Trump bump stock ban
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I'm with OBF on this. The NRA needs to be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem that might lead to gun banning altogether. Machineguns and submachineguns have been restricted in ownership almost 100 years now (1932) to take them out of the hands of criminals who loved the "Tommygun" i.e. Thompson submachinegun. Any device that gives any weapon that similar automatic firing should be a part of that restriction that already has that 1932 precedent.
You mean my M-60 is illegal?
You mean my M-60 is illegal?
Well if you actually knew how to shoot it, maybe.??
Now me, I want an M-79 because I actually did carry one along just in case and was pretty decent with round placement (in practice). Plus those things are fun to blow stuff up with. LOL! But I will not lie because I never actually fired it at anyone shooting our way. Usually out of range and/or so dark you could not estimate the proper range to set it for. I'm pretty sure they always set up their little 61 mm mortars far enough out that we could not respond with an M-79 anyway.
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I just don't give a shit.
You and 95% of Republicans...for now
You and 95% of Republicans...for now
I'm just curious, are they already illegal oh, and if not aren't they were ridiculously easy to make? And unless I'm not understanding something, would it be easier or harder to add the legislation as a presidential order or on a laundry list of poison pills that needs to get through Congress?
PS and I don't really care that much. I suppose they're a bad thing and if they get banned and people really honestly don't have them anymore, good riddance.
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The reality is the vegas shooter would have killed alot more people if he was a professional shooter instead of a gambling raging pos drunkard. No pro shooter would ever put a bump stock on his primary weapon and risk a short stroke.
Bump stocks are purely fir kunts that wanna build a cheap AR and hip rambo it through a bunch of people at short range....
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You and 95% of Republicans...for now
I'm just curious, are they already illegal oh, and if not aren't they were ridiculously easy to make? And unless I'm not understanding something, would it be easier or harder to add the legislation as a presidential order or on a laundry list of poison pills that needs to get through Congress?
PS and I don't really care that much. I suppose they're a bad thing and if they get banned and people really honestly don't have them anymore, good riddance.
WSS
I'm just curious, are they already illegal oh, and if not aren't they were ridiculously easy to make? And unless I'm not understanding something, would it be easier or harder to add the legislation as a presidential order or on a laundry list of poison pills that needs to get through Congress?
PS and I don't really care that much. I suppose they're a bad thing and if they get banned and people really honestly don't have them anymore, good riddance.
WSS
Trump is supposedly moving forward with the ban he said he would do by executive order some time next week. Part of it would require turning them in or destroying them.
This sets the stage for down the road, a President who doesn’t have an R beside their name, deciding to use that same logic to monkey brain all sorts of ways to screw gun owners. However, things are so partisan right now that people who would otherwise be losing it and talking about slippery slopes are now asking Trump which kind of chapstick he prefers they use.
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The reality is the vegas shooter would have killed alot more people if he was a professional shooter instead of a gambling raging pos drunkard. No pro shooter would ever put a bump stock on his primary weapon and risk a short stroke.
Bump stocks are purely fir kunts that wanna build a cheap AR and hip rambo it through a bunch of people at short range....
The reality is the vegas shooter would have killed alot more people if he was a professional shooter instead of a gambling raging pos drunkard. No pro shooter would ever put a bump stock on his primary weapon and risk a short stroke.
Bump stocks are purely fir kunts that wanna build a cheap AR and hip rambo it through a bunch of people at short range....
This. A competition trigger would have even produced the same rate of fire but don’t let anti-gunners know because then a bunch of people claiming to be pro 2A will sit there and let those be banned too.
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I'm with OBF on this. The NRA needs to be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem that might lead to gun banning altogether. Machineguns and submachineguns have been restricted in ownership almost 100 years now (1932) to take them out of the hands of criminals who loved the "Tommygun" i.e. Thompson submachinegun. Any device that gives any weapon that similar automatic firing should be a part of that restriction that already has that 1932 precedent.
I'm with OBF on this. The NRA needs to be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem that might lead to gun banning altogether. Machineguns and submachineguns have been restricted in ownership almost 100 years now (1932) to take them out of the hands of criminals who loved the "Tommygun" i.e. Thompson submachinegun. Any device that gives any weapon that similar automatic firing should be a part of that restriction that already has that 1932 precedent.
That bumpstock does nothing that my finger and shoulder can’t do. So talking about banning full auto sears has zero to do with this discussion.
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I'm with OBF on this. The NRA needs to be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem that might lead to gun banning altogether. Machineguns and submachineguns have been restricted in ownership almost 100 years now (1932) to take them out of the hands of criminals who loved the "Tommygun" i.e. Thompson submachinegun. Any device that gives any weapon that similar automatic firing should be a part of that restriction that already has that 1932 precedent.
