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I don't get all the Baker hate

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  • @baconhound said:

    The Hue Jackson situation was greatly overblown.  To this point Baker is a bit overrated by fans and some in the media.  That's not a knock on him personally, like Rickie Fowler in golf, his personality makes him a lot of fans and his play has been very good at times.

    And his personality can rub some people the wrong way. 

    Let's be honest, there's a healthy dose of frat boy douchebag in Baker. 

    It is what it is. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And his personality can rub some people the wrong way. 

    Let's be honest, there's a healthy dose of frat boy douchebag in Baker. 

    It is what it is. 

    I hope they do hate baker Mayfield for a couple reasons one for the fact that he doesn’t take any shit from them 2. because he beat their ass and 3. because he can be a douche bag and then get some off their game so let them worry about Trying to fuck with him rather than worrying about their game. 

  • He might be a jerk.  But he’s our jerk

    Reminds me of Albert Belle. Belle was an a-hole. And one if the biggest jerks of all-time. But he played for us. And he was great. 

  • He’s entitled to his own opinion. Just like the media. He’s a stand up guy, it appears he never saw eye to eye with Hue and if you think about it... 

    Hue signing an ex divisional rival OC who has been an OC forever and then leaves Cleveland to go to another divisional rival. Who knows what else went on behind the scenes.

    ...We all know the “Baker you’re the back up” on Hard Knocks. Probably could’ve and should’ve been avoided.

    The media is entitled to their opinion as well, and at the end of the day... Mayfield can say whatever the F he wants

  • The Hue Jackson situation was greatly overblown.  To this point Baker is a bit overrated by fans and some in the media.  That's not a knock on him personally, like Rickie Fowler in golf, his personality makes him a lot of fans and his play has been very good at times.

    @baconhound said:

    The Hue Jackson situation was greatly overblown.  To this point Baker is a bit overrated by fans and some in the media.  That's not a knock on him personally, like Rickie Fowler in golf, his personality makes him a lot of fans and his play has been very good at times.

    I won't go digging it up, but little surprise Cow-Bell is at it again. Baker has a relatively bad game and Colon unloads his constipated bowels on Mayfield.  He wants to prove to the world he's a better talent evaluator than Dorsey.  

  • I hope they all keep it up. Baker runs on hate fire. Just let them keep fanning the flames. 

  • @baconhound said:

    The Hue Jackson situation was greatly overblown.  To this point Baker is a bit overrated by fans and some in the media.  That's not a knock on him personally, like Rickie Fowler in golf, his personality makes him a lot of fans and his play has been very good at times.

    I won't go digging it up, but little surprise Cow-Bell is at it again. Baker has a relatively bad game and Colon unloads his constipated bowels on Mayfield.  He wants to prove to the world he's a better talent evaluator than Dorsey.  

    @hoorta said:

    I won't go digging it up, but little surprise Cow-Bell is at it again. Baker has a relatively bad game and Colon unloads his constipated bowels on Mayfield.  He wants to prove to the world he's a better talent evaluator than Dorsey.  

    That's why i made the thread dude. I didn't want to, but a Colin Baker video started autoplaying on youtube when I was working. I listened and got agitated, and had to speak out against it.

  • I hope they keep talking because I believe that Mayfield is one of those guys, like Brady, who use that as a motivational tool to go out and destroy. Five super bowls later Brady has never lost the chip on his shoulder and I hope Mayfield never does either. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I hope they keep talking because I believe that Mayfield is one of those guys, like Brady, who use that as a motivational tool to go out and destroy. Five super bowls later Brady has never lost the chip on his shoulder and I hope Mayfield never does either. 

    This exactly. Keep telling him he's no good please ?

  • This is why i wanted the browns to air at least a semblance of the dirty laundry baker "clearly" and explicitly alluded to when they asked him about the postgame with hue. 

