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  • RE: some of the deleted Ghoolie stuff Guys.  🙂  

    #1A regarding me personally- I have a BS in Science- Medical Technology (retired).  People's lives depended on me making accurate observations. Or you want me giving A positive blood to an O negative patient, or adding an extra zero to a 60 blood sugar making it a 600, and a couple people dying because I screwed up? I like to think I'm pretty good at making objective observations. 

    Aw, gee whiz- one of the other Mods deleted some stuff. So guys- here's the hoorta's rebuttal, as best I can remember, I about 1\2 read the post before more important personal stuff interfered. I thought about taking it to PM, but I want the rest of you guys- and Ghoolie to know how the world works. 

    #1 Friendship has nothing to do with it. 

    #2 Ghoolie, you have a skewed view of reality- more on that later. 

    #3 Stan deputized Zombo, me and Mark to keep the peace around here. You have a problem with that? It's why you're getting time outs for violating that concept. It's apparently foreign to you. It's been posted numerous times why you're getting kicked off. 

    #4 This Board is not your personal toilet to take a dump on whenever the hell you feel like it. The purpose of the Board is not for your personal amusement- to get people pissed off. That is considered trolling\ flamebaiting- and it's not going to be tolerated. I copied your exit post from B-H just to show guys that hmmm.... read on...  

    #5 So all Browns fans are jackoffs? Well the classic schoolyard reply is "takes one to know one". Guess you're not really one- troll.  In fact, you personally insulted everyone over there, and by extension everyone here. I happen to be "the keeper of the peace", and I don't particularly like it because I'm a Browns fan being called a jackoff, GOT IT? PROBABLY NOT. I have 1\2 a mind to kick you off- because even though it wasn't on this board- it shows you're not interested in discussion-you're more interested in flamebaiting, trolling, and drawing attention to yourself. 

    Maybe you're in denial and you don't realize- to your discredit- Head Honcho Stan had to autocorrect a bunch of swear words- because Mr. Potty Mouth- that's because YOU azzhole- it had to be done. It's too bad as a Mod, I have to take the high road- or else, I'd I'd unleash a string of profanity against your BS that would make a drunk sailor blush. 

    I'm tired of your crap, flamebaiting, and excuses- apparently Mark and Z are too. It's not fun and games here Tom. Talk football in a civil manner- or get the f**ing hell out of here- like you promised- wimp- 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    I don't even buy that. Maybe New England 5th rounder and the Chiefs 5th rounder they viewed as equals but if you mean to tell me that you think if New England offered a fifth and Oakland offered a fifth or Tampa Bay or San Francisco insert your choice there is no way that John Dorsey isn't taking the pic of one of the teams projected to finish at the bottom of the league just to appease Josh Gordon.

    A 7th, even a late one, more than covers the difference between an early and late 5th.... so there's that.

    value3.jpg

    @tour2ma said:

    A 7th, even a late one, more than covers the difference between an early and late 5th.... so there's that.

    value3.jpg

    In that same thing a late 7th covers the difference between a mid 3rd and a early 5th. What's the point? Is it is to say that they don't care whether it was a late or early 5th because a 7th rounder covers the difference because if it is then that means you'd you be willing to suggest that they wouldn't care whether it were a early 5th or mid-round third also because the difference between pick 129 and pick 77 is 39.8 which is the value of pick 224. If you think that John Dorsey would turn down a mid 3rd round pick for a early 5th because it's the same value as the last pick in the draft then we have the wrong GM

  • @canton-mike said:

    Agreed.

    This new culture won't rely upon wishing & hoping....It's a culture of action & what action has JG shown?...Do it or bye-bye. I applaud them.

    Mike

    But Dorsey and Hue have been hoodwinked by him over and over. That is the bigger story. We all knew Gordon is garbage.

    @ghoolie said:

    But Dorsey and Hue have been hoodwinked by him over and over. That is the bigger story. We all knew Gordon is garbage.

