Hue fired
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Man, lots of reports that Baker did not like Hue.... I saw some body language from Baker here and there when talking to Hue that made me think that Baker was not buying into whatever Huey was selling, but these reports make it sound as it was a well known fact.
Man, lots of reports that Baker did not like Hue.... I saw some body language from Baker here and there when talking to Hue that made me think that Baker was not buying into whatever Huey was selling, but these reports make it sound as it was a well known fact.
I've thought that since seeing them interact on 'Hard Knocks', in fact I mentioned it numerous times.
It was painfully obvious that Mayfield knew Hue was a dead man walking, and barely even went through the motions of showing him respect.
And good lord, the first episode of HK basically broadcast to the world that Haley and Hue were never going to work out.
Thankfully when can start to move on.
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So far this season the Cleveland Browns have gotten rid of:
Their Starting Kicker
Their Starting WR
Their Starting RB
An NFL Referee
Their Head Coach
Their Offensive Coordinator
So far this season the Cleveland Browns have gotten rid of:
Their Starting Kicker
Their Starting WR
Their Starting RB
An NFL Referee
Their Head Coach
Their Offensive Coordinator
DAMN! ! ! That's quite a list. Thanks for that. So much for continuity.
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Man, lots of reports that Baker did not like Hue.... I saw some body language from Baker here and there when talking to Hue that made me think that Baker was not buying into whatever Huey was selling, but these reports make it sound as it was a well known fact.
I've thought that since seeing them interact on 'Hard Knocks', in fact I mentioned it numerous times.
It was painfully obvious that Mayfield knew Hue was a dead man walking, and barely even went through the motions of showing him respect.
And good lord, the first episode of HK basically broadcast to the world that Haley and Hue were never going to work out.
Thankfully when can start to move on.
I've thought that since seeing them interact on 'Hard Knocks', . . . .
And good lord, the first episode of HK . . .
I didn't watch it but I can see that it was huge in getting CLE to where the Browns are at this moment.
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I've thought that since seeing them interact on 'Hard Knocks', . . . .
And good lord, the first episode of HK . . .
I didn't watch it but I can see that it was huge in getting CLE to where the Browns are at this moment.
I didn't watch it but I can see that it was huge in getting CLE to where the Browns are at this moment.
It was obvious as the nose on your face that Haley and Hue weren't going to get along. Haley didn't respect Hue's "candy-butt" way of leadership, and Hue wanted nothing to do with any OC coming in and taking his offense over.
And I never got the impression Mayfield wanted anything to do with him. Every time Hue would talk to him, Baker seemed to have this look on his face like: "Dude, I'm barely even going to bother learning your name, because I know you aren't long for this place."
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So far this season the Cleveland Browns have gotten rid of:
Their Starting Kicker
Their Starting WR
Their Starting RB
An NFL Referee
Their Head Coach
Their Offensive Coordinator
So far this season the Cleveland Browns have gotten rid of:
Their Starting Kicker
Their Starting WR
Their Starting RB
An NFL Referee
Their Head Coach
Their Offensive Coordinator
i just see it as another wasted season...and we have had many of those, but this one is just downright ugly....poor baker....and as a matter of fact, all the browns....guess i'll still watch them. ....the fo just cannot get it right.....
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do we have any clarification that in fact Hue hired Haley or Dorsey?
According to Tony Grossi, Hue hired Haley. Hue was in charge of the coaching staff and reported directly to Haslem.
Zombo
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I didn't watch it but I can see that it was huge in getting CLE to where the Browns are at this moment.
It was obvious as the nose on your face that Haley and Hue weren't going to get along. Haley didn't respect Hue's "candy-butt" way of leadership, and Hue wanted nothing to do with any OC coming in and taking his offense over.
And I never got the impression Mayfield wanted anything to do with him. Every time Hue would talk to him, Baker seemed to have this look on his face like: "Dude, I'm barely even going to bother learning your name, because I know you aren't long for this place."
It was obvious as the nose on your face that Haley and Hue weren't going to get along. Haley didn't respect Hue's "candy-butt" way of leadership, and Hue wanted nothing to do with any OC coming in and taking his offense over.
And I never got the impression Mayfield wanted anything to do with him. Every time Hue would talk to him, Baker seemed to have this look on his face like: "Dude, I'm barely even going to bother learning your name, because I know you aren't long for this place."
Never a Hue fan, but I gave him the benefit of doubt, much like the Browns did, right up to the Steeler game. Not a fan of change to make change.
But, after that game I was in a conversation with Marko and a few others and we were debating who gets fired, Hue or Haley, and I said "Fire them both tonight".
I looked past the 1-31, this was a new beginning. But you played Pittsburgh to a draw over 5 quarters in week one, and now you look like a college team in the second half against them. That's regression. And, as for Haley, if he can't take commands or criticism ... good luck to ya.
I think Baker is in better hands with Freddie Kitchens the rest of the year, he knows Haley's offense inside and out, and has probably been wanting to throw in some of his own stuff, and as a former QB, he is going to protect Baker as well as give him opportunities to make plays.
Gregg Williams:
First order of business: Demand an real NFL kicker from personnel.
Second order of business: Sit down with Baker, tell him you've got his back ... but that you'll be over on the defensive side of the ball, bye.
Third order of business: Grab some motherfucker by the facemask at the first practice and let the team know that Club Med is over, they are going to work their asses off and be held accountable.
