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    @atom said:

    according to jay glazer The Browns have allready locked up Kitchens as are o.c

    Did you see the Panthers game last night? They freaking ran almost the EXACT same play as those two Landry misdirection runs, only a week after playing us. They always say the NFL is a copycat league, and it's true. Guess what? The play worked beautifully, lol. Only problem is that the receiver didn't tuck the ball and he had a HUGE fumble after running 20 yards. What a killer. 

    I honestly don't see how you can fire Gregg Williams and Freddie Kitchens. It really doesn't seem like a possibility. And I'll go one further. I'd actually announce the extension of Williams and Kitchens now. It would galvanize the team and cement the fact that this group of men is trying to make something special, and even if we can't go to the playoffs this year, we're going to have the same group of players and coaches next year, so stay hungry, stay fired up, and we'll see everyone in a few months. 

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    @jiggins7919 said:

    Did you see the Panthers game last night? They freaking ran almost the EXACT same play as those two Landry misdirection runs, only a week after playing us. They always say the NFL is a copycat league, and it's true. Guess what? The play worked beautifully, lol. Only problem is that the receiver didn't tuck the ball and he had a HUGE fumble after running 20 yards. What a killer. 

    I honestly don't see how you can fire Gregg Williams and Freddie Kitchens. It really doesn't seem like a possibility. And I'll go one further. I'd actually announce the extension of Williams and Kitchens now. It would galvanize the team and cement the fact that this group of men is trying to make something special, and even if we can't go to the playoffs this year, we're going to have the same group of players and coaches next year, so stay hungry, stay fired up, and we'll see everyone in a few months. 

    i mean unless Dorsey all ready had someone in mind when he took over the team I do not see any reason why they would disturb the chemistry of the team and if so who we gonna get another retread ?

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      according to jay glazer The Browns have allready locked up Kitchens as are o.c

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      @atom said:

      according to jay glazer The Browns have allready locked up Kitchens as are o.c

      I've been reading over the last few days, that several unnamed NFL teams have expressed an interest in Kitchens.

      I'm sure that, combined with Baker thriving in Freddy's system prompted the signing. 

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        chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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        that article from glazer....ugh

        i guess first point is kitchens wasn't signed to an extension or anything...

        second point would be that the OC would likely be hired by the new HC?  i suppose, similar to Hue, that dorsey could force kitchens on a HC...not sure if thats wise or not.    

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          that article from glazer....ugh

          i guess first point is kitchens wasn't signed to an extension or anything...

          second point would be that the OC would likely be hired by the new HC?  i suppose, similar to Hue, that dorsey could force kitchens on a HC...not sure if thats wise or not.    

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          @choco said:

          that article from glazer....ugh

          i guess first point is kitchens wasn't signed to an extension or anything...

          second point would be that the OC would likely be hired by the new HC?  i suppose, similar to Hue, that dorsey could force kitchens on a HC...not sure if thats wise or not.    

          Depends entirely on who is the HC choice.   If its a defensive minded head coach, then its possible that you can force the new coach to keep Kitchens.   All depends on who the choice is for the Head Coach though. 

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            I never base anything as fact coming out of Glazers mouth... another motor mouth idiot...

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              flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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              Dorsey said he’d address the HC job after the season is over when they let huego. Since then not a peep out of Berea. They’ve done a pretty amazing job and got a huge mid season U turn on this teams performance and chemistry.  Capt. Dorsey gonna stay the course

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                according to jay glazer The Browns have allready locked up Kitchens as are o.c

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                One of the options king did not list is making Kitchens the HC. It's truly the only way to lock him in...

                @atom said:

                according to jay glazer The Browns have allready locked up Kitchens as are o.c

                He may be under contract as our OC, but if a team wants to interview him for their HC slot, they can.

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                  Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by Canton Dawg
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                  Here’s a little blurb by Albert Breer found in his MMQB article. . .