That bumpstock does nothing that my finger and shoulder can’t do. So talking about banning full auto sears has zero to do with this discussion.
That bumpstock does nothing that my finger and shoulder can’t do. So talking about banning full auto sears has zero to do with this discussion.
I might have to see you do a video of doing it both ways before I buy that. Until then, I have my doubts.
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Ban fingers for the kids! *pearl clutching intensifies*
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That bumpstock does nothing that my finger and shoulder can’t do. So talking about banning full auto sears has zero to do with this discussion.
I might have to see you do a video of doing it both ways before I buy that. Until then, I have my doubts.
I might have to see you do a video of doing it both ways before I buy that. Until then, I have my doubts.
YouTube literally has tons of videos of it. A bump stock just mimics the hand hold. We did this years before the bumpstock to throw rounds and be dummies. Your accuracy stinks with it and I have used a bumpstock. The guy in Vegas would have caused more carnage with aimed rounds.
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Do you know that your finger and shoulder can do the same thing via physics? We did it all the time when we just wanted to blow through ammo. So banning a bumpstock does nothing but set a precedent about banning other items that could fall under the same umbrella (mags, optics, triggers, etc).
But Trump is an R so the usual folks who normally lose their minds about slippery slopes are ready to gleefully let it happen. I am pro 2A no matter who is in office.
It is not a political matter for me. I don't have a problem banning anything that will effectively turn a semi automatic into an automatic. We are having a big enough battle just to keep certain types of semi automatics legal. Magazines are already going down the slippery slope. Who decides what the magic number is for magazine capacity. New York sets it 7. Next year it could be 6...then 5...
It is not a political matter for me. I don't have a problem banning anything that will effectively turn a semi automatic into an automatic. We are having a big enough battle just to keep certain types of semi automatics legal. Magazines are already going down the slippery slope. Who decides what the magic number is for magazine capacity. New York sets it 7. Next year it could be 6...then 5...
Ebay sets it at 10
They won’t let anyone sell anything bigger
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Ban fingers for the kids! *pearl clutching intensifies*
Ban fingers for the kids! *pearl clutching intensifies*
That shows it all
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I'm just curious, are they already illegal oh, and if not aren't they were ridiculously easy to make? And unless I'm not understanding something, would it be easier or harder to add the legislation as a presidential order or on a laundry list of poison pills that needs to get through Congress?
PS and I don't really care that much. I suppose they're a bad thing and if they get banned and people really honestly don't have them anymore, good riddance.
WSS
Trump is supposedly moving forward with the ban he said he would do by executive order some time next week. Part of it would require turning them in or destroying them.
This sets the stage for down the road, a President who doesn’t have an R beside their name, deciding to use that same logic to monkey brain all sorts of ways to screw gun owners. However, things are so partisan right now that people who would otherwise be losing it and talking about slippery slopes are now asking Trump which kind of chapstick he prefers they use.
Trump is supposedly moving forward with the ban he said he would do by executive order some time next week. Part of it would require turning them in or destroying them.
This sets the stage for down the road, a President who doesn’t have an R beside their name, deciding to use that same logic to monkey brain all sorts of ways to screw gun owners. However, things are so partisan right now that people who would otherwise be losing it and talking about slippery slopes are now asking Trump which kind of chapstick he prefers they use.
Maybe, even probably. Then again good luck defending the bump stocks. Look assuming that the next Democrat president won't use executive order to throw the entire second amendment hand of the wood chipper.
WSS
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Trump is supposedly moving forward with the ban he said he would do by executive order some time next week. Part of it would require turning them in or destroying them.
This sets the stage for down the road, a President who doesn’t have an R beside their name, deciding to use that same logic to monkey brain all sorts of ways to screw gun owners. However, things are so partisan right now that people who would otherwise be losing it and talking about slippery slopes are now asking Trump which kind of chapstick he prefers they use.
Maybe, even probably. Then again good luck defending the bump stocks. Look assuming that the next Democrat president won't use executive order to throw the entire second amendment hand of the wood chipper.
WSS
Maybe, even probably. Then again good luck defending the bump stocks. Look assuming that the next Democrat president won't use executive order to throw the entire second amendment hand of the wood chipper.
WSS
I’m no constitutional scholar, but I don’t think a Presidential can use an executive order to ammend the constitution
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great points by both sides. It occurred to me that you could take some sponge, and make a shoulder pad, and it would bounce the gun
back and forth like a bump stock.
The serious concern is, as Logic has said - it opens the door wide open to further restrictions and abuse. I don't mind bump stocks being illegal - pretty much rare that people would want one - but at what cost? The left has made it clear that they demand total control and power over anybody not in their leftist giant subculture. Their demand to ban guns, etc, is a dangerous political gambit.
