Hoorta may have been correct on Hue/Haley . This is Weird.
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You always said that everyone was coffee fetchers for Hue. Many of us tried to tell you otherwise. Hue had a voice when under Shashi's klan....but we tried to tell you it was a voice in the wilderness. Haley was brought in to get the offense and the play calling out of Hue's hands. Turned out the two couldn't play nice. Which is a break for us since Kitchens seems to be handling the O quite nicely.....although that's because we've won a couple games. The shine will quickly come off his star if we lose a couple. Which we might.
- I listened to some of Kitchens' press conference today. I think I kinda' like him.
You always said that everyone was coffee fetchers for Hue. Many of us tried to tell you otherwise. Hue had a voice when under Shashi's klan....but we tried to tell you it was a voice in the wilderness. Haley was brought in to get the offense and the play calling out of Hue's hands. Turned out the two couldn't play nice. Which is a break for us since Kitchens seems to be handling the O quite nicely.....although that's because we've won a couple games. The shine will quickly come off his star if we lose a couple. Which we might.
- I listened to some of Kitchens' press conference today. I think I kinda' like him.
I admit, I read the Hue thing wrong. HOWEVER............I wasn't wrong about Haley also being a dud. This Kitchens guy has one thing that concerns me...he let his foot up on the gas 3 -4 touchdowns too early. He put our defense back on the field, he killed our momentum, and he can't do that schidt any more. If we have teams fahked up, we need to beat them into humiliation. BUt, Haslam is nuts if he disrupts Williams and Kitchen.
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Well two things that have come out that reflect on Hue are the lack of discipline and apparently he couldn't tell Haley to do things that Baker does well from OU. Both of those reflect on the head coach, if the OC isn't doing what he should then the HC needs to take control of that situation. Anyways Kitchen seems to understand you play to your player strengths and its working, this Sunday will be a huge test for this team.
Regarding Hue- the telling thing to my mind was when Dorsey shipped Carlos Hyde out of town- because it was his opinion Hue was holding Chubb back. Probably overruled him on Gordon too. Speaking of Josh, he's currently got 32 receptions for 564 yards, and three touchdowns. (if you want a comparison, Callaway has 30 receptions for 388 yards, and three touchdowns) Huebatross might not have been calling all the plays- but it's obvious he was telling Haley who he could play.
And this is where me and Ghoolie disagree- the very top defensive (LeBeau et al) and offensive coordinators don't answer to the HC. They're pretty much free to run their own systems. And if the HC is smart- he just gets out of the way.
Regarding Hue- the telling thing to my mind was when Dorsey shipped Carlos Hyde out of town- because it was his opinion Hue was holding Chubb back. Probably overruled him on Gordon too. Speaking of Josh, he's currently got 32 receptions for 564 yards, and three touchdowns. (if you want a comparison, Callaway has 30 receptions for 388 yards, and three touchdowns) Huebatross might not have been calling all the plays- but it's obvious he was telling Haley who he could play.
And this is where me and Ghoolie disagree- the very top defensive (LeBeau et al) and offensive coordinators don't answer to the HC. They're pretty much free to run their own systems. And if the HC is smart- he just gets out of the way.
Larry, I don't agree, but will yield that in some places that may be the case. All I care about now is that the Browns are healthy. For the fist time since we had to swallow Kordell the peter puffy destroying us at the 1999 opener, this team IS a team.
Go Browns.
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And some fags here mocked me for having the audacity to.suggest browns fans are owed a fukking explanation for just what the fuk was going on behind the scenes that quite clearly now buttfukked this team out of a serious season. The success of the last couple weeks is eye opening. We might be in serious playoff contention if at least a semblance of this team had been on the field from the beginning. To hear baker talk about how the team is closer knit now, is infuriating. We had hard knocks ffs, this could have been a breakout year for this franchise.
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I dont want hue and haley just throqn under the bus, i deeply suspect theres more blame to.go around.
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I dont want hue and haley just throqn under the bus, i deeply suspect theres more blame to.go around.
I dont want hue and haley just throqn under the bus, i deeply suspect theres more blame to.go around.
They got fired and the team won. And won again. Double H stink, stank stunk period.
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I dont want hue and haley just throqn under the bus, i deeply suspect theres more blame to.go around.
They got fired and the team won. And won again. Double H stink, stank stunk period.
They got fired and the team won. And won again. Double H stink, stank stunk period.
Hue was one of the worst gameday coaches I have ever witnessed on any level which is what led Haley to the Browns. The fact that Hue continued to be "the guy in this chair" showed me he would not let go. Now I also think Haley was not exactly a barnburner, but Hue just stunk up the place his entire tenure and should have been fired instead of just gone swimming in the lake.
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They got fired and the team won. And won again. Double H stink, stank stunk period.
Hue was one of the worst gameday coaches I have ever witnessed on any level which is what led Haley to the Browns. The fact that Hue continued to be "the guy in this chair" showed me he would not let go. Now I also think Haley was not exactly a barnburner, but Hue just stunk up the place his entire tenure and should have been fired instead of just gone swimming in the lake.
Hue was one of the worst gameday coaches I have ever witnessed on any level which is what led Haley to the Browns. The fact that Hue continued to be "the guy in this chair" showed me he would not let go. Now I also think Haley was not exactly a barnburner, but Hue just stunk up the place his entire tenure and should have been fired instead of just gone swimming in the lake.
Haley was soundly despised in peetown too. I didn’t like bringing him in here at all. They need to be set adrift on a ice floe
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Here's how I see it: Dorsey told Hue he had to hire an OC, and STRONGLY recommended Haley, for whatever reason. Haley came in thinking when Hue failed ( which Haley was probably contributing to, knowingly ), he would step in as interim HC. I would have loved to see his face, when he was going to see Dorsey and Haslam after the Hue firing,,,,thinking he was going to be asked to step in as HC, but was fired. That's why we haven't heard a word from him. He deserved it and knew it. Dorsey is not stupid. Now Haslam...that might be arguable.
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Whoever was calling the reverses and double screens and runs in passing situations was the reason for all of this.
Whether it be Haley, or Hue, it costed us..
and now we are reaping the benefits.
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