                  5. Here’s the value of good scouting, and scouting the person as much as the player. Where the public seems legitimately surprised at how Baker Mayfield has galvanized the Browns, there are plenty of folks in NFL personnel departments who aren’t shocked in the least how this has all played out. In my story about the Jets’ pursuit of Sam Darnold from May, you’ll see the anecdote lining up the grades of Darnold and Mayield. In there, Jets player personnel executive Zach Truty, who was responsible for grading Mayfield, gave the Heisman Trophy winner execeeding rare perfect scores of “9” as a teammate, leader and worker. All of which, safe to say, is showing up in Cleveland.

                  https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/12/17/colts-players-only-meeting-ty-hilton-nfl-news-notes

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                    CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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                    I think Williams will stay because he has the HC gig and he’s doing a great job.

                    Maybe Kitchens will stay another year.. to finish some unsettled business 

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                      Hire Arians and Kitchens will most likely stay.

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                      @crstphr2 said:

                      Hire Arians and Kitchens will most likely stay.

                      I just wonder would Dorsey even consider Arians. He's been campaigning for the job hard but media seem to think McCarthy got the job because of his ties from FO. I hate the idea of Baker already having to learn a 2nd offense in his 2nd year when he is playing well in the 1st one but I guess if Goff can do it, Baker can too.

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                        according to jay glazer The Browns have allready locked up Kitchens as are o.c

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                        @atom said:

                        according to jay glazer The Browns have allready locked up Kitchens as are o.c

                        I seen that. That hurts the HC candidate pool unless they already know a guy who will take the job and doesn't have an issue with it. I remember WAS did that with Zorn and it didn't work out well.

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                          @atom said:

                          according to jay glazer The Browns have allready locked up Kitchens as are o.c

                          I've been reading over the last few days, that several unnamed NFL teams have expressed an interest in Kitchens.

                          I'm sure that, combined with Baker thriving in Freddy's system prompted the signing. 

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                          @canton-dawg said:

                          I've been reading over the last few days, that several unnamed NFL teams have expressed an interest in Kitchens.

                          I'm sure that, combined with Baker thriving in Freddy's system prompted the signing. 

                          also name him asst. head coach 

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                            @crstphr2 said:

                            Hire Arians and Kitchens will most likely stay.

                            I just wonder would Dorsey even consider Arians. He's been campaigning for the job hard but media seem to think McCarthy got the job because of his ties from FO. I hate the idea of Baker already having to learn a 2nd offense in his 2nd year when he is playing well in the 1st one but I guess if Goff can do it, Baker can too.

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                            @realplayer said:

                            I hate the idea of Baker already having to learn a 2nd offense in his 2nd year when he is playing well in the 1st one but I guess if Goff can do it, Baker can too.

                            Difference being that Goff was not doing well in the first scheme and Baker is excelling in his.

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                              jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                              Here's Baker's response to the game being sold out. 

                              "I just found out this Sunday's game is sold out," Mayfield said. "I appreciate you guys. I know I called you out. I thank you guys for buying all the tickets, being there for the support, I appreciate it a lot. I'm so excited to see you on Sunday. But it's not just about being there, you've got to be loud too. We want the energy there, we want it to be very exciting for the last home game, finishing off the season on the right note. And I appreciate you guys, thank you very much."

                              I love this guy, and I love the color rush jerseys. I know our players do too. 

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                                Here's Baker's response to the game being sold out. 

                                "I just found out this Sunday's game is sold out," Mayfield said. "I appreciate you guys. I know I called you out. I thank you guys for buying all the tickets, being there for the support, I appreciate it a lot. I'm so excited to see you on Sunday. But it's not just about being there, you've got to be loud too. We want the energy there, we want it to be very exciting for the last home game, finishing off the season on the right note. And I appreciate you guys, thank you very much."

                                I love this guy, and I love the color rush jerseys. I know our players do too. 

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                                @jiggins7919 said:

                                Here's Baker's response to the game being sold out. 