Offhand, I see the point about Las Vegas. OTH, I see thousands of leftwing haters rationalizing against everything else. Semi-auto everything, which some already do, banning all magazines - it will never end. Lefties used to diss the idea that anybody wants to ban guns on their side.
That ship sailed to another planet and crashed and burned...
This magazine size fiasco is just another farce. Make it sixteen, they will demand 12. Make it 12, they will demand 10. then eight.
then three. They will never stop. So, Pres Trump showing some kind of honest goodwill to the snake, is like the snake story "I took good care of you, you promised ! Why did you bite me?"
and the snake hisses "you KNEW I was a snake in the first place"
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I still get po'd at people who say stupid stuff - "assault weapon" (like semi-auto .22 LR ?)... "gun show loophole" (they heard you can freely buy guns all you want without background checks)....
"dangerous pistol grip and folding stock" (like that is two murder jobbies right there?)
Once I heard "pistols are small sneaky murder weapons"..."nobody ever uses guns to protect themselves" (I have a field day with that one)
and, "you all don't need to hunt anyways, we have grocery stores" ....
just stupid.
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The reality is the vegas shooter would have killed alot more people if he was a professional shooter instead of a gambling raging pos drunkard. No pro shooter would ever put a bump stock on his primary weapon and risk a short stroke.
Bump stocks are purely fir kunts that wanna build a cheap AR and hip rambo it through a bunch of people at short range....
This. A competition trigger would have even produced the same rate of fire but don’t let anti-gunners know because then a bunch of people claiming to be pro 2A will sit there and let those be banned too.
This. A competition trigger would have even produced the same rate of fire but don’t let anti-gunners know because then a bunch of people claiming to be pro 2A will sit there and let those be banned too.
Ok, so u agree with me that bump stocks are actually horrid and would desrtroy a good rifle. So why were they created? Nobody with an ounce of seriousness about owning a firearm in a responsible manner, would touch this rubbish. So why were they invented? To make money off rubbish little shitcunting wankers that chafe at the notion of one pull one round.....despite tge fact that military personnel never use their rifles on full auto if they're actually trying to kill something they have sighted. They only use full auto in short bursts fir suppressive fire.
I just dont see how other accessories like scopes and triggers, which never alter the one pull one round capability of the rifle......could one day fall under the bump stock ban.
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This. A competition trigger would have even produced the same rate of fire but don’t let anti-gunners know because then a bunch of people claiming to be pro 2A will sit there and let those be banned too.
Ok, so u agree with me that bump stocks are actually horrid and would desrtroy a good rifle. So why were they created? Nobody with an ounce of seriousness about owning a firearm in a responsible manner, would touch this rubbish. So why were they invented? To make money off rubbish little shitcunting wankers that chafe at the notion of one pull one round.....despite tge fact that military personnel never use their rifles on full auto if they're actually trying to kill something they have sighted. They only use full auto in short bursts fir suppressive fire.
I just dont see how other accessories like scopes and triggers, which never alter the one pull one round capability of the rifle......could one day fall under the bump stock ban.
Ok, so u agree with me that bump stocks are actually horrid and would desrtroy a good rifle. So why were they created? Nobody with an ounce of seriousness about owning a firearm in a responsible manner, would touch this rubbish. So why were they invented? To make money off rubbish little shitcunting wankers that chafe at the notion of one pull one round.....despite tge fact that military personnel never use their rifles on full auto if they're actually trying to kill something they have sighted. They only use full auto in short bursts fir suppressive fire.
I just dont see how other accessories like scopes and triggers, which never alter the one pull one round capability of the rifle......could one day fall under the bump stock ban.
Dummies love toys and sometimes solutions in search of problems are created.
A bump stock is an accessory unrelated to the action of the gun. Think of all the things that are gun related that are unrelated to the functioning of the fire arm or cyclical rate. Optics, triggers, mags, muzzle brakes, so on. They could make life miserable. Having an R do it will make it pretty easy for Ds to say “well your guy did it”.
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And there will be no give with the take. This isn’t a trade. It is a take.
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ANJRPC Releases Guide To Comply With NJ Magazine Ban By December 10
Notice the word... "fines".
a socialist money-maker, doesn't have to be legit....
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ANJRPC Releases Guide To Comply With NJ Magazine Ban By December 10
Notice the word... "fines".
a socialist money-maker, doesn't have to be legit....
ANJRPC Releases Guide To Comply With NJ Magazine Ban By December 10
Notice the word... "fines".
a socialist money-maker, doesn't have to be legit....
NJ is a lost cause. Anyone I know who wants to own guns without fear of cuffs moved across to PA.
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