    Read all of these posts on page 3  and 4 in this topic when people were in Gordon's Corner and then read the more recent posts by "Ghoolie" since Gordon is no longer on the Browns and people aren't in his corner. I pulled just one where he said Gordon is garbage but he'll claim he was right no matter what happens with Josh Gordon. This post was when he said he knew from someone high up that he came in drunk and high and it'll come out in the media, which it never did, the Browns were stupid for not cutting him sooner. Now that he's playing somewhat decent the Browns are idiots for letting him go. The dude is nothing but a troll flame baiting douche nozzle. The sooner this board is rid of the "faux browns" hating troll the better off it will be. If he were really a friend of Stan he would just get off the board because his alter ego split personality/psychological problems is driving people away.

  • there are enough quality posters/people here with differing opinions/view points that can stimulate good discussion without the troll riling people up. The sad thing is because of the mental hurdles he jumps through I truly believe that he thinks that he's the livelihood of this board.

    Edit Sorry Zombo Mark hoorta I know one if not all of you guys are deleting his posts so i won't address or talk about him anymore as that's what he wants.

  • RE: some of the deleted Ghoolie stuff Guys.  🙂  

    #1A regarding me personally- I have a BS in Science- Medical Technology (retired).  People's lives depended on me making accurate observations. Or you want me giving A positive blood to an O negative patient, or adding an extra zero to a 60 blood sugar making it a 600, and a couple people dying because I screwed up? I like to think I'm pretty good at making objective observations. 

    Aw, gee whiz- one of the other Mods deleted some stuff. So guys- here's the hoorta's rebuttal, as best I can remember, I about 1\2 read the post before more important personal stuff interfered. I thought about taking it to PM, but I want the rest of you guys- and Ghoolie to know how the world works. 

    #1 Friendship has nothing to do with it. 

    #2 Ghoolie, you have a skewed view of reality- more on that later. 

    #3 Stan deputized Zombo, me and Mark to keep the peace around here. You have a problem with that? It's why you're getting time outs for violating that concept. It's apparently foreign to you. It's been posted numerous times why you're getting kicked off. 

    #4 This Board is not your personal toilet to take a dump on whenever the hell you feel like it. The purpose of the Board is not for your personal amusement- to get people pissed off. That is considered trolling\ flamebaiting- and it's not going to be tolerated. I copied your exit post from B-H just to show guys that hmmm.... read on...  

    #5 So all Browns fans are jackoffs? Well the classic schoolyard reply is "takes one to know one". Guess you're not really one- troll.  In fact, you personally insulted everyone over there, and by extension everyone here. I happen to be "the keeper of the peace", and I don't particularly like it because I'm a Browns fan being called a jackoff, GOT IT? PROBABLY NOT. I have 1\2 a mind to kick you off- because even though it wasn't on this board- it shows you're not interested in discussion-you're more interested in flamebaiting, trolling, and drawing attention to yourself. 

    Maybe you're in denial and you don't realize- to your discredit- Head Honcho Stan had to autocorrect a bunch of swear words- because Mr. Potty Mouth- that's because YOU azzhole- it had to be done. It's too bad as a Mod, I have to take the high road- or else, I'd I'd unleash a string of profanity against your BS that would make a drunk sailor blush. 

    I'm tired of your crap, flamebaiting, and excuses- apparently Mark and Z are too. It's not fun and games here Tom. Talk football in a civil manner- or get the f**ing hell out of here- like you promised- wimp- 

    @hoorta said:

    RE: some of the deleted Ghoolie stuff Guys.  🙂  

    #1A regarding me personally- I have a BS in Science- Medical Technology (retired).  People's lives depended on me making accurate observations. Or you want me giving A positive blood to an O negative patient, or adding an extra zero to a 60 blood sugar making it a 600, and a couple people dying because I screwed up? I like to think I'm pretty good at making objective observations. 

    Aw, gee whiz- one of the other Mods deleted some stuff. So guys- here's the hoorta's rebuttal, as best I can remember, I about 1\2 read the post before more important personal stuff interfered. I thought about taking it to PM, but I want the rest of you guys- and Ghoolie to know how the world works. 

