I don't get all the Baker hate
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I hope they keep talking because I believe that Mayfield is one of those guys, like Brady, who use that as a motivational tool to go out and destroy. Five super bowls later Brady has never lost the chip on his shoulder and I hope Mayfield never does either.
I hope they keep talking because I believe that Mayfield is one of those guys, like Brady, who use that as a motivational tool to go out and destroy. Five super bowls later Brady has never lost the chip on his shoulder and I hope Mayfield never does either.
This exactly. Keep telling him he's no good please ?
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This is why i wanted the browns to air at least a semblance of the dirty laundry baker "clearly" and explicitly alluded to when they asked him about the postgame with hue.
I agreed to an extent thst baker shouldnt have jumped in this, but the fact he did and the whole team looks diff now......speaks to his point about some shit going on "in house". I wish they'd let him talk about it so that the rest of the league would understand where he was coming from
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Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷
I've no issue with Baker throwing shade at Hue, but he can't publicly blame his WRs.
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You guys actually watch espn or fsone for Cleveland sports news???? Well,,,,, there’s your problem.
I like the local reporters that have access to the players and do one on one interviews. These names you mention never come around, never ask a question and feel they know it all. They don’t and you shouldn’t be listening to what they say. It’s just unbased opinions. Not news
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Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷
I've no issue with Baker throwing shade at Hue, but he can't publicly blame his WRs.
Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷
I've no issue with Baker throwing shade at Hue, but he can't publicly blame his WRs.
I didn't think it came across as blaming WRs, as Baker said repeatedly that the turnovers were his fault, and that even the entire GAME was his fault. When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way in the least. It seemed like genuine analysis from Baker, and not finger pointing. And you know what? Baker is actually right. Our receivers have not done a good enough job of breaking up potential picks, and it's something to work on. Specifically, Callaway hasn't been adept at coming back for passes, and I can think of several long passes that he just kind of waited for.
Baker is going to learn all kinds of lessons. We're seeing them already, lol. I fear he'll always have the social media bug, and he's not the kind of guy to let things go, but there are worse things. The second half of the Texans game showed me just about everything I needed to know.
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Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷
I've no issue with Baker throwing shade at Hue, but he can't publicly blame his WRs.
I didn't think it came across as blaming WRs, as Baker said repeatedly that the turnovers were his fault, and that even the entire GAME was his fault. When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way in the least. It seemed like genuine analysis from Baker, and not finger pointing. And you know what? Baker is actually right. Our receivers have not done a good enough job of breaking up potential picks, and it's something to work on. Specifically, Callaway hasn't been adept at coming back for passes, and I can think of several long passes that he just kind of waited for.
Baker is going to learn all kinds of lessons. We're seeing them already, lol. I fear he'll always have the social media bug, and he's not the kind of guy to let things go, but there are worse things. The second half of the Texans game showed me just about everything I needed to know.
When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way
It was pointing out perceived mistakes by other team mates...with a microphone in his face.
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You guys actually watch espn or fsone for Cleveland sports news???? Well,,,,, there’s your problem.
I like the local reporters that have access to the players and do one on one interviews. These names you mention never come around, never ask a question and feel they know it all. They don’t and you shouldn’t be listening to what they say. It’s just unbased opinions. Not news
You guys actually watch espn or fsone for Cleveland sports news???? Well,,,,, there’s your problem.
I like the local reporters that have access to the players and do one on one interviews. These names you mention never come around, never ask a question and feel they know it all. They don’t and you shouldn’t be listening to what they say. It’s just unbased opinions. Not news
Like Nathan Zegura?
He might as well wear a cheerleading outfit as "unbiased" as his opinions are regarding the Browns.
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When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way
It was pointing out perceived mistakes by other team mates...with a microphone in his face.
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Honesty is bad? What a generation!
No. Don't talk shit on social media or with a room full of freaking jackals just waiting for you to say something stupid they can amplify into rating for their stupid a** shows..
Taking on Hue was a case of good truth telling in public. It ignited the team and the city..
Saying even the little he did about his receivers COULD have had a negative affect. Doesn't seem like anyone else picked up on it and let it go, so no harm no foul. But it could have..
BobPound!
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Honesty is bad? What a generation!
No. Don't talk shit on social media or with a room full of freaking jackals just waiting for you to say something stupid they can amplify into rating for their stupid a** shows..
Taking on Hue was a case of good truth telling in public. It ignited the team and the city..
Saying even the little he did about his receivers COULD have had a negative affect. Doesn't seem like anyone else picked up on it and let it go, so no harm no foul. But it could have..
BobPound!
No. Don't talk shit on social media or with a room full of freaking jackals just waiting for you to say something stupid they can amplify into rating for their stupid a** shows..
Taking on Hue was a case of good truth telling in public. It ignited the team and the city..
Saying even the little he did about his receivers COULD have had a negative affect. Doesn't seem like anyone else picked up on it and let it go, so no harm no foul. But it could have..
BobPound!
Words only hurt if you let them. Stones hurt. Words just move the air
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Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷
I've no issue with Baker throwing shade at Hue, but he can't publicly blame his WRs.
Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷
Wasn't he supposed to be the best pure passer and most "pro-ready" as well?
54.2% comp pct, 68.8 rating, 31.1 Qbr
Baker is going to be Baker. No one in that locker room or that building has a problem with Baker.
In fact no one I know, non-Browns fans alike, have a problem with him.
Then again, no one I know is offended by "Baby It's Cold Outside" either.
Maybe, just maybe, it's just talking points to grab our eyes, ears and mice ... and with Baker ... He's a star ... A star that speaks his mind.
NFL all-time TD leaders ... all terrific leaders ... Everyone of them has been called "arrogant"
1. Peyton Manning
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady
4. Bret Favre
5. Dan Marino
6. Phillip Rivers
7. Ben Roethlisberger
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Wasn't Rosen supposed to be the arrogant one in this draft class? 🥷
I've no issue with Baker throwing shade at Hue, but he can't publicly blame his WRs.
I didn't think it came across as blaming WRs, as Baker said repeatedly that the turnovers were his fault, and that even the entire GAME was his fault. When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way in the least. It seemed like genuine analysis from Baker, and not finger pointing. And you know what? Baker is actually right. Our receivers have not done a good enough job of breaking up potential picks, and it's something to work on. Specifically, Callaway hasn't been adept at coming back for passes, and I can think of several long passes that he just kind of waited for.
Baker is going to learn all kinds of lessons. We're seeing them already, lol. I fear he'll always have the social media bug, and he's not the kind of guy to let things go, but there are worse things. The second half of the Texans game showed me just about everything I needed to know.
When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way in the least. It seemed like genuine analysis from Baker, and not finger pointing. And you know what? Baker is actually right.
Was he right Sunday? With the unlikely exception of the Joseph INT his receivers had no shot at breaking up the pass.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
When Baker said the receivers needed to have correct depth and also come back to passes to break them up, it didn't strike me the wrong way in the least. It seemed like genuine analysis from Baker, and not finger pointing. And you know what? Baker is actually right.
Was he right Sunday? With the unlikely exception of the Joseph INT his receivers had no shot at breaking up the pass.
Was he right Sunday? With the unlikely exception of the Joseph INT his receivers had no shot at breaking up the pass.
The first pick could've definitely been prevented, but not by Callaway, as Higgins was the intended receiver. Higgins didn't appear to be looking for the throw or something, it's really hard to tell. He actually appeared to be waiting for the ball to land in his hands, which is what I believe Mayfield is talking about. It seemed as if Higgins could've made a play on the ball for sure, and even if he couldn't break up the INT, he would have at least tackled the guy and saved the pick-6. The second one was a late throw and an other-worldly break on the ball by defender. It shouldn't have been thrown whatsoever, and I can't see what the receiver did wrong, unless he took the route a bit too deep or something. Bottom line, the defender was literally waiting for Baker to throw that exact route. Just what I see. ?
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Baker made mistakes, but he's had more criticism for a rookie QB than I can remember.
RG3 never got this type of criticism. It wasn't until his sophomore season that he got any criticism. People like Cowherd say his personality isn't that of a leader or a QB.
I guess we can't stop the media from making outlandish claims. Baker destroying teams makes me infinitely happy though, as I'm going to love to see these media personalities eat their words.
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Baker made mistakes, but he's had more criticism for a rookie QB than I can remember.
RG3 never got this type of criticism. It wasn't until his sophomore season that he got any criticism. People like Cowherd say his personality isn't that of a leader or a QB.
I guess we can't stop the media from making outlandish claims. Baker destroying teams makes me infinitely happy though, as I'm going to love to see these media personalities eat their words.
Baker made mistakes, but he's had more criticism for a rookie QB than I can remember.
RG3 never got this type of criticism. It wasn't until his sophomore season that he got any criticism. People like Cowherd say his personality isn't that of a leader or a QB.
Goff's rookie year wasn't all the long ago. Perhaps you need Ginko Biloba...
As for RG's rookie year... there simply wasn't much to criticize. It's up there with some of the best in recent seasons.
The first pick could've definitely been prevented, but not by Callaway, as Higgins was the intended receiver. Higgins didn't appear to be looking for the throw or something, it's really hard to tell. He actually appeared to be waiting for the ball to land in his hands, which is what I believe Mayfield is talking about. It seemed as if Higgins could've made a play on the ball for sure, and even if he couldn't break up the INT, he would have at least tackled the guy and saved the pick-6. The second one was a late throw and an other-worldly break on the ball by defender. It shouldn't have been thrown whatsoever, and I can't see what the receiver did wrong, unless he took the route a bit too deep or something. Bottom line, the defender was literally waiting for Baker to throw that exact route. Just what I see. ?
We see very different things then.
Even the announcers called Callaway as the first pick's intended. If it was for Higgins, then Higgins ought to kick Baker in the nuts for trying to get him killed. Ball was so high that Higgins did not think Cunningham could reach it. Higgins even turns to look at Callaway as Cunningham stretches to make the pick. BTW.... Callaway did not settle in the hole in the zone where Baker was throwing so if Cunningham did not pick it, one of the DBs (Joseph, I think) had a shot at it.
