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  • V VikingDawg

    @browns149 said:

    He’s better then any coach the Browns have had since 1999

    He is better then any coach the Browns have had since Paul Brown. 

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    @vikingdawg said:

    He is better then any coach the Browns have had since Paul Brown. 

    Let's not sleep on Blanton Collier, but I don't get all the "OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NOT MIKE MCCARTHY!" I'm seeing from Browns fans. 

    The Browns could do much worse than Mike McCarthy. 

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      He’s shown all year how out of date he is. 

      The NFL has moved on from the likes of Mike McCarthy. 

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        Sorry if this has been beaten to death.  If so, I hope the Administer pulls this post or - at least - merges with an ongoing dialogue.

        Who will be the next Browns' coach?

        Although it seems that the current guy has a good chance of getting the full-time gig, Dorsey has lots of contacts across the league (Green Bay, Seattle, Kansas City).

        Given his success with putting points on the board - i.e. giving Mayfield what he needs to become a premier NFL QB - his experience in cold weather, AND his Green Bay roots with Dorsey), I believe Mike McCarthy will be given strong consideration for the HC position.

        Opening up myself to lost of criticisms, etc. I state the Mike McCarthy - assuming he leaves GB - should be the next Browns HC.

        Let's start (or continue) a discussion.

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        @chicopee-john said:

        Sorry if this has been beaten to death.  If so, I hope the Administer pulls this post or - at least - merges with an ongoing dialogue.

        Who will be the next Browns' coach?

        Although it seems that the current guy has a good chance of getting the full-time gig, Dorsey has lots of contacts across the league (Green Bay, Seattle, Kansas City).

        Given his success with putting points on the board - i.e. giving Mayfield what he needs to become a premier NFL QB - his experience in cold weather, AND his Green Bay roots with Dorsey), I believe Mike McCarthy will be given strong consideration for the HC position.

        Opening up myself to lost of criticisms, etc. I state the Mike McCarthy - assuming he leaves GB - should be the next Browns HC.

        Let's start (or continue) a discussion.

        I don't know if you're joking or being serious. McCarthy moves at too slow a pace like others said. He can't even set Rodgers up for success, and he's one of the best QB's of his generation. I'd take Gregg Williams 10/10 times over McCarthy.

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          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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          Here's an article that speaks to the idea that the game has possibly passed McCarthy by... 

          https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/10/8/17951344/green-bay-packers-mike-mccarthy-aaron-rodgers?fbclid=IwAR32eIQIicu7k2_9-EvkHZJPj0T8TMUCV740BRHwaudv3yJC9RI8Sisxt4A

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            Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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            I do wonder (and I don't know if it happened) if the "the game has passed him by" argument was used against Andy Reid at the end of his run in Philly… If I recall it seemed to be more of a "things have gotten stale" situation. 

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            • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

              I do wonder (and I don't know if it happened) if the "the game has passed him by" argument was used against Andy Reid at the end of his run in Philly… If I recall it seemed to be more of a "things have gotten stale" situation. 

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              @dutch-oven said:

              I do wonder (and I don't know if it happened) if the "the game has passed him by" argument was used against Andy Reid at the end of his run in Philly… If I recall it seemed to be more of a "things have gotten stale" situation. 

              There's always some of that even after his great run:  https://insidetheiggles.com/2016/12/26/decision-fire-andy-reid-four-years-later/

              .......Reid went 130-93-1 as the Eagles’ coach, but for all of his accomplishments, there were some questionable moments. There was the “Dream Team” debacle. That wasn’t completely his fault, but many throw much of the blame for that in Reid’s lap. Other decisions led some to wonder if he had lost it completely....... READ ON 

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                If Mike McCarthy is the answer, I dont want to know what the question is.

                As Triumph the Insult Comic Dog taught us to say, he's a great coach for me to p00p on.

                The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                • L LondonBrown

                  He’s shown all year how out of date he is. 

                  The NFL has moved on from the likes of Mike McCarthy. 

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                  @londonbrown said:

                  He’s shown all year how out of date he is. 

                  The NFL has moved on from the likes of Mike McCarthy. 

                  Would you like him better, London, if he didn't have an Irish surname?

                  PS Who is your favorite Premier League team?

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                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                    Ive seen the Pack regress enough over the last 5 years to make McCarthy a hard pass as of right now. 