    #1 Friendship has nothing to do with it. 

    #2 Ghoolie, you have a skewed view of reality- more on that later. 

    #3 Stan deputized Zombo, me and Mark to keep the peace around here. You have a problem with that? It's why you're getting time outs for violating that concept. It's apparently foreign to you. It's been posted numerous times why you're getting kicked off. 

    #4 This Board is not your personal toilet to take a dump on whenever the hell you feel like it. The purpose of the Board is not for your personal amusement- to get people pissed off. That is considered trolling\ flamebaiting- and it's not going to be tolerated. I copied your exit post from B-H just to show guys that hmmm.... read on...  

    #5 So all Browns fans are jackoffs? Well the classic schoolyard reply is "takes one to know one". Guess you're not really one- troll.  In fact, you personally insulted everyone over there, and by extension everyone here. I happen to be "the keeper of the peace", and I don't particularly like it because I'm a Browns fan being called a jackoff, GOT IT? PROBABLY NOT. I have 1\2 a mind to kick you off- because it even though it wasn't on this board- it shows you're not interested in discussion-you're more interested in flamebaiting, trolling, and drawing attention to yourself. 

    Maybe you're in denial and you don't realize- to your discredit- Head Honcho Stan had to autocorrect a bunch of swear words- because Mr. Potty Mouth- that's because YOU azzhole- it had to be done. It's too bad as a Mod, I have to take the high road- or else, I'd I'd unleash a string of profanity against your BS that would make a drunk sailor blush. 

    I'm tired of your crap, flamebaiting, and excuses- apparently Mark and Z are too. It's not fun and games here Tom. Talk football in a civil manner- or get the f**ing hell out of here- like you promised- wimp- 

    See that is where it riles me up, and actually think that at times he actually does believe his own crap and not just trolling.

    Just because you are good at making accurate observations in one area doesnt mean you can for everything. I know a lot of football, you have to coaching, and a lot of different philosophies, and a fair amount with health/physical activities because of that. But that doesn't mean I can make an accurate observation on soccer, cricket, swimming. And those are in the same "field", not water to sports lol

  • @mark-o said:

    No....I don't think that happened.  I don't think anyone offered anything better than that.

    That seems to be what some are suggesting.

    Edit they seem to think that Dorsey took a lesser deal to put josh in the right position or best position for him to succeed

    @bjh2130 said:

    That seems to be what some are suggesting.

    Edit they seem to think that Dorsey took a lesser deal to put josh in the right position or best position for him to succeed

    I was making a simple suggestion because I always felt JG was worth a hell of a lot more than a 5th, especially considering he was on his last straw.

  •  The purpose of the Board is not for your personal amusement- to get people pissed off. That is considered trolling\ flamebaiting- and it's not going to be tolerated.

    I hope this rule does not apply to pissing off/trolling/flamebaiting Steeler trolls.   Say it ain't so, Joe.

  • @bjh2130 said:

    That seems to be what some are suggesting.

    Edit they seem to think that Dorsey took a lesser deal to put josh in the right position or best position for him to succeed

    I was making a simple suggestion because I always felt JG was worth a hell of a lot more than a 5th, especially considering he was on his last straw.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    I was making a simple suggestion because I always felt JG was worth a hell of a lot more than a 5th, especially considering he was on his last straw.

    But I think the consensus likely around the NFL among GMs is that you were wrong....that he was NOT worth a hell of a lot more than a 5th rounder. 

    Maybe his former potential would have had him there.....his 5 years ago persona, but not now.  And certainly not with the risk of having him make one mistake that would get him suspended again...perhaps forever.

    (I will say this however:  I think the league will be easing up greatly on the marijuana suspensions. And they may in fact be even now letting the likes of Gordon slide on this.  I predict that in a couple of years, after the new CBA, that the league will agree to not even test for weed.)

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    I was making a simple suggestion because I always felt JG was worth a hell of a lot more than a 5th, especially considering he was on his last straw.

