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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    Meanwhile, Mattis DESPISED everything about Obamao. I wouldn't have hired someone who worked under obaMao - too close to the deep state.

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      @calfoxwc said:

      our allies are more dedicated to the EU than us. Open borders, open mass immigration, un global warming farce...

      it's time to treat our allies like they NEED to be treated, not like how they WANT to be coddled.

      Mattis made HIMSELF look bad.

      Mattis dismisses reports he may be leaving Trump administration ...

      https://www.reuters.com/...mattis/mattis-dismisses-reports-he-may-be-leaving-trump-a...
       
      Sep 18, 2018 - U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis on Tuesday flatly dismissed reports suggesting he may be leaving President Donald Trump's administration ...

      You're a fool cal.

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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      @texasag1969 said:

      You're a fool cal.

      go lick your commie obaMao's toes. Mattis despised him on several counts. That he disagreed with PRes Trump is no matter to me.

      https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/mattis-on-the-issues-233522

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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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        Trump: Jim Mattis 'sort of a Democrat' and could quit as defense ...

         
        https://www.theguardian.com/.../donald-trump-jim-mattis-democrat-defense-secretary-le...
        Oct 14, 2018 - Donald Trump suspects his defense secretary, General Jim Mattis, might be a Democrat and “could be” heading for the exit.
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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          I'm happy to get our Troops out of Syria.

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            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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            Enjoy retirement,  Mad Dog. 

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              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              I hate to see Mattis leave as I like to see presidents usually following their generals advice but I saw the same thing under Obama. 

              Obama vs. the generals

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/marc-thiessen-obama-overrules-his-generals-in-fight-against-islamic-state/2014/09/15/0cff59a0-3ce1-11e4-9587-5dafd96295f0_story.html?utm_term=.b8c7ff6098db

              Obama ignores generals' advice on troop levels for unprecedented sixth time

              https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/15/obama-ignores-generals-on-troop-levels-for-unprece/

              Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years

              https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obama/

              Obama purged military of those who sought victory

              https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/09/obama_purged_military_of_those_who_sought_victory.html

              Top generals: Obama is 'purging the military'
              Read more at https://www.wnd.com/2013/10/top-generals-obama-is-purging-the-military/#cRUwVRBFIzQUvxAI.99

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                @logicisforsquares said:

                That resignation letter is polite but does not paint the prettiest picture about Trump.

                OK, so it wasn't just me. Sounds like tweeting that you are pulling out of Syria without giving a heads up to your allies or the pentagon is the straw that broke the camel's back.

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                LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                @cccjwh said:

                OK, so it wasn't just me. Sounds like tweeting that you are pulling out of Syria without giving a heads up to your allies or the pentagon is the straw that broke the camel's back.

                It was a long list of good values that Mattis agrees with then said Trump should find someone who better fits something different than those positive values. A polite but sly way of doing it.

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                  Meanwhile, Mattis DESPISED everything about Obamao. I wouldn't have hired someone who worked under obaMao - too close to the deep state.

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                  cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by
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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  Meanwhile, Mattis DESPISED everything about Obamao. I wouldn't have hired someone who worked under obaMao - too close to the deep state.

                  @texasag1969 said:

                  He'll be part of the "dirty deep state" before midnight tonight. Bunch of fucking fools just don't get that the real enemy of the people is occupying the chair the Russians wanted him to be in from day one.

                  Called it. ?

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                    I can’t wait to see how folks on the right have to bend to try and make Mattis look bad.

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                    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                    @logicisforsquares said:

                    I can’t wait to see how folks on the right have to bend to try and make Mattis look bad.

                    That didn’t take long haha.

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                      I hate to see Mattis leave as I like to see presidents usually following their generals advice but I saw the same thing under Obama. 

                      Obama vs. the generals

                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/marc-thiessen-obama-overrules-his-generals-in-fight-against-islamic-state/2014/09/15/0cff59a0-3ce1-11e4-9587-5dafd96295f0_story.html?utm_term=.b8c7ff6098db

                      Obama ignores generals' advice on troop levels for unprecedented sixth time

                      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/15/obama-ignores-generals-on-troop-levels-for-unprece/

                      Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years

                      https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obama/

                      Obama purged military of those who sought victory

                      https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/09/obama_purged_military_of_those_who_sought_victory.html

                      Top generals: Obama is 'purging the military'
                      Read more at https://www.wnd.com/2013/10/top-generals-obama-is-purging-the-military/#cRUwVRBFIzQUvxAI.99

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                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                      I hate to see Mattis leave as I like to see presidents usually following their generals advice but I saw the same thing under Obama. 

                      Obama vs. the generals

                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/marc-thiessen-obama-overrules-his-generals-in-fight-against-islamic-state/2014/09/15/0cff59a0-3ce1-11e4-9587-5dafd96295f0_story.html?utm_term=.b8c7ff6098db

                      Obama ignores generals' advice on troop levels for unprecedented sixth time

                      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/15/obama-ignores-generals-on-troop-levels-for-unprece/

                      Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years

                      https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obama/

                      Obama purged military of those who sought victory

                      https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/09/obama_purged_military_of_those_who_sought_victory.html

                      Top generals: Obama is 'purging the military'
                      Read more at https://www.wnd.com/2013/10/top-generals-obama-is-purging-the-military/#cRUwVRBFIzQUvxAI.99

                      So Obama and Trump are similar? Makes sense.

