Peter King on Baker and Kitchens
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Hire Arians and Kitchens will most likely stay.
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The future of this franchise is Baker Mayfield and if he’s all in on Freddie Kitchens he has to stay
The future of this franchise is Baker Mayfield and if he’s all in on Freddie Kitchens he has to stay
After reading that article, you do whatever is necessary to get Kitchens to stay. But the Browns make the playoffs in 2019 with the Mayfield\Kitchens duo, it's going to be tough to keep Freddie around. DeFlippo who?
Apparently Dorsey saw something when he fired Haley and promoted Kitchens to OC.
Two more wins, and MHO is Williams comes along for the ride...
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The future of this franchise is Baker Mayfield and if he’s all in on Freddie Kitchens he has to stay
After reading that article, you do whatever is necessary to get Kitchens to stay. But the Browns make the playoffs in 2019 with the Mayfield\Kitchens duo, it's going to be tough to keep Freddie around. DeFlippo who?
Apparently Dorsey saw something when he fired Haley and promoted Kitchens to OC.
Two more wins, and MHO is Williams comes along for the ride...
After reading that article, you do whatever is necessary to get Kitchens to stay. But the Browns make the playoffs in 2019 with the Mayfield\Kitchens duo, it's going to be tough to keep Freddie around. DeFlippo who?
Apparently Dorsey saw something when he fired Haley and promoted Kitchens to OC.
Two more wins, and MHO is Williams comes along for the ride...
It will be tough to keep him around but I'd guess the hope is that whoever is under Kitchens on the coaching depth chart (Ryan Lindley maybe) could step up and Baker in year 3 would be able to be his own OC at that point.
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Hire Arians and Kitchens will most likely stay.
I mentioned this before, but Arians and Kitchens might not be as chummy as some people assume. When Kitchens coached under Arians, Kitchens was removed as QB coach and moved to RB coach for Byron Leftwich, and according to some who knew the situation, Kitchens was none to pleased.
Arians being named head coach does not necessarily mean he'd want Kitchens or Kitchens would want to stay to coach under Arians again.
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“Why?” Stanton said. “Because Luke Kuechly is one of the smartest players in the league. You don’t fool him. You’ve got to show him stuff to make him think.”
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I love that. Kosar loved to haul off and throw a bomb on the first play of a game once in a while, just to mess with the defensive players' minds. Make them think. Kitchens just has to stay, and I think the players love Williams. Aggressive football, flat out.
The players are the key, to me. They are playing emotionally at a high TEAM level. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" absolutely.
We'll see. But the more I read, the more I see that Willaims and Kitchens are on the same page, and get along excellently, especially in regard to Baker and his important ability to change a play at the los.
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'Mayfield noticed Broncos defenders following his playmakers out of the huddle and discerned that Denver was playing man coverage. Then he noticed Justin Simmons — usually a safety — guarding Callaway one-on-one. From there, it was easy. He just needed to wait for Callaway to beat Simmons and throw an accurate pass.
“Pretty doggone good,” coach Gregg Williams said of Mayfield’s line-of-scrimmage changes. “We had the play call, (and) he saw what they were in. It does not make any difference what (offensive coordinator) Freddie (Kitchens) and I think, it is what Baker sees, and that is another step that you have to (take), and the big time guys do that all of the time.”"
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Link?
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according to jay glazer The Browns have allready locked up Kitchens as are o.c
Did you see the Panthers game last night? They freaking ran almost the EXACT same play as those two Landry misdirection runs, only a week after playing us. They always say the NFL is a copycat league, and it's true. Guess what? The play worked beautifully, lol. Only problem is that the receiver didn't tuck the ball and he had a HUGE fumble after running 20 yards. What a killer.
I honestly don't see how you can fire Gregg Williams and Freddie Kitchens. It really doesn't seem like a possibility. And I'll go one further. I'd actually announce the extension of Williams and Kitchens now. It would galvanize the team and cement the fact that this group of men is trying to make something special, and even if we can't go to the playoffs this year, we're going to have the same group of players and coaches next year, so stay hungry, stay fired up, and we'll see everyone in a few months.