    But I think the consensus likely around the NFL among GMs is that you were wrong....that he was NOT worth a hell of a lot more than a 5th rounder. 

    Maybe his former potential would have had him there.....his 5 years ago persona, but not now.  And certainly not with the risk of having him make one mistake that would get him suspended again...perhaps forever.

    (I will say this however:  I think the league will be easing up greatly on the marijuana suspensions. And they may in fact be even now letting the likes of Gordon slide on this.  I predict that in a couple of years, after the new CBA, that the league will agree to not even test for weed.)

    @the-gipper said:

    (I will say this however:  I think the league will be easing up greatly on the marijuana suspensions. And they may in fact be even now letting the likes of Gordon slide on this.  I predict that in a couple of years, after the new CBA, that the league will agree to not even test for weed.)

    Oh the NFL will be going easier on Gordon for sure now that he is with NE. Playoff team, Tom Brady. You think they are going to take away anything from the Pats in on one of Tom’s last remaining years? 

    The more I think about how much of a piece of crap Gordon is for pulling the stunt he pulled after all the times the Browns stuck with him, and how much they could use a WR just like him right now for a rookie QB the more I hope he rips the living crap out of his ACL and is out of the league. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    (I will say this however:  I think the league will be easing up greatly on the marijuana suspensions. And they may in fact be even now letting the likes of Gordon slide on this.  I predict that in a couple of years, after the new CBA, that the league will agree to not even test for weed.)

    Oh the NFL will be going easier on Gordon for sure now that he is with NE. Playoff team, Tom Brady. You think they are going to take away anything from the Pats in on one of Tom’s last remaining years? 

    The more I think about how much of a piece of crap Gordon is for pulling the stunt he pulled after all the times the Browns stuck with him, and how much they could use a WR just like him right now for a rookie QB the more I hope he rips the living crap out of his ACL and is out of the league. 

    @hx214 said:

    Oh the NFL will be going easier on Gordon for sure now that he is with NE. Playoff team, Tom Brady. You think they are going to take away anything from the Pats in on one of Tom’s last remaining years? 

    The more I think about how much of a piece of crap Gordon is for pulling the stunt he pulled after all the times the Browns stuck with him, and how much they could use a WR just like him right now for a rookie QB the more I hope he rips the living crap out of his ACL and is out of the league. 

    Interesting theory....that they would favor the Pats like that.   Considering Spygate/Deflategate.   Nothing could ever be proven that they would favor the Pats.

    But....factually what could be known....though it is not supposed to be revealed....is what the league is doing to test him now.   Is he still taking weekly piss tests....or are they even bothering?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

  • I find it hilarious that Gordon will line up this week against now in Tenn. *Malcolm Butler*...Most will remember, Belicheck refused to play Butler in the SB that cost his own teammates a better chance to win. Bill today still won't clear up what Butler did against Pats team Rules..Wonder what Bill does this time when Gordon slips up come Dec? Gordon will be able to hit free agency at seasons end..Good Luck with that Market Value price ?   

  • Flash had a great game last week 130 and a TD but I am not sad he is out of the Land. I do wonder why they would let him go for a crap draft pick when we are thin at the wr position, we lack play makers, we lack speed we lack Hands you name it we don't have it. Jarvis always has catches but for what yards? 3 or 4 yards per catch?  Coleman and Gordon both gone where we were counting on both to be there for us, Back in July looking in we were thinking, Gordon, Coleman and Jarvis in the slot...…………..Higgins is average at best but since his injury...….

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    I was making a simple suggestion because I always felt JG was worth a hell of a lot more than a 5th, especially considering he was on his last straw.

    But I think the consensus likely around the NFL among GMs is that you were wrong....that he was NOT worth a hell of a lot more than a 5th rounder. 

    Maybe his former potential would have had him there.....his 5 years ago persona, but not now.  And certainly not with the risk of having him make one mistake that would get him suspended again...perhaps forever.

