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  • Not my first choice but we could do well with him I’m my opinion and I would rather take a shot on him than a college coach if I’m honest, especially Riley 

    imo we need a coach who is going to get us there challenging season after season and he can do that 

    i think he would automatically be better HC than any others in the division which would be a good platform to build on and he obviously would work alongside with Highsmith/Wolfe and Dorsey 

  • Browns149B Browns149

    He’s better then any coach the Browns have had since 1999

    @browns149 said:

    He’s better then any coach the Browns have had since 1999

    That is a pretty low bar. He won a lot of games with Aaron Rodgers at QB. 

    The GipperT Browns149B 2 Replies

  • im 50-50 on his hire  great coach  but last few years not done well

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @browns149 said:

    He’s better then any coach the Browns have had since 1999

    That is a pretty low bar. He won a lot of games with Aaron Rodgers at QB. 

    @logicisforsquares said:

    That is a pretty low bar. He won a lot of games with Aaron Rodgers at QB. 

    And Brett Favre?

  • Let's stop pretending homosexual soyboy Aaron Rodgers is some Peyton Manning-esque QB capable of carrying a team to win after win. Rodgers is the problem in Green Bay, not Mike McCarthy. 

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @nickers said:

    Not only that... He wouldn't have the say kind of autonomy that he does now to control and recruit the talent that he does now on the roster......

    Maybe its just me, but I don't see why a NFL HC gig would be a step up from being HC at a place like Ohio State. You get paid as well, you get to recruit who you want, and because players only stick around for 3-5 years, your message has a far less chance to get stale. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Maybe its just me, but I don't see why a NFL HC gig would be a step up from being HC at a place like Ohio State.

    Other than "for the challenge" there really isn't any.

    Recruiting is no picnic, however. Trading that time for more time dealing with the game could appeal to some.

    @vikingdawg said:

    He is better then any coach the Browns have had since Paul Brown. 

    Can you name a McCarthy innovation?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Here's an article that speaks to the idea that the game has possibly passed McCarthy by... 

    https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/10/8/17951344/green-bay-packers-mike-mccarthy-aaron-rodgers?fbclid=IwAR32eIQIicu7k2_9-EvkHZJPj0T8TMUCV740BRHwaudv3yJC9RI8Sisxt4A

    You mean the part where they talk about the Packer Offense "stagnating"?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • I'd love to see Lincoln Riley and keep Gregg Williams as D Coordinator.

    Dutch OvenD 1 Reply

  • The "McCarthy is outdated" storyline is strong among many writing about his firing, but consider the Packers points scored totals for:

    2014: 486 points scored (30.4/game)

    2015: 368 (23.0/game)

    2016: 432 (27.0/game)

    In 2017 Rodgers was knocked out for most of the season. The Packers offensive numbers have been mediocre this year with Rodgers, though. 

  • B BaconHound

    I'd love to see Lincoln Riley and keep Gregg Williams as D Coordinator.

    @baconhound said:

    I'd love to see Lincoln Riley and keep Gregg Williams as D Coordinator.

    I'm starting to have some doubts about Williams as DC. 

    Do you want him to stay for continuity sake or do you like the job he's done as DC? 

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  • C Chicopee John

    @londonbrown said:

    He’s shown all year how out of date he is. 

    The NFL has moved on from the likes of Mike McCarthy. 

    Would you like him better, London, if he didn't have an Irish surname?

    PS Who is your favorite Premier League team?

    @chicopee-john said:

    Would you like him better, London, if he didn't have an Irish surname?

    PS Who is your favorite Premier League team?

    Lol no

    Tottenham 

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @baconhound said:

    I'd love to see Lincoln Riley and keep Gregg Williams as D Coordinator.

    I'm starting to have some doubts about Williams as DC. 

    Do you want him to stay for continuity sake or do you like the job he's done as DC? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm starting to have some doubts about Williams as DC. 

    Do you want him to stay for continuity sake or do you like the job he's done as DC? 

    Continuity and I think his defense at full strength is adequate

  • Freddie Kitchens deserves at minimum an interview for the OC job.. i'd like to see what he can do with a full offseason

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @browns149 said:

    He’s better then any coach the Browns have had since 1999

    That is a pretty low bar. He won a lot of games with Aaron Rodgers at QB. 

    @logicisforsquares said:

    That is a pretty low bar. He won a lot of games with Aaron Rodgers at QB. 

    Aaron Rodgers won ALL his games with the same head coach. 

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • Browns149B Browns149

    @logicisforsquares said:

    That is a pretty low bar. He won a lot of games with Aaron Rodgers at QB. 

    Aaron Rodgers won ALL his games with the same head coach. 

    @browns149 said:

    Aaron Rodgers won ALL his games with the same head coach. 

    The same QB that is complaining about the coach holding the team back. The coach who is jobless.

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  • Also, hell no to Lincoln Riley. I am not keen on having the Browns be the first dip in the water for a college coach with no NFL experience. 

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @browns149 said:

    Aaron Rodgers won ALL his games with the same head coach. 

    The same QB that is complaining about the coach holding the team back. The coach who is jobless.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    The same QB that is complaining about the coach holding the team back. The coach who is jobless.

    There is the problem.  The player is more important than the coach 

    Now a days. That’s how it is

    Back in the  day it was Lombardi, Shula, Landry, Brown.  Way before Starr, Greise, Staubach, Graham

    Now the player has the money, commercials, and the owners ear

    And the coach better go along or he’s gone

    Except for NE

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @baconhound said:

    I'd love to see Lincoln Riley and keep Gregg Williams as D Coordinator.

    I'm starting to have some doubts about Williams as DC. 

    Do you want him to stay for continuity sake or do you like the job he's done as DC? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm starting to have some doubts about Williams as DC. 

    Do you want him to stay for continuity sake or do you like the job he's done as DC? 

    Same. I like he got the D gets takeaways but I don't think he's the guy who can take the D to an elite level. CLE doesn't stop the pass or run at a high level under him and you have to be great atleast at one to be a legit defense especially pass since passing numbers are crazy these days. 

    He's a likable person but I'll take results with a new guy versus keeping a guy because I like his personality.

  • It is hard for me to warm up to McCarthy.  I am hoping for something a little fresher.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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  • Their issue is chemistry, they've lost it, and one has to go....could you imagine the fan base reaction if they got rid of Rodgers?  Nothing wrong with McCarthy.

  • Browns Daily reported yesterday that Sam Wyche Tweeted or wrote that McCarthy will NOT be coaching the Browns.  I'm not sure where he got his info from, and they didn't divulge, but it's music to my ears.  I just finished listening to Gregg Williams' press conference, and I remain impressed.  I've never really listened to coach's pressers before, but I always listen to every single one of his.  I enjoy what he has to say, and while he doesn't pull any punches, he's always respectful and polite.  I'm starting to turn into a Gregg Williams believers, and I can see why players seem to like playing for him.  I really hope we get back to winning this weekend, and I think we actually will.  

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