Trump bump stock ban
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Do you know that your finger and shoulder can do the same thing via physics? We did it all the time when we just wanted to blow through ammo. So banning a bumpstock does nothing but set a precedent about banning other items that could fall under the same umbrella (mags, optics, triggers, etc).
But Trump is an R so the usual folks who normally lose their minds about slippery slopes are ready to gleefully let it happen. I am pro 2A no matter who is in office.
It is not a political matter for me. I don't have a problem banning anything that will effectively turn a semi automatic into an automatic. We are having a big enough battle just to keep certain types of semi automatics legal. Magazines are already going down the slippery slope. Who decides what the magic number is for magazine capacity. New York sets it 7. Next year it could be 6...then 5...
It is not a political matter for me. I don't have a problem banning anything that will effectively turn a semi automatic into an automatic. We are having a big enough battle just to keep certain types of semi automatics legal. Magazines are already going down the slippery slope. Who decides what the magic number is for magazine capacity. New York sets it 7. Next year it could be 6...then 5...
Ebay sets it at 10
They won’t let anyone sell anything bigger
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Ban fingers for the kids! *pearl clutching intensifies*
Ban fingers for the kids! *pearl clutching intensifies*
That shows it all
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I'm just curious, are they already illegal oh, and if not aren't they were ridiculously easy to make? And unless I'm not understanding something, would it be easier or harder to add the legislation as a presidential order or on a laundry list of poison pills that needs to get through Congress?
PS and I don't really care that much. I suppose they're a bad thing and if they get banned and people really honestly don't have them anymore, good riddance.
WSS
Trump is supposedly moving forward with the ban he said he would do by executive order some time next week. Part of it would require turning them in or destroying them.
This sets the stage for down the road, a President who doesn’t have an R beside their name, deciding to use that same logic to monkey brain all sorts of ways to screw gun owners. However, things are so partisan right now that people who would otherwise be losing it and talking about slippery slopes are now asking Trump which kind of chapstick he prefers they use.
Trump is supposedly moving forward with the ban he said he would do by executive order some time next week. Part of it would require turning them in or destroying them.
This sets the stage for down the road, a President who doesn’t have an R beside their name, deciding to use that same logic to monkey brain all sorts of ways to screw gun owners. However, things are so partisan right now that people who would otherwise be losing it and talking about slippery slopes are now asking Trump which kind of chapstick he prefers they use.
Maybe, even probably. Then again good luck defending the bump stocks. Look assuming that the next Democrat president won't use executive order to throw the entire second amendment hand of the wood chipper.
WSS
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Trump is supposedly moving forward with the ban he said he would do by executive order some time next week. Part of it would require turning them in or destroying them.
This sets the stage for down the road, a President who doesn’t have an R beside their name, deciding to use that same logic to monkey brain all sorts of ways to screw gun owners. However, things are so partisan right now that people who would otherwise be losing it and talking about slippery slopes are now asking Trump which kind of chapstick he prefers they use.
Maybe, even probably. Then again good luck defending the bump stocks. Look assuming that the next Democrat president won't use executive order to throw the entire second amendment hand of the wood chipper.
WSS
Maybe, even probably. Then again good luck defending the bump stocks. Look assuming that the next Democrat president won't use executive order to throw the entire second amendment hand of the wood chipper.
WSS
I’m no constitutional scholar, but I don’t think a Presidential can use an executive order to ammend the constitution
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great points by both sides. It occurred to me that you could take some sponge, and make a shoulder pad, and it would bounce the gun
back and forth like a bump stock.
The serious concern is, as Logic has said - it opens the door wide open to further restrictions and abuse. I don't mind bump stocks being illegal - pretty much rare that people would want one - but at what cost? The left has made it clear that they demand total control and power over anybody not in their leftist giant subculture. Their demand to ban guns, etc, is a dangerous political gambit.
Offhand, I see the point about Las Vegas. OTH, I see thousands of leftwing haters rationalizing against everything else. Semi-auto everything, which some already do, banning all magazines - it will never end. Lefties used to diss the idea that anybody wants to ban guns on their side.
That ship sailed to another planet and crashed and burned...
This magazine size fiasco is just another farce. Make it sixteen, they will demand 12. Make it 12, they will demand 10. then eight.
then three. They will never stop. So, Pres Trump showing some kind of honest goodwill to the snake, is like the snake story "I took good care of you, you promised ! Why did you bite me?"
and the snake hisses "you KNEW I was a snake in the first place"
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I still get po'd at people who say stupid stuff - "assault weapon" (like semi-auto .22 LR ?)... "gun show loophole" (they heard you can freely buy guns all you want without background checks)....
"dangerous pistol grip and folding stock" (like that is two murder jobbies right there?)
Once I heard "pistols are small sneaky murder weapons"..."nobody ever uses guns to protect themselves" (I have a field day with that one)
and, "you all don't need to hunt anyways, we have grocery stores" ....
just stupid.
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The reality is the vegas shooter would have killed alot more people if he was a professional shooter instead of a gambling raging pos drunkard. No pro shooter would ever put a bump stock on his primary weapon and risk a short stroke.
Bump stocks are purely fir kunts that wanna build a cheap AR and hip rambo it through a bunch of people at short range....