     I agreed to an extent thst baker shouldnt have jumped in this, but the fact he did and the whole team looks diff now......speaks to his point about some shit going on "in house". I wish they'd let him talk about it so that the rest of the league would understand where he was coming from

  • Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷

    I've no issue with Baker throwing shade at Hue, but he can't publicly blame his WRs.

  • You guys actually watch espn or fsone for Cleveland sports news???? Well,,,,, there’s your problem. 

     I like the local reporters that have access to the players and do one on one interviews.  These names you mention never come around, never ask a question and feel they know it all.  They don’t and you shouldn’t be listening to what they say. It’s just unbased opinions. Not news

  • Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷

    I've no issue with Baker throwing shade at Hue, but he can't publicly blame his WRs.

    @tour2ma said:

    Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷

    I've no issue with Baker throwing shade at Hue, but he can't publicly blame his WRs.

    I didn't think it came across as blaming WRs, as Baker said repeatedly that the turnovers were his fault, and that even the entire GAME was his fault. When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way in the least. It seemed like genuine analysis from Baker, and not finger pointing. And you know what? Baker is actually right. Our receivers have not done a good enough job of breaking up potential picks, and it's something to work on. Specifically, Callaway hasn't been adept at coming back for passes, and I can think of several long passes that he just kind of waited for. 

    Baker is going to learn all kinds of lessons. We're seeing them already, lol. I fear he'll always have the social media bug, and he's not the kind of guy to let things go, but there are worse things. The second half of the Texans game showed me just about everything I needed to know. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷

    I've no issue with Baker throwing shade at Hue, but he can't publicly blame his WRs.

    I didn't think it came across as blaming WRs, as Baker said repeatedly that the turnovers were his fault, and that even the entire GAME was his fault. When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way in the least. It seemed like genuine analysis from Baker, and not finger pointing. And you know what? Baker is actually right. Our receivers have not done a good enough job of breaking up potential picks, and it's something to work on. Specifically, Callaway hasn't been adept at coming back for passes, and I can think of several long passes that he just kind of waited for. 

    Baker is going to learn all kinds of lessons. We're seeing them already, lol. I fear he'll always have the social media bug, and he's not the kind of guy to let things go, but there are worse things. The second half of the Texans game showed me just about everything I needed to know. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way

    It was pointing out perceived mistakes by other team mates...with a microphone in his face.

  • You guys actually watch espn or fsone for Cleveland sports news???? Well,,,,, there’s your problem. 

     I like the local reporters that have access to the players and do one on one interviews.  These names you mention never come around, never ask a question and feel they know it all.  They don’t and you shouldn’t be listening to what they say. It’s just unbased opinions. Not news

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    You guys actually watch espn or fsone for Cleveland sports news???? Well,,,,, there’s your problem. 

     I like the local reporters that have access to the players and do one on one interviews.  These names you mention never come around, never ask a question and feel they know it all.  They don’t and you shouldn’t be listening to what they say. It’s just unbased opinions. Not news

    Like Nathan Zegura?

    He might as well wear a cheerleading outfit as "unbiased" as his opinions are regarding the Browns. 

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way

    It was pointing out perceived mistakes by other team mates...with a microphone in his face.

    @orion said:

    It was pointing out perceived mistakes by other team mates...with a microphone in his face.

    Honesty is bad? What a generation! 

  • @orion said:

    It was pointing out perceived mistakes by other team mates...with a microphone in his face.

    Honesty is bad? What a generation! 

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Honesty is bad? What a generation! 

    No. Don't talk shit on social media or with a room full of freaking jackals just waiting for you to say something stupid they can amplify into rating for their stupid a** shows..

    Taking on Hue was a case of good truth telling in public. It ignited the team and the city.. 

    Saying even the little he did about his receivers COULD have had a negative affect. Doesn't seem like anyone else picked up on it and let it go, so no harm no foul. But it could have..

    BobPound!

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    Honesty is bad? What a generation! 