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                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                        mattis was the same to both. You miss the point, there.

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                        • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                          I hate to see Mattis leave as I like to see presidents usually following their generals advice but I saw the same thing under Obama. 

                          Obama vs. the generals

                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/marc-thiessen-obama-overrules-his-generals-in-fight-against-islamic-state/2014/09/15/0cff59a0-3ce1-11e4-9587-5dafd96295f0_story.html?utm_term=.b8c7ff6098db

                          Obama ignores generals' advice on troop levels for unprecedented sixth time

                          https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/15/obama-ignores-generals-on-troop-levels-for-unprece/

                          Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years

                          https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obama/

                          Obama purged military of those who sought victory

                          https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/09/obama_purged_military_of_those_who_sought_victory.html

                          Top generals: Obama is 'purging the military'
                          Read more at https://www.wnd.com/2013/10/top-generals-obama-is-purging-the-military/#cRUwVRBFIzQUvxAI.99

                          So Obama and Trump are similar? Makes sense.

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          @logicisforsquares said:

                          So Obama and Trump are similar? Makes sense.

                          I won't say either Obama or Trump are narcissists except to say I see narcissist traits in both of them and I generally like to see civilian presidents even though they are the commander in chief listen to the real experts which is their military generals. Looks like Trump and Obama are similar there too... I believe the timing of Mattis's resigning is related to Trump's recent decision to pull the troops out of Syria against the advice of the military. 

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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            https://www.theblaze.com/america-with-eric-bolling/eric-bolling-applauds-trumps-decision-to-pull-out-of-syria

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                              mattis was the same to both. You miss the point, there.

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                              T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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                              @calfoxwc said:

                              mattis was the same to both. You miss the point, there.

                              You miss the point totally. We have just lost the last bit of sanity protecting this country from the governments that you claim to abhor, one that your fucking fool keeps playing up to and doing the bidding for. If you think Obama was bad just wait until you see what happens in the middle east now. Christ cal start using that fucking brain you have. Get out of Syria like that idiot Obama did in Iraq and up pops ISIS again and Turkey also has a free shot at the Kurds. Do you really not get this? Plus he did this without consulting any allies which further damages the relationships that have kept us from WW III for decades now. Take off you OBAMA hatred glasses and look at this traitor, because that is what he is. Read the details in Mattis's letter. Can you not see what he is telling this idiot? Do you really want to tear down the fabric of our mutual defenses with the free world? Because that is exactly what he is doing.

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                                W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                There must be more to the serious story that I were anyone here understands. Don't know why it's a bad idea to get the fuck out of Syria and Afghanistan for that matter.

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                                  @logicisforsquares said:

                                  So Obama and Trump are similar? Makes sense.

                                  I won't say either Obama or Trump are narcissists except to say I see narcissist traits in both of them and I generally like to see civilian presidents even though they are the commander in chief listen to the real experts which is their military generals. Looks like Trump and Obama are similar there too... I believe the timing of Mattis's resigning is related to Trump's recent decision to pull the troops out of Syria against the advice of the military. 

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                                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                                  I won't say either Obama or Trump are narcissists except to say I see narcissist traits in both of them and I generally like to see civilian presidents even though they are the commander in chief listen to the real experts which is their military generals. Looks like Trump and Obama are similar there too... I believe the timing of Mattis's resigning is related to Trump's recent decision to pull the troops out of Syria against the advice of the military. 

                                  I would say they both are but it manifests in different ways. One is loud and ridiculous, the other thought he was the smartest guy in the room and acted smug.

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                                    There must be more to the serious story that I were anyone here understands. Don't know why it's a bad idea to get the fuck out of Syria and Afghanistan for that matter.

                                    WSS

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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    There must be more to the serious story that I were anyone here understands. Don't know why it's a bad idea to get the fuck out of Syria and Afghanistan for that matter.

                                    WSS

                                    Its the way he just he did it, like he woke up and saud fuck it bring them home. To be clear im not against the concept, but u tell the military in advance so a draw down can be orchestrated without leaving an immeduate gaping suck hole for isis 2.0 to fill.

                                    Surely u can agree with me on that. This move made almost in unison with those sanctions being lifted, i mean.....wtf?

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                                      it's inconceivable to me that some of you aren't concerned by this. Every time some guy "retires" from the admin, he was deep state trash and "good riddance". Political stuff is political, I get it.....but this is getting weird, really weird. And not in that fresh "he's an outsider" kind of way. Not even in the "well he's not a polished politician" sort of way either. This is pointing toward a full blown implosion of our democracy, something btw that was "PROMISED" to us by a certain poster here prior to the 2016 election. 

