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  • Looks like Brady’s road playoff performances have crept into the regular season...

    @londonbrown said:

    Looks like Brady’s road playoff performances have crept into the regular season...

    Pats got Vrabeled... saw that one coming. Should they meet again in the playoffs, the results will likely be quite different.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Because you implied by your post that Dorsey would trade Josh to New England to put him in a better situation rather than trade him to Oakland because the value in between the two pics was less than that of a late 7th rounder. So I used your logic and your values to show you that even the first pick of the 5th round and the 14th pic of the third round had equal value to the last pick in the NFL draft. So according to your logic that there's less than a 7th round pick in value between a late 5th and early 5th the same can be said for anything after the 14th pick of the third round and an early 5th. So by your logic he wouldn't care to take a mid third-rounder or early fifth as long as Josh Gordon got put in a better situation. That is not changing an argument that is debating your argument.

    Saying that your logic of well the difference between the pics is less than a late 7th rounder so it wouldn't matter to him whether it were late 5th or early 5th is flawed.

    You ignored part of the deal that more than equalizes picks spanning the 5th round.

    I pointed that out.

    Now I'm out...

  • @londonbrown said:

    Looks like Brady’s road playoff performances have crept into the regular season...

    Pats got Vrabeled... saw that one coming. Should they meet again in the playoffs, the results will likely be quite different.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Because you implied by your post that Dorsey would trade Josh to New England to put him in a better situation rather than trade him to Oakland because the value in between the two pics was less than that of a late 7th rounder. So I used your logic and your values to show you that even the first pick of the 5th round and the 14th pic of the third round had equal value to the last pick in the NFL draft. So according to your logic that there's less than a 7th round pick in value between a late 5th and early 5th the same can be said for anything after the 14th pick of the third round and an early 5th. So by your logic he wouldn't care to take a mid third-rounder or early fifth as long as Josh Gordon got put in a better situation. That is not changing an argument that is debating your argument.

    Saying that your logic of well the difference between the pics is less than a late 7th rounder so it wouldn't matter to him whether it were late 5th or early 5th is flawed.

    You ignored part of the deal that more than equalizes picks spanning the 5th round.

    I pointed that out.

    Now I'm out...

    @tour2ma said:

    Pats got Vrabeled... saw that one coming. Should they meet again in the playoffs, the results will likely be quite different.

    You ignored part of the deal that more than equalizes picks spanning the 5th round.

    I pointed that out.

    Now I'm out...

    We gave them a conditional 7th they didn't give us a 7th unless im missing something. So how does that equalize the picks spanning the 5th round?

  • Pats offer  was the best available.. precisely what is the source of assertion that a better offer was on the table? Of course other teams talked with Dorsey.. but nobody beat Belichick's cold hard cash.

  • @londonbrown said:

    Looks like Brady’s road playoff performances have crept into the regular season...

    Pats got Vrabeled... saw that one coming. Should they meet again in the playoffs, the results will likely be quite different.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Because you implied by your post that Dorsey would trade Josh to New England to put him in a better situation rather than trade him to Oakland because the value in between the two pics was less than that of a late 7th rounder. So I used your logic and your values to show you that even the first pick of the 5th round and the 14th pic of the third round had equal value to the last pick in the NFL draft. So according to your logic that there's less than a 7th round pick in value between a late 5th and early 5th the same can be said for anything after the 14th pick of the third round and an early 5th. So by your logic he wouldn't care to take a mid third-rounder or early fifth as long as Josh Gordon got put in a better situation. That is not changing an argument that is debating your argument.

    Saying that your logic of well the difference between the pics is less than a late 7th rounder so it wouldn't matter to him whether it were late 5th or early 5th is flawed.

    You ignored part of the deal that more than equalizes picks spanning the 5th round.

    I pointed that out.

    Now I'm out...

    @tour2ma said:

    Pats got Vrabeled... saw that one coming. Should they meet again in the playoffs, the results will likely be quite different.

    Vrabls  dad taught at my high school 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    That seems to be what some are suggesting.

    That's what I believe but no one will ever know.   I believe the 2 strikes he already has against him.  The amount of time he's missed and that he's one mistake away from a lifetime ban makes him a HUGE risk for any team to trade much of anything for him, regardless of the amount of talent, even talent that hasn't been on display since 2013.

    @mark-o said:

    That's what I believe but no one will ever know.

    People also believe "Deflategate" was actually a thing when the following week the Vikings were putting balls in microwaves on live TV the week their dome fell and they played at UW stadium.  News flash: Carnegie Mellon showed the difference was within the natural variance PURELY due to temperature.

    You're welcome to your own emotions, you're not welcome to your own facts.

    Unless and until you show proof of another offer.... it didn't exist, period.  I've shown my proof --- either show your proof or be an adult, buck up, and drop your assumption that anyone else offered more for Gordon. 

    I'm so damn tired of this nonsense... it's binary: Either the offer existed or it didn't.  One of the two is true.

    Put up or shut up.

  • @mark-o said:

    That's what I believe but no one will ever know.

    People also believe "Deflategate" was actually a thing when the following week the Vikings were putting balls in microwaves on live TV the week their dome fell and they played at UW stadium.  News flash: Carnegie Mellon showed the difference was within the natural variance PURELY due to temperature.

