Candidates
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Vegas Odds on next coach
As cool as it would be to have two of my favorite Nebraska quarterbacks coaching both my college and pro teams, I would be pretty damn underwhelmed with Zac Taylor.
He has one season where he was named interim offensive coordinator with the Dolphins, when his father-in-law was the coach. Aside from that, his only coordinator experience is a one-year stint at Cincinnati (the college) in 2016.
I don’t care that Goff is the second coming of David this season, Taylor isn’t ready to be the Goliath in charge yet.
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Vegas Odds on next coach
As cool as it would be to have two of my favorite Nebraska quarterbacks coaching both my college and pro teams, I would be pretty damn underwhelmed with Zac Taylor.
He has one season where he was named interim offensive coordinator with the Dolphins, when his father-in-law was the coach. Aside from that, his only coordinator experience is a one-year stint at Cincinnati (the college) in 2016.
I don’t care that Goff is the second coming of David this season, Taylor isn’t ready to be the Goliath in charge yet.
As cool as it would be to have two of my favorite Nebraska quarterbacks coaching both my college and pro teams, I would be pretty damn underwhelmed with Zac Taylor.
He has one season where he was named interim offensive coordinator with the Dolphins, when his father-in-law was the coach. Aside from that, his only coordinator experience is a one-year stint at Cincinnati (the college) in 2016.
I don’t care that Goff is the second coming of David this season, Taylor isn’t ready to be the Goliath in charge yet.
No guarantees he's the guy or even if he would be a good HC, however go back and read the comments and opinions when the Rams hired McVay 2 seasons ago. No one had a clue who the dude was and thought the Rams were stupid.
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I get that Lincoln Riley screams Sean Mcvay clone, but the differences are stark as well. I'd want to see Riley start as an OC in the NFL at least a year before jumping head first into that situation.
Betting money IMO today would be Dave Toub in KC. It's not a "sexy" pick by any means but he's incredibly familiar with Dorsey and has done some great work in KC as well.
Betting money IMO today would be Dave Toub in KC. It's not a "sexy" pick by any means but he's incredibly familiar with Dorsey and has done some great work in KC as well.
If Dorsey could find a way to trade a LB to KC, say the likes of Jamie Collins to lock-up Toub? He might avoid the rush of waiting thru the playoffs..Toub has spent 17 seasons split up with Philly,Bears & KC..Toub spent 11 seasons at Missouri as strength/conditioning coach.(also needed).Andy Reid was the OL coach there too..He's not a NFL re-thread coach nor College hopeful. We have some talent.It's just not getting the upgraded techniques needed in the NFL..Toub carries enough league experience, like Nagy at Bears, that he could bring some much needed G00D position coaches along also.. colleges coaches? imo, they have a small list of position coaches teaching college techs not pro level//
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Don't bet on Harbaugh.
If he were to leave my team, I'd want him to come to my other team. He's literally they exact opposite of Hue.
But he ain't leaving
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Names for permanent job;
Dave Toub Special teams coach for Chiefs
Lincoln Riley.....HC of Oklahoma
I have said Munchak.....though no one else has mentioned him.
Name names here.
Names for permanent job;
Dave Toub Special teams coach for Chiefs
Lincoln Riley.....HC of Oklahoma
I have said Munchak.....though no one else has mentioned him.
Name names here.
I'd love:
Matt LaFleur
Eric Bieniemy
John DeFilippo
Zac Taylor
Mark Helfrich
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I get that Lincoln Riley screams Sean Mcvay clone, but the differences are stark as well. I'd want to see Riley start as an OC in the NFL at least a year before jumping head first into that situation.
Betting money IMO today would be Dave Toub in KC. It's not a "sexy" pick by any means but he's incredibly familiar with Dorsey and has done some great work in KC as well.
I get that Lincoln Riley screams Sean Mcvay clone, but the differences are stark as well. I'd want to see Riley start as an OC in the NFL at least a year before jumping head first into that situation.
lmao....Riley makes over 5 million a year now and is likely to bump up to 6.5-7 shortly if they make the playoff.....he proably wouldnt even take the Browns HC ob if offered. The idea that he is going to go from a perfect HC situation at OU to a coordinator job anywhere in the nfl is absurd.
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Betting money IMO today would be Dave Toub in KC. It's not a "sexy" pick by any means but he's incredibly familiar with Dorsey and has done some great work in KC as well.