Zombo
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It was obvious as the nose on your face that Haley and Hue weren't going to get along. Haley didn't respect Hue's "candy-butt" way of leadership, and Hue wanted nothing to do with any OC coming in and taking his offense over.
And I never got the impression Mayfield wanted anything to do with him. Every time Hue would talk to him, Baker seemed to have this look on his face like: "Dude, I'm barely even going to bother learning your name, because I know you aren't long for this place."
Never a Hue fan, but I gave him the benefit of doubt, much like the Browns did, right up to the Steeler game. Not a fan of change to make change.
But, after that game I was in a conversation with Marko and a few others and we were debating who gets fired, Hue or Haley, and I said "Fire them both tonight".
I looked past the 1-31, this was a new beginning. But you played Pittsburgh to a draw over 5 quarters in week one, and now you look like a college team in the second half against them. That's regression. And, as for Haley, if he can't take commands or criticism ... good luck to ya.
I think Baker is in better hands with Freddie Kitchens the rest of the year, he knows Haley's offense inside and out, and has probably been wanting to throw in some of his own stuff, and as a former QB, he is going to protect Baker as well as give him opportunities to make plays.
Gregg Williams:
First order of business: Demand an real NFL kicker from personnel.
Second order of business: Sit down with Baker, tell him you've got his back ... but that you'll be over on the defensive side of the ball, bye.
Third order of business: Grab some motherfucker by the facemask at the first practice and let the team know that Club Med is over, they are going to work their asses off and be held accountable.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Gregg Williams:
First order of business: Demand an real NFL kicker from personnel.
They're on back order.
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Zombo said:
According to Tony Grossi, Hue hired Haley. Hue was in charge of the coaching staff and reported directly to Haslem.
I'm sure Hue did "make the hire", but...
- it was no secret that hiring an OC was a prerequisite for Hue continuing as the HC; and
- Haley's name was likely suggested for Hue's consideration.
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Zombo said:
According to Tony Grossi, Hue hired Haley. Hue was in charge of the coaching staff and reported directly to Haslem.
I'm sure Hue did "make the hire", but...
- it was no secret that hiring an OC was a prerequisite for Hue continuing as the HC; and
- Haley's name was likely suggested for Hue's consideration.
I'm sure Hue did "make the hire", but...
- it was no secret that hiring an OC was a prerequisite for Hue continuing as the HC; and
- Haley's name was likely suggested for Hue's consideration.
There have been theories that the bad playcalling was an attempt to sabotage the head coaching position from Jackson.
I wouldn’t put it passed an OC who’s been an OC for a long time lol
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Zombo said:
Gregg Williams:
First order of business: Demand an real NFL kicker from personnel.
They're on back order.
They're (kickers) on back order.
I know, but at least this week, we have to let the dust settle before we have kicking tryouts... Joseph is going to have to do, maybe up until the bye.
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They're (kickers) on back order.
I know, but at least this week, we have to let the dust settle before we have kicking tryouts... Joseph is going to have to do, maybe up until the bye.
I know, but at least this week, we have to let the dust settle before we have kicking tryouts... Joseph is going to have to do, maybe up until the bye.
Get him a decent kicking coach and he could be fine. Lack of real coaching has killed us.
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I'm sure Hue did "make the hire", but...
- it was no secret that hiring an OC was a prerequisite for Hue continuing as the HC; and
- Haley's name was likely suggested for Hue's consideration.
There have been theories that the bad playcalling was an attempt to sabotage the head coaching position from Jackson.
I wouldn’t put it passed an OC who’s been an OC for a long time lol
There have been theories that the bad playcalling was an attempt to sabotage the head coaching position from Jackson.
I wouldn’t put it passed an OC who’s been an OC for a long time lol
I doubt that. I don't think Haley would purposely call bad plays to get Hue fired.
I do however believe Haley absolutely detested having to have Hue "approve" of his plays, and that Hue was telling him what to do. Hence why Haley would call plays Hue told him not to call, just to spite him, and because he thought Hue was wrong, and a "control freak".
Hue is no longer the captain, and I actually feel bad for him. He was a horrible coach, but now he goes down in history as one of the worst HC's of all time.
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Zac Taylor seems to be the favorite
Covers Football@Covers_Football.@betonline_ag has updated their odds:
Zac Taylor +200
Lincoln Riley +225
John DeFilippo +650
Sean McVay +750
Dan Campbell +750
Brian Flores +750
Dave Toub +1000
Jim Harbaugh +1400
Gregg Williams +1600
Bill Belichick +2000
Covers Football@Covers_FootballWho will be the Cleveland Browns next full time Head Coach? (@betonline_ag):
Sean McVay +200
Lincoln Riley +225
Zac Taylor +550
John DeFilippo +650
Dan Campbell +750
Brian Flores +750
Dave Toub +800
Jim Harbaugh +1200
Bill Belichick +2000RAMS QB COACH ZAC TAYLOR
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Rams quarterback coach Zac Taylor has already seen a swing in the odds. He went from +550 to +200 this afternoon and is considered the favorite for the job. The 35 year old has been learning under head coach Sean McVay the past two seasons. He spent four seasons with the Miami Dolphins earlier in his career before serving as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach of the Cincinnati Bearcats in 2016. Young offensive coaches are all the rage in today's NFL, especially those that have coached under McVay.
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Get him a decent kicking coach and he could be fine. Lack of real coaching has killed us.
A kicking coach?
Name one "kicking coach" in the history of the NFL.
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