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  • ANJRPC Releases Guide To Comply With NJ Magazine Ban By December 10

    Notice the word... "fines".

    a socialist money-maker, doesn't have to be legit....

  • ANJRPC Releases Guide To Comply With NJ Magazine Ban By December 10

    Notice the word... "fines".

    a socialist money-maker, doesn't have to be legit....

    @calfoxwc said:

    ANJRPC Releases Guide To Comply With NJ Magazine Ban By December 10

    Notice the word... "fines".

    a socialist money-maker, doesn't have to be legit....

    NJ is a lost cause. Anyone I know who wants to own guns without fear of cuffs moved across to PA.

  • How is a bump stock unrelated to the action? That sounds like hiding behind technicalities. I understand u xan simulate a bump stock  but u have to take ur hand off the grip, again no pro shooter is gonna do that. A bump stock allows u to keep ur rear hand on the grip .....i would venture a solid guess that fact makes a bump stocked AR more accurate out further.

  • How is a bump stock unrelated to the action? That sounds like hiding behind technicalities. I understand u xan simulate a bump stock  but u have to take ur hand off the grip, again no pro shooter is gonna do that. A bump stock allows u to keep ur rear hand on the grip .....i would venture a solid guess that fact makes a bump stocked AR more accurate out further.

    @clevfan4life said:

    How is a bump stock unrelated to the action? That sounds like hiding behind technicalities. I understand u xan simulate a bump stock  but u have to take ur hand off the grip, again no pro shooter is gonna do that. A bump stock allows u to keep ur rear hand on the grip .....i would venture a solid guess that fact makes a bump stocked AR more accurate out further.

    It is the stock and nothing related to the action or operation (direct gas, short/long stroke piston, etc.). You aren’t altering internals.

    The bumpstock is still bouncing the gun around in the stock mechanism so it is just as inaccurate as bouncing it shouldered with your hand mimicking the plastic insert for the bump stock.

  • Sport shooters use devices where you just pull a string to have the device pull the trigger inside a sled for accurate shots. It isn’t my cup of tea. That is more tinkerer than shooter by a long shot. But those guys are using a device unrelated to the cycling or sighting of the rifle but are artificially making it more accurate. 

    Just too loose of s decision for my liking to just lay down about it.

  • Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns.  Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!

    wait...

  • Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns.  Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!

    wait...

    @mld-woody said:

    Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns.  Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!

    wait...

    They are, and it will happen soon enough. C'est la vie.

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns.  Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!

    wait...

    They are, and it will happen soon enough. C'est la vie.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    They are, and it will happen soon enough. C'est la vie.

    WSS

    Especially when the republicans start doing it

  • Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns.  Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!

    wait...

    @mld-woody said:

    Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns.  Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!

    wait...

    After all the years of boogeyman rumors, Obama never pushed through an EO to hose gun owners. I don’t think it was because he was pro 2A by any means but he left it up to legislators. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    Sad! First bump stocks, then all of our guns.  Dirty Obamao strikes again. Next he's going to come for all of your guns!

    wait...

    After all the years of boogeyman rumors, Obama never pushed through an EO to hose gun owners. I don’t think it was because he was pro 2A by any means but he left it up to legislators. 

    @logicisforsquares said:

    After all the years of boogeyman rumors, Obama never pushed through an EO to hose gun owners. I don’t think it was because he was pro 2A by any means but he left it up to legislators. 

    He also had a Republican House and Senate. But it's good you are so trusting.

    WSS

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    After all the years of boogeyman rumors, Obama never pushed through an EO to hose gun owners. I don’t think it was because he was pro 2A by any means but he left it up to legislators. 

    He also had a Republican House and Senate. But it's good you are so trusting.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    He also had a Republican House and Senate. But it's good you are so trusting.

    WSS

    Where did I ever infer trust in either party? Obama had openings to trot out EOs and didn’t. They wouldn’t have to go through the legislative process. Trump has the same opportunity, he is. 

  • @westside-steve said:

    He also had a Republican House and Senate. But it's good you are so trusting.

