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  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
    #43

    Gordon is doing the right thing. There is nothing to say that he's failed another test. He's suspended because he's taking a break and that violates his reinstatement. He could be reinstated in the offseason if things go well from here on out. The Patriots are okay with it and taking the time to get himself together before another relapse is a good sign of progress. These things take time and he's done an excellent job this season to remain on the field and producing well after the move. 

    I would add that moving to a new town and being away from his children whom he just got back in his life must be taking a toll on the young man. 

    Seriously does this mean that the Patriots own his rights next season or will he be a FA when he's reinstated? 

  • Gordon is doing the right thing. There is nothing to say that he's failed another test. He's suspended because he's taking a break and that violates his reinstatement. He could be reinstated in the offseason if things go well from here on out. The Patriots are okay with it and taking the time to get himself together before another relapse is a good sign of progress. These things take time and he's done an excellent job this season to remain on the field and producing well after the move. 

    I would add that moving to a new town and being away from his children whom he just got back in his life must be taking a toll on the young man. 

    Seriously does this mean that the Patriots own his rights next season or will he be a FA when he's reinstated? 

    ATOMA ATOM wrote on last edited by
    #44

    @poeticg said:

    Gordon is doing the right thing. There is nothing to say that he's failed another test. He's suspended because he's taking a break and that violates his reinstatement. He could be reinstated in the offseason if things go well from here on out. The Patriots are okay with it and taking the time to get himself together before another relapse is a good sign of progress. These things take time and he's done an excellent job this season to remain on the field and producing well after the move. 

    I would add that moving to a new town and being away from his children whom he just got back in his life must be taking a toll on the young man. 

    Seriously does this mean that the Patriots own his rights next season or will he be a FA when he's reinstated? 

    i believe he has played in enough games to be a F.A

  • @nickers said:

    I have 0 animosity towards him... He did it to himself... He obviously does not care.. Why should we.. We and the League have given him numerous opportunities to right his own ship...that ship apparently has sunk for good.. Now we can move on.. And just worry about the players who are making the team great again...

    Well, your tone clearly implies animosity...and emotions (read: care).

    So...go ahead, move on.

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #45

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, your tone clearly implies animosity...and emotions (read: care).

    So...go ahead, move on.

    Already did... I suggest everyone else do the same...

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well....if you have lived and dealt with addicts, then it is you far more than anyone else here who may have been an enabler of someone at some point in time. 

    Again, my point being....you seemed to express vitriol toward him.  While I am not particulary sympathetic, I hold no animosity ...as you seem to.

    I have 0 animosity towards him... He did it to himself... He obviously does not care.. Why should we.. We and the League have given him numerous opportunities to right his own ship...that ship apparently has sunk for good.. Now we can move on.. And just worry about the players who are making the team great again...

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
    #46

    @nickers said:

    I have 0 animosity towards him... He did it to himself... He obviously does not care.. Why should we.. We and the League have given him numerous opportunities to right his own ship...that ship apparently has sunk for good.. Now we can move on.. And just worry about the players who are making the team great again...

    Yeah it's sad that he can't control his demons. The scenario is NFL came up to him and in one hand had a check for $10+ million dollars, and in the other a blunt and a bottle of booze. Which one do you want more Josh?  Apparently the second option. 

    @poeticg said:

    Gordon is doing the right thing. There is nothing to say that he's failed another test. He's suspended because he's taking a break and that violates his reinstatement. He could be reinstated in the offseason if things go well from here on out. The Patriots are okay with it and taking the time to get himself together before another relapse is a good sign of progress. These things take time and he's done an excellent job this season to remain on the field and producing well after the move. 

    I would add that moving to a new town and being away from his children whom he just got back in his life must be taking a toll on the young man. 

    Seriously does this mean that the Patriots own his rights next season or will he be a FA when he's reinstated? 

    Um, not exactly, but there's only one way to take this....   

    NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported that Gordon is facing another indefinite suspension for violating terms of his reinstatement under the substance abuse policy, according to a source informed his status.

    The league later confirmed the suspension:

    "Effective today, Josh Gordon has been returned to the Reserve/Commissioner Suspended list indefinitely for violating the terms of his conditional reinstatement under the Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse."