                                "I just found out this Sunday's game is sold out," Mayfield said. "I appreciate you guys. I know I called you out. I thank you guys for buying all the tickets, being there for the support, I appreciate it a lot. I'm so excited to see you on Sunday. But it's not just about being there, you've got to be loud too. We want the energy there, we want it to be very exciting for the last home game, finishing off the season on the right note. And I appreciate you guys, thank you very much."

                                I love this guy, and I love the color rush jerseys. I know our players do too. 

                                HA HA I Bet The Entire Team Wakes Up Feeling DANGEROUS 

                                GO BROWNS & I am looking forward to watching a sold out stadium 

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                                  just watched freddie interview at cleveland .com wow it's impossible not to come away impressed and wonder if he should be named head coach

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                                    @jiggins7919 said:

                                    Here's Baker's response to the game being sold out. 

                                    "I just found out this Sunday's game is sold out," Mayfield said. "I appreciate you guys. I know I called you out. I thank you guys for buying all the tickets, being there for the support, I appreciate it a lot. I'm so excited to see you on Sunday. But it's not just about being there, you've got to be loud too. We want the energy there, we want it to be very exciting for the last home game, finishing off the season on the right note. And I appreciate you guys, thank you very much."

                                    I love this guy, and I love the color rush jerseys. I know our players do too. 

                                    HA HA I Bet The Entire Team Wakes Up Feeling DANGEROUS 

                                    GO BROWNS & I am looking forward to watching a sold out stadium 

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                                    jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                                    HA HA I Bet The Entire Team Wakes Up Feeling DANGEROUS 

                                    GO BROWNS & I am looking forward to watching a sold out stadium 

                                    No kidding. It's gonna be cranked UP. It's funny, so many times it feels like we're almost WAITING for the season to end (same with players), and now you get the sense our guys don't want it to be over. 

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                                      @atom said:

                                      HA HA I Bet The Entire Team Wakes Up Feeling DANGEROUS 

                                      GO BROWNS & I am looking forward to watching a sold out stadium 

                                      No kidding. It's gonna be cranked UP. It's funny, so many times it feels like we're almost WAITING for the season to end (same with players), and now you get the sense our guys don't want it to be over. 

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                                      No kidding. It's gonna be cranked UP. It's funny, so many times it feels like we're almost WAITING for the season to end (same with players), and now you get the sense our guys don't want it to be over. 

                                      makes me wonder how many showed up last year for are last home game

                                      I allways blessed them for being there 

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                                        Here's Baker's response to the game being sold out. 

                                        "I just found out this Sunday's game is sold out," Mayfield said. "I appreciate you guys. I know I called you out. I thank you guys for buying all the tickets, being there for the support, I appreciate it a lot. I'm so excited to see you on Sunday. But it's not just about being there, you've got to be loud too. We want the energy there, we want it to be very exciting for the last home game, finishing off the season on the right note. And I appreciate you guys, thank you very much."

                                        I love this guy, and I love the color rush jerseys. I know our players do too. 

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                                        jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @jiggins7919 said:

                                        Here's Baker's response to the game being sold out. 

                                        "I just found out this Sunday's game is sold out," Mayfield said. "I appreciate you guys. I know I called you out. I thank you guys for buying all the tickets, being there for the support, I appreciate it a lot. I'm so excited to see you on Sunday. But it's not just about being there, you've got to be loud too. We want the energy there, we want it to be very exciting for the last home game, finishing off the season on the right note. And I appreciate you guys, thank you very much."

                                        I love this guy, and I love the color rush jerseys. I know our players do too. 

                                        I believe it was sold out or close to it last game as well, people just didnt show up. I was pretty surprised by the amount of empty seats based on the way the teams been playing. 

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                                          jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by jcam222
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                                          This interview with Kitchens is impressive. Also interesting to note the commentary at about the 2 minute mark when he answers as to who made him the OC. Overall this guy sounds like a good head coach candidate to me. I would love to see him groomed by Arians for a year and let loose. 

                                          https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/video/freddie-kitchens-i-think-john-dorsey-is-one-of-the-best-in-the-business

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