As I said earlier, Joseph baited Baker on pick #2. He passed Callaway to the inside, held his position for a beat, then (when no other Brown showed to give him flat responsibility) started his close. Hook meet line and sinker...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Baker made mistakes, but he's had more criticism for a rookie QB than I can remember.
RG3 never got this type of criticism. It wasn't until his sophomore season that he got any criticism. People like Cowherd say his personality isn't that of a leader or a QB.
Goff's rookie year wasn't all the long ago. Perhaps you need Ginko Biloba...
As for RG's rookie year... there simply wasn't much to criticize. It's up there with some of the best in recent seasons.
The first pick could've definitely been prevented, but not by Callaway, as Higgins was the intended receiver. Higgins didn't appear to be looking for the throw or something, it's really hard to tell. He actually appeared to be waiting for the ball to land in his hands, which is what I believe Mayfield is talking about. It seemed as if Higgins could've made a play on the ball for sure, and even if he couldn't break up the INT, he would have at least tackled the guy and saved the pick-6. The second one was a late throw and an other-worldly break on the ball by defender. It shouldn't have been thrown whatsoever, and I can't see what the receiver did wrong, unless he took the route a bit too deep or something. Bottom line, the defender was literally waiting for Baker to throw that exact route. Just what I see. ?
We see very different things then.
Even the announcers called Callaway as the first pick's intended. If it was for Higgins, then Higgins ought to kick Baker in the nuts for trying to get him killed. Ball was so high that Higgins did not think Cunningham could reach it. Higgins even turns to look at Callaway as Cunningham stretches to make the pick. BTW.... Callaway did not settle in the hole in the zone where Baker was throwing so if Cunningham did not pick it, one of the DBs (Joseph, I think) had a shot at it.
As I said earlier, Joseph baited Baker on pick #2. He passed Callaway to the inside, held his position for a beat, then (when no other Brown showed to give him flat responsibility) started his close. Hook meet line and sinker...
Goff's rookie year wasn't all the long ago. Perhaps you need Ginko Biloba...
As for RG's rookie year... there simply wasn't much to criticize. It's up there with some of the best in recent seasons.
We see very different things then.
Even the announcers called Callaway as the first pick's intended. If it was for Higgins, then Higgins ought to kick Baker in the nuts for trying to get him killed. Ball was so high that Higgins did not think Cunningham could reach it. Higgins even turns to look at Callaway as Cunningham stretches to make the pick. BTW.... Callaway did not settle in the hole in the zone where Baker was throwing so if Cunningham did not pick it, one of the DBs (Joseph, I think) had a shot at it.
As I said earlier, Joseph baited Baker on pick #2. He passed Callaway to the inside, held his position for a beat, then (when no other Brown showed to give him flat responsibility) started his close. Hook meet line and sinker...
I for sure think Goff was criticized and that it was justified to a certain extent, but I never saw anyone attack his personality like Baker's. And Goff didn't even know on hard knocks which direction the sun sets.
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Baker made mistakes, but he's had more criticism for a rookie QB than I can remember.
RG3 never got this type of criticism. It wasn't until his sophomore season that he got any criticism. People like Cowherd say his personality isn't that of a leader or a QB.
I guess we can't stop the media from making outlandish claims. Baker destroying teams makes me infinitely happy though, as I'm going to love to see these media personalities eat their words.
Baker made mistakes, but he's had more criticism for a rookie QB than I can remember.
RG3 never got this type of criticism. It wasn't until his sophomore season that he got any criticism. People like Cowherd say his personality isn't that of a leader or a QB.
I guess we can't stop the media from making outlandish claims. Baker destroying teams makes me infinitely happy though, as I'm going to love to see these media personalities eat their words.
RG3 had a much better rookie year.
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Baker made mistakes, but he's had more criticism for a rookie QB than I can remember.
RG3 never got this type of criticism. It wasn't until his sophomore season that he got any criticism. People like Cowherd say his personality isn't that of a leader or a QB.
I guess we can't stop the media from making outlandish claims. Baker destroying teams makes me infinitely happy though, as I'm going to love to see these media personalities eat their words.
RG3 had a much better rookie year.
RG3 had a much better rookie year.
But all of the sportscasters didn't say Tannehill, Foles, Cousins, and Wilson would all be better quarterbacks than him during that year when he was balling out like Cowherd has said about Baker.
Are we saying that the argument Baker will fail because of his attitude is valid? Because that's what they're arguing. That's what Cowherd argues everyday on T.V. He never even admitted he was wrong when calling him a bust.
My argument > He doesn't deserve all of the criticism from the Hue situation, especially when Jameis Winston's sexual assault case was settled. No talk about that. Why does Baker get all of the hate? Because the networks want to see Cleveland fail and him be a bust for headlines.
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The first five minutes or so are Baker. Hatahs gonna hate.
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