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Would You Shut Down Denzel Ward or Baker Mayfield?

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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    If Ward is healthy, I'd play him. No different now to next season if he's healthy now.

    Baker I'd for sure play because he needs the reps

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      Think I would shut down Ward, missed what, last 2 games? And we know how the Concussion Protocol in the NFL works(wink wink) I just don't see a concussion as a 2 week heal, give that head a good time to rest. Mayfield, keep him playing, hopefully he gets to see a good old Northeast Ohio snow storm and play in it. Or just the bitter cold coming off the lake.

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        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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        Ward? Yes... This is his 2nd time in protocol. Takes longer for the brain to truly recover than it does to clear protocol. And it's not like we don't know what we have in him. Use the reamining games to evaluate/develop CB depth.

        Baker? Play him... let him learn... if either game gets out of hand (either way), then give a backup some reps... probably TT to get some more of his play on tape under Kitchens.

        Aside: Given the apparent chemistry in the QB room between Baker and Stanton (who is under contract thru 2019), they are the core to which we can add a "prospect" Day 2 or 3 of the upcoming draft.

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          Ward? Yes... This is his 2nd time in protocol. Takes longer for the brain to truly recover than it does to clear protocol. And it's not like we don't know what we have in him. Use the reamining games to evaluate/develop CB depth.

          Baker? Play him... let him learn... if either game gets out of hand (either way), then give a backup some reps... probably TT to get some more of his play on tape under Kitchens.

          Aside: Given the apparent chemistry in the QB room between Baker and Stanton (who is under contract thru 2019), they are the core to which we can add a "prospect" Day 2 or 3 of the upcoming draft.

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          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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          @tour2ma said:

          Ward? Yes... This is his 2nd time in protocol. Takes longer for the brain to truly recover than it does to clear protocol. And it's not like we don't know what we have in him. Use the reamining games to evaluate/develop CB depth.

          Baker? Play him... let him learn... if either game gets out of hand (either way), then give a backup some reps... probably TT to get some more of his play on tape under Kitchens.

          Aside: Given the apparent chemistry in the QB room between Baker and Stanton (who is under contract thru 2019), they are the core to which we can add a "prospect" Day 2 or 3 of the upcoming draft.

          I wonder if our boy Benkert can be had off the Dirty Birds practice squad... 

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            Ward? Yes... This is his 2nd time in protocol. Takes longer for the brain to truly recover than it does to clear protocol. And it's not like we don't know what we have in him. Use the reamining games to evaluate/develop CB depth.

            Baker? Play him... let him learn... if either game gets out of hand (either way), then give a backup some reps... probably TT to get some more of his play on tape under Kitchens.

            Aside: Given the apparent chemistry in the QB room between Baker and Stanton (who is under contract thru 2019), they are the core to which we can add a "prospect" Day 2 or 3 of the upcoming draft.

            I wonder if our boy Benkert can be had off the Dirty Birds practice squad... 

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            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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            @tiamat63 said:

            I wonder if our boy Benkert can be had off the Dirty Birds practice squad... 

            Interesting...

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              Gregg Williams mentioned that Denzel Ward was progressing through the concussion protocol, and then I had a thought, "Is it even worth bringing him back?"  If we're out of the playoff race, we've only got two games left, and I'm pretty sure this is Denzel's 2nd concussion (I could be wrong), is it even worth playing him this year considering concussions are easier to get once you've had one, AND they're literally a brain injury?  If it were me, I'd sit him down.  He's shown me enough, and I want him to get healthy and also protect his melon.  He'll be ready to kick azz next year.  

              I've also heard an argument that we should sit Baker Mayfield because we're out of the playoffs and why risk an injury when you're a team that hasn't had a franchise QB in 20 years, and we FINALLY have one?  At first I scoffed at the idea of sitting Baker, but then the nightmare of "What happens if he gets hurt?" started creeping in my mind, and I about threw up, LMAO.  In all seriousness, I would most certainly NOT sit Baker.  If we had locked up the playoffs and we couldn't improve our seating in week 17, that's one thing.  I could see sitting some starters like the Steelers and other teams have done over the years.  But Baker is a rookie, and while he's playing well, he still has much to learn and the best way to learn is to play.  Also, I seriously doubt Baker WOULD sit out if the coaches told him to, hahaha.  

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              @jiggins7919 said:

              Gregg Williams mentioned that Denzel Ward was progressing through the concussion protocol, and then I had a thought, "Is it even worth bringing him back?"  If we're out of the playoff race, we've only got two games left, and I'm pretty sure this is Denzel's 2nd concussion (I could be wrong), is it even worth playing him this year considering concussions are easier to get once you've had one, AND they're literally a brain injury?  If it were me, I'd sit him down.  He's shown me enough, and I want him to get healthy and also protect his melon.  He'll be ready to kick azz next year.  

