I'm not sure if Dorsey is a yes man, or if Jimmy is still doing moneyball with Depo there.
Maybe it's good to trade one vet like Jamie Collins. But can you really argue that we should trade all vets? Like Hyde, Gordon, and the rumors that even Devalve is on the trade block with Collins too. How will all of these youngsters feel if all the vets are traded? How will the coordinators be confident we can win any games with practice squad players playing?
Or are we just tanking? That has to be the case, or Hue wouldn't of said he doesn't feel pressured ever to win right now by Jimmy.
If this 5 year moneyball plan was to tank for two years, and then win 3-7 games and trade all of the vets for fifth rounders, then it's surely working the right way.
Baker is good, but the guys blocking him will get him murdered. Who did we replace Joe Thomas with again?
If you watched the press conference, Dorsey said the moves they're making are to make the team better. So with 20\20 hindsight unloading Hyde was a move to get Chubb more work. John forced Hue and Haley's hand- take your pick which one. They (meaning the FO) isn't throwing in the towel this year. They want to win and to their mind(s) unloading Hue and Haley was addition by subtraction.
i said it before.....josh gordon situation really screwed us because it looks like he is returning to what he used to be yrs ago....he would have made all our other wr's look better because, lets face it...landry is not a future hof'er ......he is not even a number 1 wideout in this league...but i think he would have been a little more productive with gordon drawing alot of attention from the db's....oh well....that's the way it goes in good ole clown town...
Josh Gordon listed as "questionable" for tonight's game. As Teddy Bruschi said "the best ability is availability". Gordon was "unavailable" to the Browns for over 1\2 his stay in Cleveland.
Haslam is drinking a Blue Moon or Shock Top at the press conference
I would too, if you're a manager it's a tough job to tell someone you're fired.
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Well obviously what we're doing is not the way to be competitive. Just because something worked for someone else doesn't mean it'll work for us, or it won't.
We really don't know Jimmy and Dorsey's plan. I'm not sure if Dorsey is a yes man, or if Jimmy is still doing moneyball with Depo there.
Maybe it's good to trade one vet like Jamie Collins. But can you really argue that we should trade all vets? Like Hyde, Gordon, and the rumors that even Devalve is on the trade block with Collins too. How will all of these youngsters feel if all the vets are traded? How will the coordinators be confident we can win any games with practice squad players playing?
Or are we just tanking? That has to be the case, or Hue wouldn't of said he doesn't feel pressured ever to win right now by Jimmy.
If this 5 year moneyball plan was to tank for two years, and then win 3-7 games and trade all of the vets for fifth rounders, then it's surely working the right way.
Baker is good, but the guys blocking him will get him murdered. Who did we replace Joe Thomas with again?
If you watched the press conference, Dorsey said the moves they're making are to make the team better. So with 20\20 hindsight unloading Hyde was a move to get Chubb more work. John forced Hue and Haley's hand- take your pick which one. They (meaning the FO) isn't throwing in the towel this year. They want to win and to their mind(s) unloading Hue and Haley was addition by subtraction.
i said it before.....josh gordon situation really screwed us because it looks like he is returning to what he used to be yrs ago....he would have made all our other wr's look better because, lets face it...landry is not a future hof'er ......he is not even a number 1 wideout in this league...but i think he would have been a little more productive with gordon drawing alot of attention from the db's....oh well....that's the way it goes in good ole clown town...
Josh Gordon listed as "questionable" for tonight's game. As Teddy Bruschi said "the best ability is availability". Gordon was "unavailable" to the Browns for over 1\2 his stay in Cleveland.
Haslam is drinking a Blue Moon or Shock Top at the press conference
I would too, if you're a manager it's a tough job to tell someone you're fired.
If you watched the press conference, Dorsey said the moves they're making are to make the team better. So with 20\20 hindsight unloading Hyde was a move to get Chubb more work. John forced Hue and Haley's hand. They (meaning the FO) isn't throwing in the towel this year. They want to win and to their mind(s) unloading Hue and Haley was addition by subtraction.
Josh Gordon listed as "questionable" for tonight's game. As Teddy Bruschi said "the best ability is availability". Gordon was "unavailable" to the Browns for over 1\2 his stay in Cleveland.
I would too, if you're a manager it's a tough job to tell someone you're fired.
questionable means he will probably play some....but they are playing the bills so it probably would be a smart thing to rest him....to your point i believe he is available and not unavailable but the pats are smart because they can smack the bills around without him...