    (I will say this however:  I think the league will be easing up greatly on the marijuana suspensions. And they may in fact be even now letting the likes of Gordon slide on this.  I predict that in a couple of years, after the new CBA, that the league will agree to not even test for weed.)

    @the-gipper said:

    But I think the consensus likely around the NFL among GMs is that you were wrong....that he was NOT worth a hell of a lot more than a 5th rounder. 

    Maybe his former potential would have had him there.....

    (I will say this however:  I think the league will be easing up greatly on the marijuana suspensions. And they may in fact be even now letting the likes of Gordon slide on this.  I predict that in a couple of years, after the new CBA, that the league will agree to not even test for weed.)

    You are probably right , however, I don’t think that reason is because of his talent. I think it’s because of his off the field issues. 

    He is only 27 years old. AB? Julio? Doug Baldwin? Dez? They’re all 29-30.

    Y’all can say “Brady makes him look good” all you want. The fact of the matter is he will continue to get better and that is ok with me, JG and Cleveland we’re not a good match.

  • @the-gipper said:

    But I think the consensus likely around the NFL among GMs is that you were wrong....that he was NOT worth a hell of a lot more than a 5th rounder. 

    Maybe his former potential would have had him there.....

    (I will say this however:  I think the league will be easing up greatly on the marijuana suspensions. And they may in fact be even now letting the likes of Gordon slide on this.  I predict that in a couple of years, after the new CBA, that the league will agree to not even test for weed.)

    You are probably right , however, I don’t think that reason is because of his talent. I think it’s because of his off the field issues. 

    He is only 27 years old. AB? Julio? Doug Baldwin? Dez? They’re all 29-30.

    Y’all can say “Brady makes him look good” all you want. The fact of the matter is he will continue to get better and that is ok with me, JG and Cleveland we’re not a good match.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    You are probably right , however, I don’t think that reason is because of his talent. I think it’s because of his off the field issues. 

    He is only 27 years old. AB? Julio? Doug Baldwin? Dez? They’re all 29-30.

    Y’all can say “Brady makes him look good” all you want. The fact of the matter is he will continue to get better and that is ok with me, JG and Cleveland we’re not a good match.

    Or maybe you’re just a Wishin and a hoping that he will get better but that doesn’t mean he really will. 

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    You are probably right , however, I don’t think that reason is because of his talent. I think it’s because of his off the field issues. 

    He is only 27 years old. AB? Julio? Doug Baldwin? Dez? They’re all 29-30.

    Y’all can say “Brady makes him look good” all you want. The fact of the matter is he will continue to get better and that is ok with me, JG and Cleveland we’re not a good match.

    Or maybe you’re just a Wishin and a hoping that he will get better but that doesn’t mean he really will. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Or maybe you’re just a Wishin and a hoping that he will get better but that doesn’t mean he really will. 

    I’m not wishing and hoping it.

    I’m expecting it LOL

  • Flash had a great game last week 130 and a TD but I am not sad he is out of the Land. I do wonder why they would let him go for a crap draft pick when we are thin at the wr position, we lack play makers, we lack speed we lack Hands you name it we don't have it. Jarvis always has catches but for what yards? 3 or 4 yards per catch?  Coleman and Gordon both gone where we were counting on both to be there for us, Back in July looking in we were thinking, Gordon, Coleman and Jarvis in the slot...…………..Higgins is average at best but since his injury...….

    @medicineman said:

    Flash had a great game last week 130 and a TD but I am not sad he is out of the Land. I do wonder why they would let him go for a crap draft pick when we are thin at the wr position, we lack play makers, we lack speed we lack Hands you name it we don't have it. Jarvis always has catches but for what yards? 3 or 4 yards per catch?  Coleman and Gordon both gone where we were counting on both to be there for us, Back in July looking in we were thinking, Gordon, Coleman and Jarvis in the slot...…………..Higgins is average at best but since his injury...….

    We've said it at least a dozen times already. Gordon ran out of strikes with the Browns. Was it intentional? Who knows. But there are things called "team rules". You can't have one set of "special" rules for Josh- and another set for everyone else.   