If Dorsey could find a way to trade a LB to KC, say the likes of Jamie Collins to lock-up Toub? He might avoid the rush of waiting thru the playoffs..Toub has spent 17 seasons split up with Philly,Bears & KC..Toub spent 11 seasons at Missouri as strength/conditioning coach.(also needed).Andy Reid was the OL coach there too..He's not a NFL re-thread coach nor College hopeful. We have some talent.It's just not getting the upgraded techniques needed in the NFL..Toub carries enough league experience, like Nagy at Bears, that he could bring some much needed G00D position coaches along also.. colleges coaches? imo, they have a small list of position coaches teaching college techs not pro level//
If Dorsey could find a way to trade a LB to KC, say the likes of Jamie Collins to lock-up Toub? He might avoid the rush of waiting thru the playoffs..Toub has spent 17 seasons split up with Philly,Bears & KC..Toub spent 11 seasons at Missouri as strength/conditioning coach.(also needed).Andy Reid was the OL coach there too..He's not a NFL re-thread coach nor College hopeful. We have some talent.It's just not getting the upgraded techniques needed in the NFL..Toub carries enough league experience, like Nagy at Bears, that he could bring some much needed G00D position coaches along also.. colleges coaches? imo, they have a small list of position coaches teaching college techs not pro level//
Problem is- he's under contract with KC and any offer would be considered tampering at this point in the season... Now when the Chiefs are in Cleveland- and he's on the field- hey Dave you interested?
BTW, some of the posters here have already so soured on the Browns- they'd probably vote for the Homeless Guy as next coach.
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As cool as it would be to have two of my favorite Nebraska quarterbacks coaching both my college and pro teams, I would be pretty damn underwhelmed with Zac Taylor.
He has one season where he was named interim offensive coordinator with the Dolphins, when his father-in-law was the coach. Aside from that, his only coordinator experience is a one-year stint at Cincinnati (the college) in 2016.
I don’t care that Goff is the second coming of David this season, Taylor isn’t ready to be the Goliath in charge yet.
No guarantees he's the guy or even if he would be a good HC, however go back and read the comments and opinions when the Rams hired McVay 2 seasons ago. No one had a clue who the dude was and thought the Rams were stupid.
No guarantees he's the guy or even if he would be a good HC, however go back and read the comments and opinions when the Rams hired McVay 2 seasons ago. No one had a clue who the dude was and thought the Rams were stupid.
I’m not saying he wouldn’t work, but I’d be a bit more skeptical than if it were someone with more coordinator experience.
I’m usually pretty happy to have my skepticism shattered.
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I get that Lincoln Riley screams Sean Mcvay clone, but the differences are stark as well. I'd want to see Riley start as an OC in the NFL at least a year before jumping head first into that situation.
lmao....Riley makes over 5 million a year now and is likely to bump up to 6.5-7 shortly if they make the playoff.....he proably wouldnt even take the Browns HC ob if offered. The idea that he is going to go from a perfect HC situation at OU to a coordinator job anywhere in the nfl is absurd.
lmao....Riley makes over 5 million a year now and is likely to bump up to 6.5-7 shortly if they make the playoff.....he proably wouldnt even take the Browns HC ob if offered. The idea that he is going to go from a perfect HC situation at OU to a coordinator job anywhere in the nfl is absurd.
And tell me how or when I remotely said he would? I swear to God, some of you mofos just love posting dramatic crap because you love how panties feel bunched up in your butt.
Yes wise guy I understand he wouldn't take an OC job. I was simply stating that ideally I'd want to see Riley succeed offensively in the NFL like McVay did before taking the plunge. We've seen too many wonder coaches from the NCAA ranks (Chip Kelly anyone?) fall flat on their faces. I don't think the Browns can afford to take that risk.
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I get that Lincoln Riley screams Sean Mcvay clone, but the differences are stark as well. I'd want to see Riley start as an OC in the NFL at least a year before jumping head first into that situation.
lmao....Riley makes over 5 million a year now and is likely to bump up to 6.5-7 shortly if they make the playoff.....he proably wouldnt even take the Browns HC ob if offered. The idea that he is going to go from a perfect HC situation at OU to a coordinator job anywhere in the nfl is absurd.
lmao....Riley makes over 5 million a year now and is likely to bump up to 6.5-7 shortly if they make the playoff.....he proably wouldnt even take the Browns HC ob if offered. The idea that he is going to go from a perfect HC situation at OU to a coordinator job anywhere in the nfl is absurd.
Riley is like 40 years old and making $5 million a year at a powerhouse program. He'd be a FOOL to leave if you ask me. The only thing is, many times coaches dream of going to the pros. Sometimes that dream, and the prestige of coaching in the big leagues, outweighs logic.
But you're right, it'd be absurd if he left. I know I wouldn't!
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I know that a "retread" is not the preferred way to go around here, but lets make note of the fact that a few of the HCs in the NFL who ARE considered at the top of their game indeed have been "retreads":
Belichick, Andy Reid, Pete Carroll whose team is coming on strong,
Some other retreads are not doing so well currently...or are mediocre, or are just getting a program going:
John Gruden, Pat Shurmur, Doug Marrone,
So, to me, the answer is that we could possibly be just as successful with a retread as with a "new, young, hot" guy.
