Id like to see the Browns def emulate something from the texans D next year....
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Sure. I'm not sure if he'd be an end though. He's being projected at OLB. Ogbah is bigger too.
Better chance we take Gary (or Bush) than Winovich I think.
Man crush on Bush this draft. Kid could step in for Jamie or Kirk and be an upgrade.
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Sure. I'm not sure if he'd be an end though. He's being projected at OLB. Ogbah is bigger too.
Better chance we take Gary (or Bush) than Winovich I think.
Man crush on Bush this draft. Kid could step in for Jamie or Kirk and be an upgrade.
Man crush on Bush this draft. Kid could step in for Jamie or Kirk and be an upgrade.
I can see Bush as a late 2nd to early 4th round pick. If we want a LB as our 2nd round pick, there are better ones out there. All depends on our last 3 games where we are in the draft order and who Dorsey wants added to round out this team.
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Mcshay has us taking some monster DT from miss st
Mcshay has us taking some monster DT from miss st
Todd's changed his mind already?
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Man crush on Bush this draft. Kid could step in for Jamie or Kirk and be an upgrade.
I can see Bush as a late 2nd to early 4th round pick. If we want a LB as our 2nd round pick, there are better ones out there. All depends on our last 3 games where we are in the draft order and who Dorsey wants added to round out this team.
I can see Bush as a late 2nd to early 4th round pick. If we want a LB as our 2nd round pick, there are better ones out there. All depends on our last 3 games where we are in the draft order and who Dorsey wants added to round out this team.
Bush is gonna be long gone by then man...
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What is your term of preference, good sir?
My term of preference depends on the philosophy and coach.
Right now, no, but players grow and I think Avery has already shown growth.
Of course the other side of my comment is Kirk's game. Clearly he's regressed this season. The question is why. If due to injury, then he has a shot at holding Avery off. However, if it's not...
Avery has shown growth but positioning him to take over as a full time WLB might be asking much. I don't think he's fluid enough laterally and downfield to cover well plus those snaps would take away from what he has shown to be solid at - rushing the passer.
You're not concerned about his size?
Depends on where we align him and who we place in front of him. But his ability to run, hit, tackle and cover is pretty evident to my eyes. He's listed as 6'1 235 so that means he's 6'0 225-230ish. Really he isn't much smaller than Kirksey.
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What is your term of preference, good sir?
My term of preference depends on the philosophy and coach.
Right now, no, but players grow and I think Avery has already shown growth.
Of course the other side of my comment is Kirk's game. Clearly he's regressed this season. The question is why. If due to injury, then he has a shot at holding Avery off. However, if it's not...
Avery has shown growth but positioning him to take over as a full time WLB might be asking much. I don't think he's fluid enough laterally and downfield to cover well plus those snaps would take away from what he has shown to be solid at - rushing the passer.
You're not concerned about his size?
Depends on where we align him and who we place in front of him. But his ability to run, hit, tackle and cover is pretty evident to my eyes. He's listed as 6'1 235 so that means he's 6'0 225-230ish. Really he isn't much smaller than Kirksey.
My term of preference depends on the philosophy and coach.
A 4-3 is a 4-3. Two DTs, two edge, 3 LBs.
3-4 has one NT, 2 ends, and 2 MLBs.
am I missing something?
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A 4-3 is a 4-3. Two DTs, two edge, 3 LBs.
3-4 has one NT, 2 ends, and 2 MLBs.
am I missing something?
1 NT, 1 DT, 1 DT/DE
If we're nitty pickin
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I can see Bush as a late 2nd to early 4th round pick. If we want a LB as our 2nd round pick, there are better ones out there. All depends on our last 3 games where we are in the draft order and who Dorsey wants added to round out this team.
Bush is gonna be long gone by then man...
Bush is gonna be long gone by then man...
By late second? I doubt it. Too many good defenders ahead of him.
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A 4-3 is a 4-3. Two DTs, two edge, 3 LBs.
3-4 has one NT, 2 ends, and 2 MLBs.
am I missing something?
4 man fronts have a 'nose' assignment in classic terminology. And what are the personnel like in your 43? Ive seen peppers align in our base looks as a 43 stack backer but that would be a nickel personnel.
In a 34 you don't always have a traditional 350lb nose in some 1 gap schemes - Ask Wade philips.
If you're using simple, base defense terms then sure, that's fine. But that isn't how football works much anymore and if you think 1 gap hogging monsters can't work in a 4 man front and that you need two "DT" s...then I'll be happy to provide you with plenty of examples to the counter.
What about odd or ENT fronts and using a 2pt backer on the end? So many ways to align that being so simple is criminal.
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I can't believe we're actually having a discussion about Avery full-time.. he's the lowest-rated edge in coverage in the league.. even if he improves from current level I don't have confidence he'll improve all the way up to "average".. Yes it would be nice to be wrong but he was drafted in the correct round and unless he flashes in the preseason, depth is a good problem to have.
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Bush is gonna be long gone by then man...
By late second? I doubt it. Too many good defenders ahead of him.
By late second? I doubt it. Too many good defenders ahead of him.
Kiper has Bush at #10 overall
McShay has him going #21 to the Ravens
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if williams stays? GW could care less with what works for Crennel & the Texans.(just ask him
). In GW system, I can see 2 DT's under 300 hundy at Bama & 1 at Auburn that could move a pocket..were far from DT FA's list that wreck drafting ideas..but that's why Dorsey hires guys like Wolfe & Highsmith.Go for it dudes, i love new thoughts & ideas. who cares. but has Elway learned about himself drafting QB's yet?..ya think Elway will ever lower his ego to hire a scout like Scott McLaughlin this off season for QB advice? dorsey did ..tick tock..
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By late second? I doubt it. Too many good defenders ahead of him.
Kiper has Bush at #10 overall
McShay has him going #21 to the Ravens
Kiper has Bush at #10 overall
McShay has him going #21 to the Ravens
Walter football has him rounds 2-4, CBS out of the 1st (they only do one at the moment), draftwire early 2nd. I'd take LSUs White before either of those mentioned.
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Kiper has Bush at #10 overall
McShay has him going #21 to the Ravens
Walter football has him rounds 2-4, CBS out of the 1st (they only do one at the moment), draftwire early 2nd. I'd take LSUs White before either of those mentioned.
Walter football has him rounds 2-4, CBS out of the 1st (they only do one at the moment), draftwire early 2nd. I'd take LSUs White before either of those mentioned.
Well I guess we'll see what happens. It will all come down to how comfortable the NFL is with his size, because he can do everything else.
Then again, he might not even come out.
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