    No. Don't talk shit on social media or with a room full of freaking jackals just waiting for you to say something stupid they can amplify into rating for their stupid a** shows..

    Taking on Hue was a case of good truth telling in public. It ignited the team and the city.. 

    Saying even the little he did about his receivers COULD have had a negative affect. Doesn't seem like anyone else picked up on it and let it go, so no harm no foul. But it could have..

    BobPound!

    @bobpound said:

    No. Don't talk shit on social media or with a room full of freaking jackals just waiting for you to say something stupid they can amplify into rating for their stupid a** shows..

    Taking on Hue was a case of good truth telling in public. It ignited the team and the city.. 

    Saying even the little he did about his receivers COULD have had a negative affect. Doesn't seem like anyone else picked up on it and let it go, so no harm no foul. But it could have..

    BobPound!

    Words only hurt if you let them. Stones hurt. Words just move the air

  • Baker is a big boy... He'll be fine,,,,,

  • Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷

    I've no issue with Baker throwing shade at Hue, but he can't publicly blame his WRs.

    @tour2ma said:

    Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷

    Wasn't he supposed to be the best pure passer and most "pro-ready" as well?

    54.2% comp pct, 68.8 rating, 31.1 Qbr

    Baker is going to be Baker. No one in that locker room or that building has a problem with Baker.

    In fact no one I know, non-Browns fans alike, have a problem with him.

    Then again, no one I know is offended by "Baby It's Cold Outside" either.

    Maybe, just maybe, it's just talking points to grab our eyes, ears and mice  ... and with Baker ... He's a star ... A star that speaks his mind.

    NFL all-time TD leaders ... all terrific leaders ... Everyone of them has been called "arrogant"

    1. Peyton Manning

    2. Drew Brees

    3. Tom Brady

    4. Bret Favre

    5. Dan Marino

    6. Phillip Rivers

    7. Ben Roethlisberger

  • @tour2ma said:

    Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷

    I've no issue with Baker throwing shade at Hue, but he can't publicly blame his WRs.

    I didn't think it came across as blaming WRs, as Baker said repeatedly that the turnovers were his fault, and that even the entire GAME was his fault. When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way in the least. It seemed like genuine analysis from Baker, and not finger pointing. And you know what? Baker is actually right. Our receivers have not done a good enough job of breaking up potential picks, and it's something to work on. Specifically, Callaway hasn't been adept at coming back for passes, and I can think of several long passes that he just kind of waited for. 

    Baker is going to learn all kinds of lessons. We're seeing them already, lol. I fear he'll always have the social media bug, and he's not the kind of guy to let things go, but there are worse things. The second half of the Texans game showed me just about everything I needed to know. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way in the least. It seemed like genuine analysis from Baker, and not finger pointing. And you know what? Baker is actually right.

    Was he right Sunday? With the unlikely exception of the Joseph INT his receivers had no shot at breaking up the pass.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way in the least. It seemed like genuine analysis from Baker, and not finger pointing. And you know what? Baker is actually right.

    Was he right Sunday? With the unlikely exception of the Joseph INT his receivers had no shot at breaking up the pass.

    @tour2ma said:

    Was he right Sunday? With the unlikely exception of the Joseph INT his receivers had no shot at breaking up the pass.

    The first pick could've definitely been prevented, but not by Callaway, as Higgins was the intended receiver.  Higgins didn't appear to be looking for the throw or something, it's really hard to tell.  He actually appeared to be waiting for the ball to land in his hands, which is what I believe Mayfield is talking about.  It seemed as if Higgins could've made a play on the ball for sure, and even if he couldn't break up the INT, he would have at least tackled the guy and saved the pick-6.  The second one was a late throw and an other-worldly break on the ball by defender.  It shouldn't have been thrown whatsoever, and I can't see what the receiver did wrong, unless he took the route a bit too deep or something.  Bottom line, the defender was literally waiting for Baker to throw that exact route.  Just what I see.  ?