Would You Shut Down Denzel Ward or Baker Mayfield?
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Gregg Williams mentioned that Denzel Ward was progressing through the concussion protocol, and then I had a thought, "Is it even worth bringing him back?" If we're out of the playoff race, we've only got two games left, and I'm pretty sure this is Denzel's 2nd concussion (I could be wrong), is it even worth playing him this year considering concussions are easier to get once you've had one, AND they're literally a brain injury? If it were me, I'd sit him down. He's shown me enough, and I want him to get healthy and also protect his melon. He'll be ready to kick azz next year.
I've also heard an argument that we should sit Baker Mayfield because we're out of the playoffs and why risk an injury when you're a team that hasn't had a franchise QB in 20 years, and we FINALLY have one? At first I scoffed at the idea of sitting Baker, but then the nightmare of "What happens if he gets hurt?" started creeping in my mind, and I about threw up, LMAO. In all seriousness, I would most certainly NOT sit Baker. If we had locked up the playoffs and we couldn't improve our seating in week 17, that's one thing. I could see sitting some starters like the Steelers and other teams have done over the years. But Baker is a rookie, and while he's playing well, he still has much to learn and the best way to learn is to play. Also, I seriously doubt Baker WOULD sit out if the coaches told him to, hahaha.
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I’m ok with Ward sitting.
I’d imagine Mayfield playing and developing his reads for the rest of the year. While also piling up stats for a potential rookie of the year. (3500+ yards) right now he’s at:
3,065 yds, 21 TD/11 int, 92.6 rating. Not too shabby... for a Browns rookie QB.
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Ward, maybe, for the reasons you mention. Not Baker. These are still division games, and he needs to know what it is like to play a full AFCN schedule and to know what it takes to beat the (B)itchy Pussies and the Ratrapers. As long as he is not hurt. But...if he get's pinched somehow, then perhaps.
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Ward maybe but the same logic applies to him as it does to Baker. He's still a rookie learning how to play in the NFL so if he's healthy, he should be out there playing. Sitting Baker is just stupid. He need to be playing and playing in real games. He's still a rookie and while he's played very well as a rookie, he's still learning and he isn't going to learn at this point watching Tyrod play QB the last 2 weeks. Play to win the last 2 games. 8-7-1 would be a great way to end the season. 7-8-1 isn't really all that bad considering where this team was the last 2 seasons.
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If Ward is healthy, I'd play him. No different now to next season if he's healthy now.
Baker I'd for sure play because he needs the reps
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Think I would shut down Ward, missed what, last 2 games? And we know how the Concussion Protocol in the NFL works(wink wink) I just don't see a concussion as a 2 week heal, give that head a good time to rest. Mayfield, keep him playing, hopefully he gets to see a good old Northeast Ohio snow storm and play in it. Or just the bitter cold coming off the lake.
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Ward? Yes... This is his 2nd time in protocol. Takes longer for the brain to truly recover than it does to clear protocol. And it's not like we don't know what we have in him. Use the reamining games to evaluate/develop CB depth.
Baker? Play him... let him learn... if either game gets out of hand (either way), then give a backup some reps... probably TT to get some more of his play on tape under Kitchens.
Aside: Given the apparent chemistry in the QB room between Baker and Stanton (who is under contract thru 2019), they are the core to which we can add a "prospect" Day 2 or 3 of the upcoming draft.
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Ward? Yes... This is his 2nd time in protocol. Takes longer for the brain to truly recover than it does to clear protocol. And it's not like we don't know what we have in him. Use the reamining games to evaluate/develop CB depth.
Baker? Play him... let him learn... if either game gets out of hand (either way), then give a backup some reps... probably TT to get some more of his play on tape under Kitchens.
Aside: Given the apparent chemistry in the QB room between Baker and Stanton (who is under contract thru 2019), they are the core to which we can add a "prospect" Day 2 or 3 of the upcoming draft.
Ward? Yes... This is his 2nd time in protocol. Takes longer for the brain to truly recover than it does to clear protocol. And it's not like we don't know what we have in him. Use the reamining games to evaluate/develop CB depth.
Baker? Play him... let him learn... if either game gets out of hand (either way), then give a backup some reps... probably TT to get some more of his play on tape under Kitchens.
Aside: Given the apparent chemistry in the QB room between Baker and Stanton (who is under contract thru 2019), they are the core to which we can add a "prospect" Day 2 or 3 of the upcoming draft.
I wonder if our boy Benkert can be had off the Dirty Birds practice squad...
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Ward? Yes... This is his 2nd time in protocol. Takes longer for the brain to truly recover than it does to clear protocol. And it's not like we don't know what we have in him. Use the reamining games to evaluate/develop CB depth.
Baker? Play him... let him learn... if either game gets out of hand (either way), then give a backup some reps... probably TT to get some more of his play on tape under Kitchens.
Aside: Given the apparent chemistry in the QB room between Baker and Stanton (who is under contract thru 2019), they are the core to which we can add a "prospect" Day 2 or 3 of the upcoming draft.
I wonder if our boy Benkert can be had off the Dirty Birds practice squad...
