Josh Gordon Traded to Pats
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Actually JM did things no college quarterback ever did. His rise was meteoric but his lack of personal exprrience and character flaws did him in. (Remember Maurice Clarett?) His list of accomplishments and accolades are a mile long and won't all fit here and why freshmen should not be elidgible for some major awards.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Manziel
College honors
Full-season awards
- 2012 Heisman Trophy winner (first freshman to win)[111]
- 2012 Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award winner (first freshman to win)[112]
- 2012 Manning Award winner (first freshman to win)[5]
- 2012 First-team All-American by:
- ◦ Associated Press[113]
- ◦ Football Writers Association of America[114]
- ◦ Walter Camp Football Foundation[115]
- ◦ Sporting News[116]
- ◦ ESPN[117]
- ◦ CBS Sports[118]
- ◦ Scout.com[119]
- ◦ Sports Illustrated[120]
- 2012 Sporting News College Football Player of the Year[121]
- 2012 SEC Offensive Player of the Year[122]
- 2012 SEC Freshman of the Year[122]
- 2012 All-SEC First-Team Quarterback[122]
- 2013 Cotton Bowl Classic – Offensive MVP[123]
- 2012 ESPN.com All-Bowl Team[124]
- 2013 SEC Male Athlete of the Year[125]
- 2013 Chick-fil-A Bowl – Offensive MVP[126]
Weekly awards
- 2-time Walter Camp National Offensive Player of the Week[115]
- 3-time AT&T All-America Player of the Week[127]
- 4-time SEC Offensive Player of the Week[128]
- 9-time SEC Freshman of the Week[128]
NCAA records and notes
- FBS freshman record: rushing yards by a quarterback, season (1,410)[5]
- FBS freshman record: total offense, season (5,116)[5]
- 10th-most (at the time) single-season total offensive yards in NCAA FBS history[129]
- Most games with 300 or more passing yards and 100+ rushing yards, career (4)..........on and on the list goes.......
NOthing that Gino Torretta, Jason White, Eric Crouch, Tim Tebow, Troy Smith, Matt Leinert, Chris Weinke, Danny Wuerfell, Charlie Ward and others didn't accomplish. You know...all THOSE great NFL QBs.
Point: college accomplishments don't mean squat.
NOthing that Gino Torretta, Jason White, Eric Crouch, Tim Tebow, Troy Smith, Matt Leinert, Chris Weinke, Danny Wuerfell, Charlie Ward and others didn't accomplish. You know...all THOSE great NFL QBs.
Point: college accomplishments don't mean squat.
College accomplishments can be an indicator of talent but NOT a guarantee of success at the professional level. He had accolades in spades but tried to finish being a college kid at the next level.....didn't work for him.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
You guys are talking about Johnny Football now?!!??
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You guys are talking about Johnny Football now?!!??
You guys are talking about Johnny Football now?!!??
Yeah when Flash and JFF decided to shack up together and party like it was 1999 or maybe 1969 they kind of followed similiar career paths.....and lucky for us they were Cleveland Browns, before Hard Knocks.
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You guys are talking about Johnny Football now?!!??
Yeah when Flash and JFF decided to shack up together and party like it was 1999 or maybe 1969 they kind of followed similiar career paths.....and lucky for us they were Cleveland Browns, before Hard Knocks.
Yeah when Flash and JFF decided to shack up together and party like it was 1999 or maybe 1969 they kind of followed similiar career paths.....and lucky for us they were Cleveland Browns, before Hard Knocks.
They were just 2 young and talented dude with substance abuse issues, that’s why it didn’t work. Not much more to say imo
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NOthing that Gino Torretta, Jason White, Eric Crouch, Tim Tebow, Troy Smith, Matt Leinert, Chris Weinke, Danny Wuerfell, Charlie Ward and others didn't accomplish. You know...all THOSE great NFL QBs.
Point: college accomplishments don't mean squat.
College accomplishments can be an indicator of talent but NOT a guarantee of success at the professional level. He had accolades in spades but tried to finish being a college kid at the next level.....didn't work for him.
College accomplishments can be an indicator of talent but NOT a guarantee of success at the professional level. He had accolades in spades but tried to finish being a college kid at the next level.....didn't work for him.
They can be an indicator that you have college level talent, not necessarily NFL level talent. As clearly evidenced by the list I provided.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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He still does not look healthy.. and he’s still dominant.
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He still does not look healthy.. and he’s still dominant.
He still does not look healthy.. and he’s still dominant.