This. A competition trigger would have even produced the same rate of fire but don’t let anti-gunners know because then a bunch of people claiming to be pro 2A will sit there and let those be banned too.
This. A competition trigger would have even produced the same rate of fire but don’t let anti-gunners know because then a bunch of people claiming to be pro 2A will sit there and let those be banned too.
Ok, so u agree with me that bump stocks are actually horrid and would desrtroy a good rifle. So why were they created? Nobody with an ounce of seriousness about owning a firearm in a responsible manner, would touch this rubbish. So why were they invented? To make money off rubbish little shitcunting wankers that chafe at the notion of one pull one round.....despite tge fact that military personnel never use their rifles on full auto if they're actually trying to kill something they have sighted. They only use full auto in short bursts fir suppressive fire.
I just dont see how other accessories like scopes and triggers, which never alter the one pull one round capability of the rifle......could one day fall under the bump stock ban.
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This. A competition trigger would have even produced the same rate of fire but don’t let anti-gunners know because then a bunch of people claiming to be pro 2A will sit there and let those be banned too.
Ok, so u agree with me that bump stocks are actually horrid and would desrtroy a good rifle. So why were they created? Nobody with an ounce of seriousness about owning a firearm in a responsible manner, would touch this rubbish. So why were they invented? To make money off rubbish little shitcunting wankers that chafe at the notion of one pull one round.....despite tge fact that military personnel never use their rifles on full auto if they're actually trying to kill something they have sighted. They only use full auto in short bursts fir suppressive fire.
I just dont see how other accessories like scopes and triggers, which never alter the one pull one round capability of the rifle......could one day fall under the bump stock ban.
Ok, so u agree with me that bump stocks are actually horrid and would desrtroy a good rifle. So why were they created? Nobody with an ounce of seriousness about owning a firearm in a responsible manner, would touch this rubbish. So why were they invented? To make money off rubbish little shitcunting wankers that chafe at the notion of one pull one round.....despite tge fact that military personnel never use their rifles on full auto if they're actually trying to kill something they have sighted. They only use full auto in short bursts fir suppressive fire.
I just dont see how other accessories like scopes and triggers, which never alter the one pull one round capability of the rifle......could one day fall under the bump stock ban.
Dummies love toys and sometimes solutions in search of problems are created.
A bump stock is an accessory unrelated to the action of the gun. Think of all the things that are gun related that are unrelated to the functioning of the fire arm or cyclical rate. Optics, triggers, mags, muzzle brakes, so on. They could make life miserable. Having an R do it will make it pretty easy for Ds to say “well your guy did it”.
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And there will be no give with the take. This isn’t a trade. It is a take.
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ANJRPC Releases Guide To Comply With NJ Magazine Ban By December 10
Notice the word... "fines".
a socialist money-maker, doesn't have to be legit....
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ANJRPC Releases Guide To Comply With NJ Magazine Ban By December 10
Notice the word... "fines".
a socialist money-maker, doesn't have to be legit....
ANJRPC Releases Guide To Comply With NJ Magazine Ban By December 10
Notice the word... "fines".
a socialist money-maker, doesn't have to be legit....
NJ is a lost cause. Anyone I know who wants to own guns without fear of cuffs moved across to PA.
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How is a bump stock unrelated to the action? That sounds like hiding behind technicalities. I understand u xan simulate a bump stock but u have to take ur hand off the grip, again no pro shooter is gonna do that. A bump stock allows u to keep ur rear hand on the grip .....i would venture a solid guess that fact makes a bump stocked AR more accurate out further.
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How is a bump stock unrelated to the action? That sounds like hiding behind technicalities. I understand u xan simulate a bump stock but u have to take ur hand off the grip, again no pro shooter is gonna do that. A bump stock allows u to keep ur rear hand on the grip .....i would venture a solid guess that fact makes a bump stocked AR more accurate out further.
How is a bump stock unrelated to the action? That sounds like hiding behind technicalities. I understand u xan simulate a bump stock but u have to take ur hand off the grip, again no pro shooter is gonna do that. A bump stock allows u to keep ur rear hand on the grip .....i would venture a solid guess that fact makes a bump stocked AR more accurate out further.
It is the stock and nothing related to the action or operation (direct gas, short/long stroke piston, etc.). You aren’t altering internals.
The bumpstock is still bouncing the gun around in the stock mechanism so it is just as inaccurate as bouncing it shouldered with your hand mimicking the plastic insert for the bump stock.
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Sport shooters use devices where you just pull a string to have the device pull the trigger inside a sled for accurate shots. It isn’t my cup of tea. That is more tinkerer than shooter by a long shot. But those guys are using a device unrelated to the cycling or sighting of the rifle but are artificially making it more accurate.
Just too loose of s decision for my liking to just lay down about it.
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Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns. Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!
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Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns. Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!
wait...
Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns. Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!
wait...
They are, and it will happen soon enough. C'est la vie.
WSS
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Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns. Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!
wait...
They are, and it will happen soon enough. C'est la vie.
WSS
They are, and it will happen soon enough. C'est la vie.
WSS
Especially when the republicans start doing it
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Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns. Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!
wait...
Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns. Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!
wait...
After all the years of boogeyman rumors, Obama never pushed through an EO to hose gun owners. I don’t think it was because he was pro 2A by any means but he left it up to legislators.
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