    WSS

    Where did I ever infer trust in either party? Obama had openings to trot out EOs and didn’t. They wouldn’t have to go through the legislative process. Trump has the same opportunity, he is. 

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Where did I ever infer trust in either party? Obama had openings to trot out EOs and didn’t. They wouldn’t have to go through the legislative process. Trump has the same opportunity, he is. 

    I don’t think any pressure was put on Obama while he was prez to issue EO’s regarding firearms.

    None of the mass shootings were blamed on BO during his tenure.

    Naturally, the MSM lays blame on Trump for every mass shooting...and for the sun not shining everyday.

  • @westside-steve said:

    He also had a Republican House and Senate. But it's good you are so trusting.

    WSS

    Where did I ever infer trust in either party? Obama had openings to trot out EOs and didn’t. They wouldn’t have to go through the legislative process. Trump has the same opportunity, he is. 

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Where did I ever infer trust in either party? Obama had openings to trot out EOs and didn’t. They wouldn’t have to go through the legislative process. Trump has the same opportunity, he is. 

    Baby steps. Come on don't be naive. First you legalize controlling the number of rounds a gun can carry. Which means anything over a single shot bolt action could easily be outlawed. I don't suppose England was neutered in one day.

    Correctly if any of that crap was enforceable and across-the-board I could live with it.

    WSS

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Where did I ever infer trust in either party? Obama had openings to trot out EOs and didn’t. They wouldn’t have to go through the legislative process. Trump has the same opportunity, he is. 

    I don’t think any pressure was put on Obama while he was prez to issue EO’s regarding firearms.

    None of the mass shootings were blamed on BO during his tenure.

    Naturally, the MSM lays blame on Trump for every mass shooting...and for the sun not shining everyday.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I don’t think any pressure was put on Obama while he was prez to issue EO’s regarding firearms.

    None of the mass shootings were blamed on BO during his tenure.

    Naturally, the MSM lays blame on Trump for every mass shooting...and for the sun not shining everyday.

    That is not ok but at the same time it doesn’t get a pass from me on relenting on  2A support. This won’t be the end of it as far as this action being used as a later justification.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Where did I ever infer trust in either party? Obama had openings to trot out EOs and didn’t. They wouldn’t have to go through the legislative process. Trump has the same opportunity, he is. 

    Baby steps. Come on don't be naive. First you legalize controlling the number of rounds a gun can carry. Which means anything over a single shot bolt action could easily be outlawed. I don't suppose England was neutered in one day.

    Correctly if any of that crap was enforceable and across-the-board I could live with it.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Baby steps. Come on don't be naive. First you legalize controlling the number of rounds a gun can carry. Which means anything over a single shot bolt action could easily be outlawed. I don't suppose England was neutered in one day.

    Correctly if any of that crap was enforceable and across-the-board I could live with it.

    WSS

    Being naive isn’t it. It is a matter of not spitting on it before they slide it in on gun owners. But it seems the protesting to it is selective and political. It is like when the anti war movement disappered after Obama got in office. 

  • @westside-steve said:

    Baby steps. Come on don't be naive. First you legalize controlling the number of rounds a gun can carry. Which means anything over a single shot bolt action could easily be outlawed. I don't suppose England was neutered in one day.

    Correctly if any of that crap was enforceable and across-the-board I could live with it.

    WSS

    Being naive isn’t it. It is a matter of not spitting on it before they slide it in on gun owners. But it seems the protesting to it is selective and political. It is like when the anti war movement disappered after Obama got in office. 

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Being naive isn’t it. It is a matter of not spitting on it before they slide it in on gun owners. But it seems the protesting to it is selective and political. It is like when the anti war movement disappered after Obama got in office. 

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/28/gun-control-polling-parkland-430099

  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/#341d225a2312

    All of those were for research and awareness. The guy was not pro 2A as discussed previously but, like the Forbes article said, none of impacted gun owners. 

    I imagine they got real quiet after looking more at the numbers. All violent crime, including gun crime, has been dropping for years.