And now it's all peaches and cream since he got his way out of Cleveland... Big TD? he's lost a step or two...
But still. Coulda used the bum...
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He still does not look healthy.. and he’s still dominant.
And now it's all peaches and cream since he got his way out of Cleveland... Big TD? he's lost a step or two...
But still. Coulda used the bum...
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At least Gordon would've given us a WR the other team worried about
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Not as much as most folks here worried about him...
Dominant? Not even close...
The long TD was a great play design sold by a great QB, but it only goes for 15 if the Safety plays the man instead of going for the INT.
That said Josh's best catch of the nite was disallowed for being OB... he wasn't.
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I'm not trying to start the "we should not have traded Gordon" debacle, but I will say that it really hurts to lose someone like Gordon when his play is exactly what we need. We don't really have a receiver on the roster who can go up and take the ball away from someone, or someone who can catch a ball and go the distance. The safety tried to arm tackle Gordon on that long TD, and basically bounced right off of him. Gordon then ran about half speed all the way to the end zone.
Is he dominant? No. But that's the beauty of the Patriots' offensive situation. They have Josh Gordon and hardly even NEED his services.
Yes, his TD was the result of a well-designed play, and subsequent terrible tackle attempt, but it should be noted we started off the game yesterday with basically the same play, and it didn't work. We faked the WR screen, and tried to look for a deep shot. I loved the play, especially on the first down of the game, but things just don't seem to work like that for us.
Gordon had 5 catches on 10 targets, which isn't a great percentage, but when the receptions go for 130 yards, nobody is complaining. If we ever had a 55 yard TD reception, I think the entire stadium would explode in joy and astonishment.
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I'm not trying to start the "we should not have traded Gordon" debacle, but I will say that it really hurts to lose someone like Gordon when his play is exactly what we need. We don't really have a receiver on the roster who can go up and take the ball away from someone, or someone who can catch a ball and go the distance. The safety tried to arm tackle Gordon on that long TD, and basically bounced right off of him. Gordon then ran about half speed all the way to the end zone.
Is he dominant? No. But that's the beauty of the Patriots' offensive situation. They have Josh Gordon and hardly even NEED his services.
Yes, his TD was the result of a well-designed play, and subsequent terrible tackle attempt, but it should be noted we started off the game yesterday with basically the same play, and it didn't work. We faked the WR screen, and tried to look for a deep shot. I loved the play, especially on the first down of the game, but things just don't seem to work like that for us.
Gordon had 5 catches on 10 targets, which isn't a great percentage, but when the receptions go for 130 yards, nobody is complaining. If we ever had a 55 yard TD reception, I think the entire stadium would explode in joy and astonishment.
I'm not trying to start the "we should not have traded Gordon" debacle, but I will say that it really hurts to lose someone like Gordon when his play is exactly what we need. We don't really have a receiver on the roster who can go up and take the ball away from someone, or someone who can catch a ball and go the distance. The safety tried to arm tackle Gordon on that long TD, and basically bounced right off of him. Gordon then ran about half speed all the way to the end zone.
Is he dominant? No. But that's the beauty of the Patriots' offensive situation. They have Josh Gordon and hardly even NEED his services.
Yes, his TD was the result of a well-designed play, and subsequent terrible tackle attempt, but it should be noted we started off the game yesterday with basically the same play, and it didn't work. We faked the WR screen, and tried to look for a deep shot. I loved the play, especially on the first down of the game, but things just don't seem to work like that for us.
Gordon had 5 catches on 10 targets, which isn't a great percentage, but when the receptions go for 130 yards, nobody is complaining. If we ever had a 55 yard TD reception, I think the entire stadium would explode in joy and astonishment.
I will be "that guy" for you
Trading Gordon for less than a bag of magic beans was STUPID. He is exactly what we need on the field right now as a receiver. Watching him last night made me sick to see in a Patriots uni. I get the tardiness and immaturity stuff, ok fine him , bench him a quarter (ala Belicheck) but every week watching our sh!tty receivers knowing we could have had this is laughable. I suspect if we revisit whether or not he is dominant several game from now the opinion will change as well.
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He still does not look healthy.. and he’s still dominant.
And now it's all peaches and cream since he got his way out of Cleveland... Big TD? he's lost a step or two...
But still. Coulda used the bum...
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I'm not trying to start the "we should not have traded Gordon" debacle, but I will say that it really hurts to lose someone like Gordon when his play is exactly what we need. We don't really have a receiver on the roster who can go up and take the ball away from someone, or someone who can catch a ball and go the distance. The safety tried to arm tackle Gordon on that long TD, and basically bounced right off of him. Gordon then ran about half speed all the way to the end zone.