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                      L leebladedawg wrote on last edited by
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                      Not my first choice but we could do well with him I’m my opinion and I would rather take a shot on him than a college coach if I’m honest, especially Riley 

                      imo we need a coach who is going to get us there challenging season after season and he can do that 

                      i think he would automatically be better HC than any others in the division which would be a good platform to build on and he obviously would work alongside with Highsmith/Wolfe and Dorsey 

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                      • Browns149B Browns149

                        He’s better then any coach the Browns have had since 1999

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        @browns149 said:

                        He’s better then any coach the Browns have had since 1999

                        That is a pretty low bar. He won a lot of games with Aaron Rodgers at QB. 

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                          B beare wrote on last edited by
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                          im 50-50 on his hire  great coach  but last few years not done well

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                          • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                            @browns149 said:

                            He’s better then any coach the Browns have had since 1999

                            That is a pretty low bar. He won a lot of games with Aaron Rodgers at QB. 

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @logicisforsquares said:

                            That is a pretty low bar. He won a lot of games with Aaron Rodgers at QB. 

                            And Brett Favre?

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                              V VikingDawg wrote on last edited by
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                              Let's stop pretending homosexual soyboy Aaron Rodgers is some Peyton Manning-esque QB capable of carrying a team to win after win. Rodgers is the problem in Green Bay, not Mike McCarthy. 

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                              • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

                                @nickers said:

                                Not only that... He wouldn't have the say kind of autonomy that he does now to control and recruit the talent that he does now on the roster......

                                Maybe its just me, but I don't see why a NFL HC gig would be a step up from being HC at a place like Ohio State. You get paid as well, you get to recruit who you want, and because players only stick around for 3-5 years, your message has a far less chance to get stale. 

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                @dutch-oven said:

                                Maybe its just me, but I don't see why a NFL HC gig would be a step up from being HC at a place like Ohio State.

                                Other than "for the challenge" there really isn't any.

                                Recruiting is no picnic, however. Trading that time for more time dealing with the game could appeal to some.

                                @vikingdawg said:

                                He is better then any coach the Browns have had since Paul Brown. 

                                Can you name a McCarthy innovation?

                                @dutch-oven said:

                                Here's an article that speaks to the idea that the game has possibly passed McCarthy by... 

                                https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/10/8/17951344/green-bay-packers-mike-mccarthy-aaron-rodgers?fbclid=IwAR32eIQIicu7k2_9-EvkHZJPj0T8TMUCV740BRHwaudv3yJC9RI8Sisxt4A

                                You mean the part where they talk about the Packer Offense "stagnating"?

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                                  I'd love to see Lincoln Riley and keep Gregg Williams as D Coordinator.

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                                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                    The "McCarthy is outdated" storyline is strong among many writing about his firing, but consider the Packers points scored totals for:

                                    2014: 486 points scored (30.4/game)

                                    2015: 368 (23.0/game)

                                    2016: 432 (27.0/game)

                                    In 2017 Rodgers was knocked out for most of the season. The Packers offensive numbers have been mediocre this year with Rodgers, though. 

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                                      I'd love to see Lincoln Riley and keep Gregg Williams as D Coordinator.

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                                      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                      @baconhound said:

                                      I'd love to see Lincoln Riley and keep Gregg Williams as D Coordinator.

                                      I'm starting to have some doubts about Williams as DC. 

                                      Do you want him to stay for continuity sake or do you like the job he's done as DC? 

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                                        @londonbrown said:

                                        He’s shown all year how out of date he is. 

                                        The NFL has moved on from the likes of Mike McCarthy. 

                                        Would you like him better, London, if he didn't have an Irish surname?

                                        PS Who is your favorite Premier League team?

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                                        L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                                        @chicopee-john said:

                                        Would you like him better, London, if he didn't have an Irish surname?

                                        PS Who is your favorite Premier League team?

                                        Lol no

                                        Tottenham 

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                                        • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

                                          @baconhound said:

                                          I'd love to see Lincoln Riley and keep Gregg Williams as D Coordinator.

                                          I'm starting to have some doubts about Williams as DC. 

                                          Do you want him to stay for continuity sake or do you like the job he's done as DC? 

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                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          I'm starting to have some doubts about Williams as DC. 

                                          Do you want him to stay for continuity sake or do you like the job he's done as DC? 

                                          Continuity and I think his defense at full strength is adequate

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