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If you watched the press conference, Dorsey said the moves they're making are to make the team better. So with 20\20 hindsight unloading Hyde was a move to get Chubb more work. John forced Hue and Haley's hand. They (meaning the FO) isn't throwing in the towel this year. They want to win and to their mind(s) unloading Hue and Haley was addition by subtraction.
Josh Gordon listed as "questionable" for tonight's game. As Teddy Bruschi said "the best ability is availability". Gordon was "unavailable" to the Browns for over 1\2 his stay in Cleveland.
I would too, if you're a manager it's a tough job to tell someone you're fired.
questionable means he will probably play some....but they are playing the bills so it probably would be a smart thing to rest him....to your point i believe he is available and not unavailable but the pats are smart because they can smack the bills around without him...
questionable means he will probably play some....but they are playing the bills so it probably would be a smart thing to rest him....to your point i believe he is available and not unavailable but the pats are smart because they can smack the bills around without him...
Gordon has been suspended and fined for 1 quarter of tonights game due to tardiness. Dude would fuck up a wet dream.
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Haslam is drinking a Blue Moon or Shock Top at the press conference
People our age don't drink that vomit tasting Blue Moon.
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How could you tell what it was? It just looked like orange emergen-C..
Regardless, I completely understand his desire to be somewhat intoxicated on a day like this.
What I saw from Haslam? He CARES and he wants to win.
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How could you tell what it was? It just looked like orange emergen-C..
Regardless, I completely understand his desire to be somewhat intoxicated on a day like this.
What I saw from Haslam? He CARES and he wants to win.
How could you tell what it was? It just looked like orange emergen-C..
Regardless, I completely understand his desire to be somewhat intoxicated on a day like this.
What I saw from Haslam? He CARES and he wants to win.
I've said that many times. They don't give you an owner's manual when you buy an NFL team. Sure, he's made plenty of mistakes- to my mind only giving Chud one year as HC was one major one, and (probably) getting involved in bringing Johnny Football and his baggage to Cleveland.
But as me and Gipper will attest- he really does care about the fans. Few years ago Jimmy was at the Titans game and hung out for awhile at the Middle Tennessee Browns Backers Tailgate. He was at that pregame bash over in London too. How many owners would do that?
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questionable means he will probably play some....but they are playing the bills so it probably would be a smart thing to rest him....to your point i believe he is available and not unavailable but the pats are smart because they can smack the bills around without him...
Gordon has been suspended and fined for 1 quarter of tonights game due to tardiness. Dude would fuck up a wet dream.
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Dumping money into the stadium could be Haslam's idea of ensuring his cashflow.. that people pay to watch the games even if the team stinks.
Dumping money into the stadium could be Haslam's idea of ensuring his cashflow.. that people pay to watch the games even if the team stinks.
Because fans think, "I know the team is bad, but boy-o-boy the tile in the shitters sure is nice"???
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Dumping money into the stadium could be Haslam's idea of ensuring his cashflow.. that people pay to watch the games even if the team stinks.
Because fans think, "I know the team is bad, but boy-o-boy the tile in the shitters sure is nice"???
Because fans think, "I know the team is bad, but boy-o-boy the tile in the shitters sure is nice"???
Of course Jimmy knows the best way to keep the fans happy and the seats full- and be able to raise ticket prices (BTW the Browns have the lowest average price in the NFL) https://www.statista.com/statistics/193595/average-ticket-price-in-the-nfl-by-team/
IS TO START WINNING GAMES!
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I think we have to remember that our owner has had to grow in his role as well... and he started behind the 8-ball.
Remember, the league imposed some help upon the sale to him.
- Jimmah got the Browns and Mike Lombardi...
- Mike pursued Chip (Kelly)...
- We ended up with Chud(zinski).
So we were behind before we started.
Jimmah has made more mistakes to be sure, but he doesn't seem to make the same one twice...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
After listening to that abortion of a press conference, any reasonable person would have to conclude that Haslam is the problem. At this juncture, I wish he'd have gone down in the Pilot Flying J scandal and had the franchise yanked from him. I wouldn't let that silver spooned fool flip burgers at a McDonalds.
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I think we have to remember that our owner has had to grow in his role as well... and he started behind the 8-ball.
Remember, the league imposed some help upon the sale to him.
- Jimmah got the Browns and Mike Lombardi...
- Mike pursued Chip (Kelly)...
- We ended up with Chud(zinski).
So we were behind before we started.