              I've also heard an argument that we should sit Baker Mayfield because we're out of the playoffs and why risk an injury when you're a team that hasn't had a franchise QB in 20 years, and we FINALLY have one?  At first I scoffed at the idea of sitting Baker, but then the nightmare of "What happens if he gets hurt?" started creeping in my mind, and I about threw up, LMAO.  In all seriousness, I would most certainly NOT sit Baker.  If we had locked up the playoffs and we couldn't improve our seating in week 17, that's one thing.  I could see sitting some starters like the Steelers and other teams have done over the years.  But Baker is a rookie, and while he's playing well, he still has much to learn and the best way to learn is to play.  Also, I seriously doubt Baker WOULD sit out if the coaches told him to, hahaha.  

              good point with ward, but not baker.....by the way, we have not yet been eliminated although its probably less than 1 percent chance....but...i'd like to see that little orange helmet still on the in the hunt category at least till the last game.....that would be almost as awesome as beating the ravens and ruining their playoff hunt like the bengals did to them last yr....

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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?

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                  That schidt always backfires and they blow an achilles in training camp

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                    @jiggins7919 said:

                    Gregg Williams mentioned that Denzel Ward was progressing through the concussion protocol, and then I had a thought, "Is it even worth bringing him back?"  If we're out of the playoff race, we've only got two games left, and I'm pretty sure this is Denzel's 2nd concussion (I could be wrong), is it even worth playing him this year considering concussions are easier to get once you've had one, AND they're literally a brain injury?  If it were me, I'd sit him down.  He's shown me enough, and I want him to get healthy and also protect his melon.  He'll be ready to kick azz next year.  

                    I've also heard an argument that we should sit Baker Mayfield because we're out of the playoffs and why risk an injury when you're a team that hasn't had a franchise QB in 20 years, and we FINALLY have one?  At first I scoffed at the idea of sitting Baker, but then the nightmare of "What happens if he gets hurt?" started creeping in my mind, and I about threw up, LMAO.  In all seriousness, I would most certainly NOT sit Baker.  If we had locked up the playoffs and we couldn't improve our seating in week 17, that's one thing.  I could see sitting some starters like the Steelers and other teams have done over the years.  But Baker is a rookie, and while he's playing well, he still has much to learn and the best way to learn is to play.  Also, I seriously doubt Baker WOULD sit out if the coaches told him to, hahaha.  

                    good point with ward, but not baker.....by the way, we have not yet been eliminated although its probably less than 1 percent chance....but...i'd like to see that little orange helmet still on the in the hunt category at least till the last game.....that would be almost as awesome as beating the ravens and ruining their playoff hunt like the bengals did to them last yr....

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                    jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                    @browns52 said:

                    good point with ward, but not baker.....by the way, we have not yet been eliminated although its probably less than 1 percent chance....but...i'd like to see that little orange helmet still on the in the hunt category at least till the last game.....that would be almost as awesome as beating the ravens and ruining their playoff hunt like the bengals did to them last yr....

                    Oh I'm totally with you. I'm having so much fun watching #6 out there. 

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                        If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?

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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?

                        Depends on what the Steelers do. 

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                          If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?

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                          @clevfan4life said:

                          If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?

                          At this point who cares.. the Stools arent going far with that meager defense...

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                            If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?

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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?

                            not sure......i can't see the steelers beating the saints....then they play the bengals the last game at home....ehhhhh...me thinks they somehow pull that one out especially with aj green out....but who knows...this time of the yr drives me crazy with all the possibilities....

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                              @clevfan4life said:

                              If we beat the ravens, doesnt thst ensure the steelers are in?

                              At this point who cares.. the Stools arent going far with that meager defense...

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                              @nickers said:

                              At this point who cares.. the Stools arent going far with that meager defense...

                              their d looked pretty good against the pats.....however they are very inconsistant....my guess is when they go on the road the meager d shows up again....

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                                At this point who cares.. the Stools arent going far with that meager defense...

                                their d looked pretty good against the pats.....however they are very inconsistant....my guess is when they go on the road the meager d shows up again....

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                                @browns52 said:

                                their d looked pretty good against the pats.....however they are very inconsistant....my guess is when they go on the road the meager d shows up again....

                                The pats are getting old.. Gordon disappeared.. Next year Bill will cut Brady for diminishing skills...

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                                  @nickers said:

                                  At this point who cares.. the Stools arent going far with that meager defense...

                                  their d looked pretty good against the pats.....however they are very inconsistant....my guess is when they go on the road the meager d shows up again....

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                                  @browns52 said:

                                  their d looked pretty good against the pats.....however they are very inconsistant....my guess is when they go on the road the meager d shows up again....

                                  We shall see in NO.

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                                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                    I'm going to be honest: 

                                    I think Ward is a helluva talent, but I'm concerned about his ability to stay on the field.

                                    Sit him the rest the last two games, and pray to the patron saint of cornerbacks that I'm wrong about him long term. 

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                                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                      That's 'Pro Bowler' Denzel Ward to you,  sir. 

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                                        I'm going to be honest: 

                                        I think Ward is a helluva talent, but I'm concerned about his ability to stay on the field.

                                        Sit him the rest the last two games, and pray to the patron saint of cornerbacks that I'm wrong about him long term. 

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                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        I think Ward is a helluva talent, but I'm concerned about his ability to stay on the field.

                                        yup!

                                        I'm certain we'll be drafting at least one CB.

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                                          If they are healthy, they play. 

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