    You're welcome to your own emotions, you're not welcome to your own facts.

    Unless and until you show proof of another offer.... it didn't exist, period.  I've shown my proof --- either show your proof or be an adult, buck up, and drop your assumption that anyone else offered more for Gordon. 

    I'm so damn tired of this nonsense... it's binary: Either the offer existed or it didn't.  One of the two is true.

    Put up or shut up.

    @unsympathetic said:

    People also believe "Deflategate" was actually a thing when the following week the Vikings were putting balls in microwaves on live TV the week their dome fell and they played at UW stadium.  News flash: Carnegie Mellon showed the difference was within the natural variance PURELY due to temperature.

    You're welcome to your own emotions, you're not welcome to your own facts.

    Unless and until you show proof of another offer.... it didn't exist, period.  I've shown my proof --- either show your proof or be an adult and change your assumption.

    I agree with you.   I don't think there was a better offer.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    People also believe "Deflategate" was actually a thing when the following week the Vikings were putting balls in microwaves on live TV the week their dome fell and they played at UW stadium.  News flash: Carnegie Mellon showed the difference was within the natural variance PURELY due to temperature.

    You're welcome to your own emotions, you're not welcome to your own facts.

    Unless and until you show proof of another offer.... it didn't exist, period.  I've shown my proof --- either show your proof or be an adult and change your assumption.

    I agree with you.   I don't think there was a better offer.

    @mark-o said:

    I agree with you.   I don't think there was a better offer.

    Beyond that why would there be a better offer

  • @mark-o said:

    That's what I believe but no one will ever know.

    People also believe "Deflategate" was actually a thing when the following week the Vikings were putting balls in microwaves on live TV the week their dome fell and they played at UW stadium.  News flash: Carnegie Mellon showed the difference was within the natural variance PURELY due to temperature.

    You're welcome to your own emotions, you're not welcome to your own facts.

    Unless and until you show proof of another offer.... it didn't exist, period.  I've shown my proof --- either show your proof or be an adult, buck up, and drop your assumption that anyone else offered more for Gordon. 

    I'm so damn tired of this nonsense... it's binary: Either the offer existed or it didn't.  One of the two is true.

    Put up or shut up.

    @unsympathetic said:

    People also believe "Deflategate" was actually a thing when the following week the Vikings were putting balls in microwaves on live TV the week their dome fell and they played at UW stadium.  News flash: Carnegie Mellon showed the difference was within the natural variance PURELY due to temperature.

    You're welcome to your own emotions, you're not welcome to your own facts.

    Unless and until you show proof of another offer.... it didn't exist, period.  I've shown my proof --- either show your proof or be an adult, buck up, and drop your assumption that anyone else offered more for Gordon. 

    I'm so damn tired of this nonsense... it's binary: Either the offer existed or it didn't.  One of the two is true.

    Put up or shut up.

    There's no way there was a better offer. If there were John Dorsey would have taken it. He doesn't care enough about Josh Gordon to take a lesser offer just so that puffy's in a better situation.

  • @londonbrown said:

    Looks like Brady’s road playoff performances have crept into the regular season...

    Pats got Vrabeled... saw that one coming. Should they meet again in the playoffs, the results will likely be quite different.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Because you implied by your post that Dorsey would trade Josh to New England to put him in a better situation rather than trade him to Oakland because the value in between the two pics was less than that of a late 7th rounder. So I used your logic and your values to show you that even the first pick of the 5th round and the 14th pic of the third round had equal value to the last pick in the NFL draft. So according to your logic that there's less than a 7th round pick in value between a late 5th and early 5th the same can be said for anything after the 14th pick of the third round and an early 5th. So by your logic he wouldn't care to take a mid third-rounder or early fifth as long as Josh Gordon got put in a better situation. That is not changing an argument that is debating your argument.

    Saying that your logic of well the difference between the pics is less than a late 7th rounder so it wouldn't matter to him whether it were late 5th or early 5th is flawed.

    You ignored part of the deal that more than equalizes picks spanning the 5th round.

    I pointed that out.

    Now I'm out...

    @tour2ma said:

    Pats got Vrabeled... saw that one coming. Should they meet again in the playoffs, the results will likely be quite different.

    You ignored part of the deal that more than equalizes picks spanning the 5th round.

    I pointed that out.

    Now I'm out...

    By the way if the Patriots had given us a 5th round and a 7th round pick that again would be the best deal over just a fifth-round from the Raiders for example.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Pats got Vrabeled... saw that one coming. Should they meet again in the playoffs, the results will likely be quite different.

    You ignored part of the deal that more than equalizes picks spanning the 5th round.

    I pointed that out.

    Now I'm out...

    By the way if the Patriots had given us a 5th round and a 7th round pick that again would be the best deal over just a fifth-round from the Raiders for example.

    @bjh2130 said:

    By the way if the Patriots had given us a 5th round and a 7th round pick that again would be the best deal over just a fifth-round from the Raiders for example.

    Still creating arguments?

  • @bjh2130 said:

    By the way if the Patriots had given us a 5th round and a 7th round pick that again would be the best deal over just a fifth-round from the Raiders for example.

    Still creating arguments?

    @tour2ma said:

    Still creating arguments?

    No I'm confused as to how us giving them a 7th rounder more than makes up for the pics spanning turn me 5th round.