Jimmah has made more mistakes to be sure, but he doesn't seem to make the same one twice...
I think we have to remember that our owner has had to grow in his role as well... and he started behind the 8-ball.
Remember, the league imposed some help upon the sale to him.
- Jimmah got the Browns and Mike Lombardi...
- Mike pursued Chip (Kelly)...
- We ended up with Chud(zinski).
So we were behind before we started.
Jimmah has made more mistakes to be sure, but he doesn't seem to make the same one twice...
He definitely learned to keep his draft input to a minimum. MHO is he hit it out of the park when he hired Dorsey. Now that John doesn't have the Huebatross circling above (something Jimmy mistakenly saddled him with, and learned- bad move) I think things will be looking up, now that the initial shock of today's moves is starting to wear off.
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After listening to that abortion of a press conference, any reasonable person would have to conclude that Haslam is the problem. At this juncture, I wish he'd have gone down in the Pilot Flying J scandal and had the franchise yanked from him. I wouldn't let that silver spooned fool flip burgers at a McDonalds.
After listening to that abortion of a press conference, any reasonable person would have to conclude that Haslam is the problem. At this juncture, I wish he'd have gone down in the Pilot Flying J scandal and had the franchise yanked from him. I wouldn't let that silver spooned fool flip burgers at a McDonalds.
Sorry if I don't agree, and I watched the whole thing. Pretty obvious Dorsey is going to be the decision maker from here on out- assuming we see improvement from the team. Not going to be easy with the Chiefs coming in on Sunday after the big shakeup today.
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Duey, the only Donald Duck nephew left.....after Huey and Luey canned in the last 2 days.
Duey, the only Donald Duck nephew left.....after Huey and Luey canned in the last 2 days.
I’ve been thinking that since Lue got the axe
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After listening to that abortion of a press conference, any reasonable person would have to conclude that Haslam is the problem. At this juncture, I wish he'd have gone down in the Pilot Flying J scandal and had the franchise yanked from him. I wouldn't let that silver spooned fool flip burgers at a McDonalds.
Sorry if I don't agree, and I watched the whole thing. Pretty obvious Dorsey is going to be the decision maker from here on out- assuming we see improvement from the team. Not going to be easy with the Chiefs coming in on Sunday after the big shakeup today.
Sorry if I don't agree, and I watched the whole thing. Pretty obvious Dorsey is going to be the decision maker from here on out- assuming we see improvement from the team. Not going to be easy with the Chiefs coming in on Sunday after the big shakeup today.
Larry, I absolutely agree with you. If Haslam were the problem moving forward, Hue would still be our HC. What I pulled from it is that JH will be in the loop, but Dorsey & staff will make the decisions.
Jimmy has made mistakes, but he also has attempted different ways of doing things to correct those things. I'm fine with Jimmy. I'll also say this..If I confided something in Jimmy, I feel I could walk away feeling I could trust in him honoring my confidence. I wouldn't trust Hue as far as I could throw hm.
Mike
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Sorry if I don't agree, and I watched the whole thing. Pretty obvious Dorsey is going to be the decision maker from here on out- assuming we see improvement from the team. Not going to be easy with the Chiefs coming in on Sunday after the big shakeup today.
Larry, I absolutely agree with you. If Haslam were the problem moving forward, Hue would still be our HC. What I pulled from it is that JH will be in the loop, but Dorsey & staff will make the decisions.
Jimmy has made mistakes, but he also has attempted different ways of doing things to correct those things. I'm fine with Jimmy. I'll also say this..If I confided something in Jimmy, I feel I could walk away feeling I could trust in him honoring my confidence. I wouldn't trust Hue as far as I could throw hm.
Mike
Larry, I absolutely agree with you. If Haslam were the problem moving forward, Hue would still be our HC. What I pulled from it is that JH will be in the loop, but Dorsey & staff will make the decisions.
Jimmy has made mistakes, but he also has attempted different ways of doing things to correct those things. I'm fine with Jimmy. I'll also say this..If I confided something in Jimmy, I feel I could walk away feeling I could trust in him honoring my confidence. I wouldn't trust Hue as far as I could throw hm.
Mike
Dude is a massive crook. I wouldn’t trust him with my Netflix password.
After he made the team draft Manziel he should have been forced to sell the team.
Everytime he talks he sounds like a politician. He didn’t answer a single question they asked him today.
Maybe if we are lucky he will get thrown in jail when they are hiring the next coach.
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