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Chiefs may be looking at kizer

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  • Browns1216 Browns1216B
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    Browns1216B Browns1216 wrote on last edited by
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    Would be good for Kizer but bad for the Browns.  Not all the losses were on Kizer last season and he played well enough to remain the starter this coming season.  His main issue is trying to do too much, which led to him making dumb decisions.  I can't fault him for that since the Browns usually abandon the run game in the second half.  He is very young and has shown good work ethic so far, I think he will be drastically improved this coming season and would like to see him start over throwing another rookie QB in before the rookie is ready and repeating the cycle of futility.   I would love to see what Haley can do with Kizer and I'm not willing to waste Kizer's potential for a 5th round pick.

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      jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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      Makes very littl sense to me. Seems as though he's on a low rookie contract and may make a second year jump. They must really be convinced he has no upside. I think we must be hoping to take a QB in the 1st round then acquire a pick via trading Kizer to bundle moving to grab Mike White somewhere in round 3 or 4. 

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        Makes very littl sense to me. Seems as though he's on a low rookie contract and may make a second year jump. They must really be convinced he has no upside. I think we must be hoping to take a QB in the 1st round then acquire a pick via trading Kizer to bundle moving to grab Mike White somewhere in round 3 or 4. 

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        hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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        @jcam222 said:

        Makes very littl sense to me. Seems as though he's on a low rookie contract and may make a second year jump. If the Browns are really contemplating a trade They must really be convinced he has no upside. I think we must be hoping to take a QB in the 1st round then acquire a pick via trading Kizer to bundle moving to grab Mike White somewhere in round 3 or 4. 

        Bold is FIFY.   I just don't see that happening, more silly season speculation with no hard basis in fact. 

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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          Kizer is Sheet.  Get rid of him for anything we can get.

          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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            @pat-mahomo said:

            From a KC point of view....yes, We'd gladly take him for a 5th round draft pick.  The original poster is incorrect about Tyler Bray being on our roster...he isn't...he is a FA.  Only Mahomes on the roster....

            If you believe Mahomes will be a bust you haven't been paying attention.

            Back to the issue at hand.  We are looking at having to sign a veteran type to back up....Chase Daniel will be strongly considered...but if offered, why wouldn't we in KC want this....as mention before, Kizer is CHEEP.  and he comes with NFL starting experience....he wasn't that good, but again, not many recieving options on a bad team...he isn't just a nobody..he went in round 2 for a reason..and he is absolutely worth way more to us than some lottery ticket rookie non experience QB we might draft in round 5.  It would be totally worthwhile from a KC point of view to do this....it also seems very "brownsy" of the Browns to want to do this.  

            Mahomes will be a bust. KC always picks the wrong QB. Len Dawson was drafted by Pittsburgh.

            They have success when they take in reject or old SF 49er QBs.

            KC QB drafts

            Brody Croyle

            Steve Deberg

            Mike Livingston

            Steve Fuller

            Kevin Hogan

            Arron Murray

            Pat Barnes

            Ricky Stanzi

            Todd Blackledge. HAHA Passed on Marino and Jim Kelly.

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            Pat MahomoP Pat Mahomo wrote on last edited by
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            @boo-fagley said:

            Mahomes will be a bust. KC always picks the wrong QB. Len Dawson was drafted by Pittsburgh.

            They have success when they take in reject or old SF 49er QBs.

            KC QB drafts

            Brody Croyle

            Steve Deberg

            Mike Livingston

            Steve Fuller

            Kevin Hogan

            Arron Murray

            Pat Barnes

            Ricky Stanzi

            Todd Blackledge. HAHA Passed on Marino and Jim Kelly.

            ???  The Browns won't ever win a Super Bowl because they never have....Same logic.  ......If you think Mahomes will bust, you haven't been paying attention.  .....that's ok though....by about week 4 this year, you will have figured it out.

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              @boo-fagley said:

              Mahomes will be a bust. KC always picks the wrong QB. Len Dawson was drafted by Pittsburgh.

              They have success when they take in reject or old SF 49er QBs.

              KC QB drafts

              Brody Croyle

              Steve Deberg

              Mike Livingston

              Steve Fuller

              Kevin Hogan

              Arron Murray

              Pat Barnes

              Ricky Stanzi

              Todd Blackledge. HAHA Passed on Marino and Jim Kelly.

              ???  The Browns won't ever win a Super Bowl because they never have....Same logic.  ......If you think Mahomes will bust, you haven't been paying attention.  .....that's ok though....by about week 4 this year, you will have figured it out.