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according to jay glazer The Browns have allready locked up Kitchens as are o.c
Did you see the Panthers game last night? They freaking ran almost the EXACT same play as those two Landry misdirection runs, only a week after playing us. They always say the NFL is a copycat league, and it's true. Guess what? The play worked beautifully, lol. Only problem is that the receiver didn't tuck the ball and he had a HUGE fumble after running 20 yards. What a killer.
I honestly don't see how you can fire Gregg Williams and Freddie Kitchens. It really doesn't seem like a possibility. And I'll go one further. I'd actually announce the extension of Williams and Kitchens now. It would galvanize the team and cement the fact that this group of men is trying to make something special, and even if we can't go to the playoffs this year, we're going to have the same group of players and coaches next year, so stay hungry, stay fired up, and we'll see everyone in a few months.
Did you see the Panthers game last night? They freaking ran almost the EXACT same play as those two Landry misdirection runs, only a week after playing us. They always say the NFL is a copycat league, and it's true. Guess what? The play worked beautifully, lol. Only problem is that the receiver didn't tuck the ball and he had a HUGE fumble after running 20 yards. What a killer.
I honestly don't see how you can fire Gregg Williams and Freddie Kitchens. It really doesn't seem like a possibility. And I'll go one further. I'd actually announce the extension of Williams and Kitchens now. It would galvanize the team and cement the fact that this group of men is trying to make something special, and even if we can't go to the playoffs this year, we're going to have the same group of players and coaches next year, so stay hungry, stay fired up, and we'll see everyone in a few months.
i mean unless Dorsey all ready had someone in mind when he took over the team I do not see any reason why they would disturb the chemistry of the team and if so who we gonna get another retread ?
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that article from glazer....ugh
i guess first point is kitchens wasn't signed to an extension or anything...
second point would be that the OC would likely be hired by the new HC? i suppose, similar to Hue, that dorsey could force kitchens on a HC...not sure if thats wise or not.
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that article from glazer....ugh
i guess first point is kitchens wasn't signed to an extension or anything...
second point would be that the OC would likely be hired by the new HC? i suppose, similar to Hue, that dorsey could force kitchens on a HC...not sure if thats wise or not.
that article from glazer....ugh
i guess first point is kitchens wasn't signed to an extension or anything...
second point would be that the OC would likely be hired by the new HC? i suppose, similar to Hue, that dorsey could force kitchens on a HC...not sure if thats wise or not.
Depends entirely on who is the HC choice. If its a defensive minded head coach, then its possible that you can force the new coach to keep Kitchens. All depends on who the choice is for the Head Coach though.
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Dorsey said he’d address the HC job after the season is over when they let huego. Since then not a peep out of Berea. They’ve done a pretty amazing job and got a huge mid season U turn on this teams performance and chemistry. Capt. Dorsey gonna stay the course
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Here’s a little blurb by Albert Breer found in his MMQB article. . .
5. Here’s the value of good scouting, and scouting the person as much as the player. Where the public seems legitimately surprised at how Baker Mayfield has galvanized the Browns, there are plenty of folks in NFL personnel departments who aren’t shocked in the least how this has all played out. In my story about the Jets’ pursuit of Sam Darnold from May, you’ll see the anecdote lining up the grades of Darnold and Mayield. In there, Jets player personnel executive Zach Truty, who was responsible for grading Mayfield, gave the Heisman Trophy winner execeeding rare perfect scores of “9” as a teammate, leader and worker. All of which, safe to say, is showing up in Cleveland.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/12/17/colts-players-only-meeting-ty-hilton-nfl-news-notes
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I think Williams will stay because he has the HC gig and he’s doing a great job.
Maybe Kitchens will stay another year.. to finish some unsettled business
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Hire Arians and Kitchens will most likely stay.
I just wonder would Dorsey even consider Arians. He's been campaigning for the job hard but media seem to think McCarthy got the job because of his ties from FO. I hate the idea of Baker already having to learn a 2nd offense in his 2nd year when he is playing well in the 1st one but I guess if Goff can do it, Baker can too.
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