Is he dominant? No. But that's the beauty of the Patriots' offensive situation. They have Josh Gordon and hardly even NEED his services.
Yes, his TD was the result of a well-designed play, and subsequent terrible tackle attempt, but it should be noted we started off the game yesterday with basically the same play, and it didn't work. We faked the WR screen, and tried to look for a deep shot. I loved the play, especially on the first down of the game, but things just don't seem to work like that for us.
Gordon had 5 catches on 10 targets, which isn't a great percentage, but when the receptions go for 130 yards, nobody is complaining. If we ever had a 55 yard TD reception, I think the entire stadium would explode in joy and astonishment.
I'm not trying to start the "we should not have traded Gordon" debacle, but I will say that it really hurts to lose someone like Gordon when his play is exactly what we need. We don't really have a receiver on the roster who can go up and take the ball away from someone, or someone who can catch a ball and go the distance. The safety tried to arm tackle Gordon on that long TD, and basically bounced right off of him. Gordon then ran about half speed all the way to the end zone.
Is he dominant? No. But that's the beauty of the Patriots' offensive situation. They have Josh Gordon and hardly even NEED his services.
Yes, his TD was the result of a well-designed play, and subsequent terrible tackle attempt, but it should be noted we started off the game yesterday with basically the same play, and it didn't work. We faked the WR screen, and tried to look for a deep shot. I loved the play, especially on the first down of the game, but things just don't seem to work like that for us.
Gordon had 5 catches on 10 targets, which isn't a great percentage, but when the receptions go for 130 yards, nobody is complaining. If we ever had a 55 yard TD reception, I think the entire stadium would explode in joy and astonishment.
he can be as dominant as he was his first yr.....unless he screws it up.....again......his skills are still there....all of them.....and we have Sheet on the field for receivers....
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I'm not trying to start the "we should not have traded Gordon" debacle, but I will say that it really hurts to lose someone like Gordon when his play is exactly what we need. We don't really have a receiver on the roster who can go up and take the ball away from someone, or someone who can catch a ball and go the distance. The safety tried to arm tackle Gordon on that long TD, and basically bounced right off of him. Gordon then ran about half speed all the way to the end zone.
Is he dominant? No. But that's the beauty of the Patriots' offensive situation. They have Josh Gordon and hardly even NEED his services.
Yes, his TD was the result of a well-designed play, and subsequent terrible tackle attempt, but it should be noted we started off the game yesterday with basically the same play, and it didn't work. We faked the WR screen, and tried to look for a deep shot. I loved the play, especially on the first down of the game, but things just don't seem to work like that for us.
Gordon had 5 catches on 10 targets, which isn't a great percentage, but when the receptions go for 130 yards, nobody is complaining. If we ever had a 55 yard TD reception, I think the entire stadium would explode in joy and astonishment.
he can be as dominant as he was his first yr.....unless he screws it up.....again......his skills are still there....all of them.....and we have Sheet on the field for receivers....
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I'm not trying to start the "we should not have traded Gordon" debacle, but I will say that it really hurts to lose someone like Gordon when his play is exactly what we need. We don't really have a receiver on the roster who can go up and take the ball away from someone, or someone who can catch a ball and go the distance. The safety tried to arm tackle Gordon on that long TD, and basically bounced right off of him. Gordon then ran about half speed all the way to the end zone.
Is he dominant? No. But that's the beauty of the Patriots' offensive situation. They have Josh Gordon and hardly even NEED his services.
Yes, his TD was the result of a well-designed play, and subsequent terrible tackle attempt, but it should be noted we started off the game yesterday with basically the same play, and it didn't work. We faked the WR screen, and tried to look for a deep shot. I loved the play, especially on the first down of the game, but things just don't seem to work like that for us.
Gordon had 5 catches on 10 targets, which isn't a great percentage, but when the receptions go for 130 yards, nobody is complaining. If we ever had a 55 yard TD reception, I think the entire stadium would explode in joy and astonishment.
he can be as dominant as he was his first yr.....unless he screws it up.....again......his skills are still there....all of them.....and we have Sheet on the field for receivers....
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Delete this sour grapes thread. Hes gone...someones trash is someones treasure.
Shmuck that azzhole
Delete this sour grapes thread. Hes gone...someones trash is someones treasure.
Shmuck that azzhole
I've thought we should lock up this thread as well...but then we are going to have a new one every Sunday that he has even a somewhat decent game.
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