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Gregg Williams mentioned that Denzel Ward was progressing through the concussion protocol, and then I had a thought, "Is it even worth bringing him back?" If we're out of the playoff race, we've only got two games left, and I'm pretty sure this is Denzel's 2nd concussion (I could be wrong), is it even worth playing him this year considering concussions are easier to get once you've had one, AND they're literally a brain injury? If it were me, I'd sit him down. He's shown me enough, and I want him to get healthy and also protect his melon. He'll be ready to kick azz next year.
I've also heard an argument that we should sit Baker Mayfield because we're out of the playoffs and why risk an injury when you're a team that hasn't had a franchise QB in 20 years, and we FINALLY have one? At first I scoffed at the idea of sitting Baker, but then the nightmare of "What happens if he gets hurt?" started creeping in my mind, and I about threw up, LMAO. In all seriousness, I would most certainly NOT sit Baker. If we had locked up the playoffs and we couldn't improve our seating in week 17, that's one thing. I could see sitting some starters like the Steelers and other teams have done over the years. But Baker is a rookie, and while he's playing well, he still has much to learn and the best way to learn is to play. Also, I seriously doubt Baker WOULD sit out if the coaches told him to, hahaha.
Gregg Williams mentioned that Denzel Ward was progressing through the concussion protocol, and then I had a thought, "Is it even worth bringing him back?" If we're out of the playoff race, we've only got two games left, and I'm pretty sure this is Denzel's 2nd concussion (I could be wrong), is it even worth playing him this year considering concussions are easier to get once you've had one, AND they're literally a brain injury? If it were me, I'd sit him down. He's shown me enough, and I want him to get healthy and also protect his melon. He'll be ready to kick azz next year.
I've also heard an argument that we should sit Baker Mayfield because we're out of the playoffs and why risk an injury when you're a team that hasn't had a franchise QB in 20 years, and we FINALLY have one? At first I scoffed at the idea of sitting Baker, but then the nightmare of "What happens if he gets hurt?" started creeping in my mind, and I about threw up, LMAO. In all seriousness, I would most certainly NOT sit Baker. If we had locked up the playoffs and we couldn't improve our seating in week 17, that's one thing. I could see sitting some starters like the Steelers and other teams have done over the years. But Baker is a rookie, and while he's playing well, he still has much to learn and the best way to learn is to play. Also, I seriously doubt Baker WOULD sit out if the coaches told him to, hahaha.
good point with ward, but not baker.....by the way, we have not yet been eliminated although its probably less than 1 percent chance....but...i'd like to see that little orange helmet still on the in the hunt category at least till the last game.....that would be almost as awesome as beating the ravens and ruining their playoff hunt like the bengals did to them last yr....
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If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?
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Gregg Williams mentioned that Denzel Ward was progressing through the concussion protocol, and then I had a thought, "Is it even worth bringing him back?" If we're out of the playoff race, we've only got two games left, and I'm pretty sure this is Denzel's 2nd concussion (I could be wrong), is it even worth playing him this year considering concussions are easier to get once you've had one, AND they're literally a brain injury? If it were me, I'd sit him down. He's shown me enough, and I want him to get healthy and also protect his melon. He'll be ready to kick azz next year.
I've also heard an argument that we should sit Baker Mayfield because we're out of the playoffs and why risk an injury when you're a team that hasn't had a franchise QB in 20 years, and we FINALLY have one? At first I scoffed at the idea of sitting Baker, but then the nightmare of "What happens if he gets hurt?" started creeping in my mind, and I about threw up, LMAO. In all seriousness, I would most certainly NOT sit Baker. If we had locked up the playoffs and we couldn't improve our seating in week 17, that's one thing. I could see sitting some starters like the Steelers and other teams have done over the years. But Baker is a rookie, and while he's playing well, he still has much to learn and the best way to learn is to play. Also, I seriously doubt Baker WOULD sit out if the coaches told him to, hahaha.
good point with ward, but not baker.....by the way, we have not yet been eliminated although its probably less than 1 percent chance....but...i'd like to see that little orange helmet still on the in the hunt category at least till the last game.....that would be almost as awesome as beating the ravens and ruining their playoff hunt like the bengals did to them last yr....
good point with ward, but not baker.....by the way, we have not yet been eliminated although its probably less than 1 percent chance....but...i'd like to see that little orange helmet still on the in the hunt category at least till the last game.....that would be almost as awesome as beating the ravens and ruining their playoff hunt like the bengals did to them last yr....
Oh I'm totally with you. I'm having so much fun watching #6 out there.
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If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?
If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?
Depends on what the Steelers do.
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If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?
If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?
At this point who cares.. the Stools arent going far with that meager defense...
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If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?
If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?
not sure......i can't see the steelers beating the saints....then they play the bengals the last game at home....ehhhhh...me thinks they somehow pull that one out especially with aj green out....but who knows...this time of the yr drives me crazy with all the possibilities....
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If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?
At this point who cares.. the Stools arent going far with that meager defense...
At this point who cares.. the Stools arent going far with that meager defense...
their d looked pretty good against the pats.....however they are very inconsistant....my guess is when they go on the road the meager d shows up again....
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