The NFL copycat league seems to currently be all about the New young hot guy......because of Sean McVay. But the fact of the matter is that teams that are currently successful are just as likely have had a retread coach bringing them that success.
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which regime was he again? Honestly I vaguely remember the name but have abs no idea when he was here. It's all a blur, like the QB's
which regime was he again? Honestly I vaguely remember the name but have abs no idea when he was here. It's all a blur, like the QB's
Flipper replaced Shanahan as OC in Pettine's 2nd season.
As cool as it would be to have two of my favorite Nebraska quarterbacks coaching both my college and pro teams, I would be pretty damn underwhelmed with Zac Taylor.
He has one season where he was named interim offensive coordinator with the Dolphins, when his father-in-law was the coach. Aside from that, his only coordinator experience is a one-year stint at Cincinnati (the college) in 2016.
I don’t care that Goff is the second coming of David this season, Taylor isn’t ready to be the Goliath in charge yet.
Agree... seems like too big of a jump.
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I just hope the next new head coach isn't currently a head coach or in a media role.
WTF difference does that make. I just hope the next coach can effing coach and can effing win.
D.i.c.k. Vermeil was in the media a long time...and came back and won a SB. As for "currently a HC" do you mean, like in college? I do doubt that the Browns will be hiring the HC of any other current HC of an NFL team.
What if BB said: I want to retire as HC of the NEP....in order to pursue becoming the HC of the CBs once again.
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"I knew that was coming," Riley said during his weekly news conference. "No, not right now. You sit here and answer these questions and I always want to be truthful. The truth for me is I love Oklahoma. I love coaching here. I love college football. I certainly don't have that itch right now. Don't know that I ever will.
"But I'm never going to be a guy that stands up here and says no way, no how with any of these things ever happening. I don't know that. But I know right now I could care less about the NFL."
Of course Riley is going to tell the press that right now, he is happy where he's at. Oklahoma has an outside chance of making the playoffs and they are in the middle of the season. Ask him how he feels once the college season is over. I'd bet he'd change his tune then. Not saying I want him here. But the above means nothing.
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I just hope the next new head coach isn't currently a head coach or in a media role.
WTF difference does that make. I just hope the next coach can effing coach and can effing win.
D.i.c.k. Vermeil was in the media a long time...and came back and won a SB. As for "currently a HC" do you mean, like in college? I do doubt that the Browns will be hiring the HC of any other current HC of an NFL team.
What if BB said: I want to retire as HC of the NEP....in order to pursue becoming the HC of the CBs once again.
WTF difference does that make. I just hope the next coach can effing coach and can effing win.
D.i.c.k. Vermeil was in the media a long time...and came back and won a SB. As for "currently a HC" do you mean, like in college? I do doubt that the Browns will be hiring the HC of any other current HC of an NFL team.
What if BB said: I want to retire as HC of the NEP....in order to pursue becoming the HC of the CBs once again.
The Phucking difference it makes is I don't want to see a regurgitated guy that couldn't cut it with another team - and probably better players, named the next new head coach of the Cleveland Browns.... Pretty self explanatory, or so I thought anyway.
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WTF difference does that make. I just hope the next coach can effing coach and can effing win.
D.i.c.k. Vermeil was in the media a long time...and came back and won a SB. As for "currently a HC" do you mean, like in college? I do doubt that the Browns will be hiring the HC of any other current HC of an NFL team.
What if BB said: I want to retire as HC of the NEP....in order to pursue becoming the HC of the CBs once again.
The Phucking difference it makes is I don't want to see a regurgitated guy that couldn't cut it with another team - and probably better players, named the next new head coach of the Cleveland Browns.... Pretty self explanatory, or so I thought anyway.
The Phucking difference it makes is I don't want to see a regurgitated guy that couldn't cut it with another team - and probably better players, named the next new head coach of the Cleveland Browns.... Pretty self explanatory, or so I thought anyway.
The ONLY thing that is explanatory about your statement is that you want to eliminate a whole category of potentially successful coaches that could come here....for some idiotic personal whim. Certainly NOT out of any logic.
ALL of the following were retread coaches....each of whom won a Super Bowl as a "retread":
Bill Belichick, Gary Kubiak, Pete Carroll, Tom Coughlin, Tony Dungy, Jon Gruden, D.i.c.k. Vermeil, Mike Shanahan, Don Shula, Weeb Ewbank.
All of the following took their teams to Super Bowls in at least their second gig as an HC, even if they didn't win:
John Fox, Mike Holmgren, Dan Reeves, Marv Levy, Forrest Gregg, John Rauch, Bill Parcells,
So....fuyck that. there are 17 names above of "retread coaches" that have taken their second team to a Super Bowl...win or lose.
So, no, it is not self explanatory ...it is pretty damn dumb.
I am not saying that the Browns should hire a retread....but I am saying that NO ONE should be eliminated just because he was a prior HC in the league. That would be foolish.
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