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              @pat-mahomo said:

              ???  The Browns won't ever win a Super Bowl because they never have....Same logic.  ......If you think Mahomes will bust, you haven't been paying attention.  .....that's ok though....by about week 4 this year, you will have figured it out.

              Paying attention to what about Mahomes? He was a rookie who barely played last season. 

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                Pat MahomoP Pat Mahomo wrote on last edited by
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                They traded Alex Smith because they think he will be a bust.  There aren't multiple reports from inside and outside the team expressing the opinion that he's about to be a star....and there aren't videos like this explaining why

                 http://www.nfl.com/videos/baldys-breakdowns/0ap3000000905916/Why-Patrick-Mahomes-is-ready-to-lead-the-Chiefs-Film-Review

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                  @boo-fagley said:

                  Mahomes will be a bust. KC always picks the wrong QB. Len Dawson was drafted by Pittsburgh.

                  They have success when they take in reject or old SF 49er QBs.

                  KC QB drafts

                  Brody Croyle

                  Steve Deberg

                  Mike Livingston

                  Steve Fuller

                  Kevin Hogan

                  Arron Murray

                  Pat Barnes

                  Ricky Stanzi

                  Todd Blackledge. HAHA Passed on Marino and Jim Kelly.

                  ???  The Browns won't ever win a Super Bowl because they never have....Same logic.  ......If you think Mahomes will bust, you haven't been paying attention.  .....that's ok though....by about week 4 this year, you will have figured it out.

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                  B boo fagley wrote on last edited by
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                  @pat-mahomo said:

                  ???  The Browns won't ever win a Super Bowl because they never have....Same logic.  ......If you think Mahomes will bust, you haven't been paying attention.  .....that's ok though....by about week 4 this year, you will have figured it out.

                  HAHA

                  I live in KC. Mahomes has looked like a stud holding a dixie cup of Gatorade. Bust, just watch.

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                    @pat-mahomo said:

                    ???  The Browns won't ever win a Super Bowl because they never have....Same logic.  ......If you think Mahomes will bust, you haven't been paying attention.  .....that's ok though....by about week 4 this year, you will have figured it out.

                    HAHA

                    I live in KC. Mahomes has looked like a stud holding a dixie cup of Gatorade. Bust, just watch.

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                    Pat MahomoP Pat Mahomo wrote on last edited by
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                    @boo-fagley said:

                    HAHA

                    I live in KC. Mahomes has looked like a stud holding a dixie cup of Gatorade. Bust, just watch.

                    This has aged well 😁

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                      @boo-fagley said:

                      HAHA

                      I live in KC. Mahomes has looked like a stud holding a dixie cup of Gatorade. Bust, just watch.

                      This has aged well 😁

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                      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                      @pat-mahomo said:

                      This has aged well 😁

                      Nice to see you back, don't gloat too hard.  🙂   Pat- good for you guys, I don't think anyone saw this coming. Certainly not at this level. You have a stud team. Super bowl level quality. We'll see how the suddenly porous Browns D stacks up against that firepower Sunday. 

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                        I’d be very surprised if Mahomes was a bust 

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                        @londonbrown said:

                        I’d be very surprised if Mahomes was a bust 

                        GM in waiting right here ?

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                          @londonbrown said:

                          I’d be very surprised if Mahomes was a bust 

                          GM in waiting right here ?

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                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                          @londonbrown said:

                          GM in waiting right here ?

                          Way too thin skinned for the position 

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                            @londonbrown said:

                            GM in waiting right here ?

                            Way too thin skinned for the position 

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                            L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                            @dutch-oven said:

                            Way too thin skinned for the position 

                            The money would calm my hurt feelings

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                              @pat-mahomo said:

                              ???  The Browns won't ever win a Super Bowl because they never have....Same logic.  ......If you think Mahomes will bust, you haven't been paying attention.  .....that's ok though....by about week 4 this year, you will have figured it out.

                              HAHA

                              I live in KC. Mahomes has looked like a stud holding a dixie cup of Gatorade. Bust, just watch.

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                              T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                              @boo-fagley said:

                              HAHA

                              I live in KC. Mahomes has looked like a stud holding a dixie cup of Gatorade. Bust, just watch.

                              I went to the Denver game in Denver and watched him sling a pass about 40 yds that never looked like it got more than 10-12 ft. off the ground and then skittered another 25-30 yds after first bounce. And I watched him overthrow #10 on a long pass at least 60 yds downfield. It is harder to overthrow #10 more than any other receiver in the NFL IMO. But he did.

                              I'd never seen an arm like that before. And he makes it look effortless.

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