  • @medicineman said:

    Flash had a great game last week 130 and a TD but I am not sad he is out of the Land. I do wonder why they would let him go for a crap draft pick when we are thin at the wr position, we lack play makers, we lack speed we lack Hands you name it we don't have it. Jarvis always has catches but for what yards? 3 or 4 yards per catch?  Coleman and Gordon both gone where we were counting on both to be there for us, Back in July looking in we were thinking, Gordon, Coleman and Jarvis in the slot...…………..Higgins is average at best but since his injury...….

    We've said it at least a dozen times already. Gordon ran out of strikes with the Browns. Was it intentional? Who knows. But there are things called "team rules". You can't have one set of "special" rules for Josh- and another set for everyone else.   

    @hoorta said:

    We've said it at least a dozen times already. Gordon ran out of strikes with the Browns. Was it intentional? Who knows. But there are things called "team rules". You can't have one set of "special" rules for Josh- and another set for everyone else.   

    Yes. Besides Bill the repeated cheater doesn't really worry about rules -and- they don't have a young team trying to rebuilt practically from scratch. 

    Flash will fly right and produce there or he will be gone and forefiet a fortune.

  • Flash had a great game last week 130 and a TD but I am not sad he is out of the Land. I do wonder why they would let him go for a crap draft pick when we are thin at the wr position, we lack play makers, we lack speed we lack Hands you name it we don't have it. Jarvis always has catches but for what yards? 3 or 4 yards per catch?  Coleman and Gordon both gone where we were counting on both to be there for us, Back in July looking in we were thinking, Gordon, Coleman and Jarvis in the slot...…………..Higgins is average at best but since his injury...….

    @medicineman said:

    Higgins is average at best but since his injury...….

    The guy has been back one game and played very few snaps. Jesus man. I know I know he came back last week and played 10 snaps he should have had 180 yards receiving 10 catches and two TDs on those 10 snaps.

    Realistically he had a very good rapport with Baker and seemed to be his favorite intermediate target. He seemed to be doing very well at that as well prior to his injury. Give him some time.

  • @medicineman said:

    Higgins is average at best but since his injury...….

    The guy has been back one game and played very few snaps. Jesus man. I know I know he came back last week and played 10 snaps he should have had 180 yards receiving 10 catches and two TDs on those 10 snaps.

    Realistically he had a very good rapport with Baker and seemed to be his favorite intermediate target. He seemed to be doing very well at that as well prior to his injury. Give him some time.

    @bjh2130 said:

    The guy has been back one game and played very few snaps. Jesus man. I know I know he came back last week and played 10 snaps he should have had 180 yards receiving 10 catches and two TDs on those 10 snaps.

    Realistically he had a very good rapport with Baker and seemed to be his favorite intermediate target. He seemed to be doing very well at that as well prior to his injury. Give him some time.

    Yep, and he didn't have a setback. I believe Higgins will have a nice game tomorrow. Baker will have time to throw, Higgins should get open, and we'll score some points. 

  •  The purpose of the Board is not for your personal amusement- to get people pissed off. That is considered trolling\ flamebaiting- and it's not going to be tolerated.

    I hope this rule does not apply to pissing off/trolling/flamebaiting Steeler trolls.   Say it ain't so, Joe.

    @the-gipper said:

     The purpose of the Board is not for your personal amusement- to get people pissed off. That is considered trolling\ flamebaiting- and it's not going to be tolerated.

    I hope this rule does not apply to pissing off/trolling/flamebaiting Steeler trolls.   Say it ain't so, Joe.

    Steeler fans are a special sub category Gip. As a group, they have around 1\100th of the tolerance Trollie does. I'm sure you notice, those Steeler fans get special name changes, courtesy of Z.  I vote we change Ghoolie to Trollie, or  something similar. Memphis Miscreant? Pile of dog doo-doo? Accordion Azzhole? Set up a poll, most creative name wins a bottle of wine.  🙂