                                      Mattis, by all accounts, was not a political guy.....so when he adivised Trump on stuff, you can be sure it was related to the military and he was drawing upon his how many decades of distinguished service? So I would find it hard to believe Mattis would outright advise Trump on ever removing troops from Syria..but you know he advised Trump to do it the "right way". And Trump said nahhhh. 

                                      Ok Donald. 

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                                        it's inconceivable to me that some of you aren't concerned by this. Every time some guy "retires" from the admin, he was deep state trash and "good riddance". Political stuff is political, I get it.....but this is getting weird, really weird. And not in that fresh "he's an outsider" kind of way. Not even in the "well he's not a polished politician" sort of way either. This is pointing toward a full blown implosion of our democracy, something btw that was "PROMISED" to us by a certain poster here prior to the 2016 election. 

                                        Mattis, by all accounts, was not a political guy.....so when he adivised Trump on stuff, you can be sure it was related to the military and he was drawing upon his how many decades of distinguished service? So I would find it hard to believe Mattis would outright advise Trump on ever removing troops from Syria..but you know he advised Trump to do it the "right way". And Trump said nahhhh. 

                                        Ok Donald. 

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                                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        it's inconceivable to me that some of you aren't concerned by this. Every time some guy "retires" from the admin, he was deep state trash and "good riddance". Political stuff is political, I get it.....but this is getting weird, really weird. And not in that fresh "he's an outsider" kind of way. Not even in the "well he's not a polished politician" sort of way either. This is pointing toward a full blown implosion of our democracy, something btw that was "PROMISED" to us by a certain poster here prior to the 2016 election. 

                                        Mattis, by all accounts, was not a political guy.....so when he adivised Trump on stuff, you can be sure it was related to the military and he was drawing upon his how many decades of distinguished service? So I would find it hard to believe Mattis would outright advise Trump on ever removing troops from Syria..but you know he advised Trump to do it the "right way". And Trump said nahhhh. 

                                        Ok Donald. 

                                        Some concerns. But also concerns this is getting blown up out of proportion. My concerns are that it is not only Mattis but Bolton and Pompeo too were also against pulling our troops out of Syria. This kind of thing  however happened with Obama on numerous occasions with Obama going against his advisers and nobody acted like the sky was falling. 

                                        There are two sides to pulling the troops out of Syria. I side with Mattis, Pompeo and Bolton that we should not pull the troops out yet but it is not a crazy idea to want to pull the troops out either. An argument can be made on both sides. 

                                        If there would be any implosion of our democracy I would lay that more at the feet of those who never accepted the will of the voters and the 2016 election results and have done everything to take out this president by any means. 

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                                          @clevfan4life said:

                                          it's inconceivable to me that some of you aren't concerned by this. Every time some guy "retires" from the admin, he was deep state trash and "good riddance". Political stuff is political, I get it.....but this is getting weird, really weird. And not in that fresh "he's an outsider" kind of way. Not even in the "well he's not a polished politician" sort of way either. This is pointing toward a full blown implosion of our democracy, something btw that was "PROMISED" to us by a certain poster here prior to the 2016 election. 

                                          Mattis, by all accounts, was not a political guy.....so when he adivised Trump on stuff, you can be sure it was related to the military and he was drawing upon his how many decades of distinguished service? So I would find it hard to believe Mattis would outright advise Trump on ever removing troops from Syria..but you know he advised Trump to do it the "right way". And Trump said nahhhh. 

                                          Ok Donald. 

                                          Some concerns. But also concerns this is getting blown up out of proportion. My concerns are that it is not only Mattis but Bolton and Pompeo too were also against pulling our troops out of Syria. This kind of thing  however happened with Obama on numerous occasions with Obama going against his advisers and nobody acted like the sky was falling. 

                                          There are two sides to pulling the troops out of Syria. I side with Mattis, Pompeo and Bolton that we should not pull the troops out yet but it is not a crazy idea to want to pull the troops out either. An argument can be made on both sides. 

                                          If there would be any implosion of our democracy I would lay that more at the feet of those who never accepted the will of the voters and the 2016 election results and have done everything to take out this president by any means. 

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                                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                                          Some concerns. But also concerns this is getting blown up out of proportion. My concerns are that it is not only Mattis but Bolton and Pompeo too were also against pulling our troops out of Syria. This kind of thing  however happened with Obama on numerous occasions with Obama going against his advisers and nobody acted like the sky was falling. 

                                          There are two sides to pulling the troops out of Syria. I side with Mattis, Pompeo and Bolton that we should not pull the troops out yet but it is not a crazy idea to want to pull the troops out either. An argument can be made on both sides. 

                                          If there would be any implosion of our democracy I would lay that more at the feet of those who never accepted the will of the voters and the 2016 election results and have done everything to take out this president by any means. 

                                          You cheer on a moron trying to destroy the pillars of our democracy and you are going to blame others if it fails. Don't worry your war hero isn't going to destroy our country, the non-TDIMS are starting to wake up. You losers will be back on the fringe and everyone can look back and laugh at how fucking stupid you guys were. 

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