    Sorry Po, pull your head out of the sand. He flunked another drug test. The league can't come right out and say it because of privacy issues, but it will come out in the wash soon enough. Going to seek further treatment is admirable, but for all intents and purposes, he's done in the NFL. And if you were listening to Good Morning Football, they flat out said Gordon isn't the same player he was in his Pro Bowl season. He's still pretty good, but he's not a top 10 talent anymore. Maybe you should start a poll to see how long the guys here think he's gone for this time. Make sure "forever" is one of the options.   

  • Gordon is doing the right thing. There is nothing to say that he's failed another test. He's suspended because he's taking a break and that violates his reinstatement. He could be reinstated in the offseason if things go well from here on out. The Patriots are okay with it and taking the time to get himself together before another relapse is a good sign of progress. These things take time and he's done an excellent job this season to remain on the field and producing well after the move. 

    I would add that moving to a new town and being away from his children whom he just got back in his life must be taking a toll on the young man. 

    Seriously does this mean that the Patriots own his rights next season or will he be a FA when he's reinstated? 

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
    #47

    @poeticg said:

    Gordon is doing the right thing. There is nothing to say that he's failed another test. He's suspended because he's taking a break and that violates his reinstatement. He could be reinstated in the offseason if things go well from here on out. The Patriots are okay with it and taking the time to get himself together before another relapse is a good sign of progress. These things take time and he's done an excellent job this season to remain on the field and producing well after the move. 

    I would add that moving to a new town and being away from his children whom he just got back in his life must be taking a toll on the young man. 

    Seriously does this mean that the Patriots own his rights next season or will he be a FA when he's reinstated? 

    Of course his number 1 fan will still defend him.   What team will want a guy who skips all of training camp to "get his head together" then shows up and half asses the effort.  Gets traded to the best organization in the NFL, plays decently for them and then walks away from the team 2 games before the playoffs to "get his head together" again.   Total waste of talent.   Hes back on the suspended list for an indefinite amount of time.  He won't get another chance in the NFL anytime soon.   

    New England Patriots wide receiver Josh Gordon has been suspended indefinitely for violating the terms of his conditional reinstatement under the NFL's drug policy, the league announced Thursday.

    "Effective today, Josh Gordon has been returned to the Reserve/Commissioner Suspended list indefinitely for violating the terms of his conditional reinstatement under the Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse," the league said in a statement.

    He and Justin Blackmon can sit on the front porch of some house somewhere now and smoke weed and talk about the good old days of playing in the NFL all they want now. 

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #48

    Gordon was suspended indefinitely by the league. He was obviously dirty again.

  • Gordon is doing the right thing. There is nothing to say that he's failed another test. He's suspended because he's taking a break and that violates his reinstatement. He could be reinstated in the offseason if things go well from here on out. The Patriots are okay with it and taking the time to get himself together before another relapse is a good sign of progress. These things take time and he's done an excellent job this season to remain on the field and producing well after the move. 

    I would add that moving to a new town and being away from his children whom he just got back in his life must be taking a toll on the young man. 

    Seriously does this mean that the Patriots own his rights next season or will he be a FA when he's reinstated? 

    hish747H hish747 wrote on last edited by
    #49

    @poeticg said:

    He's suspended because he's taking a break and that violates his reinstatement.

    It doesn't make sense that taking a break to care for yourself would violate terms of the reinstatement. Do you have a citation for your claim?

  • @poeticg said:

    He's suspended because he's taking a break and that violates his reinstatement.

    It doesn't make sense that taking a break to care for yourself would violate terms of the reinstatement. Do you have a citation for your claim?

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @hish747 said:

    It doesn't make sense that taking a break to care for yourself would violate terms of the reinstatement. Do you have a citation for your claim?

    Po is in D-Nile, again. Plain as mud he flunked another drug test. Thank goodness he's not the Browns problem anymore. 

  • bjh2130B bjh2130 wrote on last edited by bjh2130
    #51

    But but but boo hoo we gave him up for nothing. He's going to be a star. 

    In all seriousness best of luck to Josh but this was tonight.

    Edit PoG you need to see this. He failed a drug test. This mental health thing is true but his mental health problem is addiction

    My friends cousin just saw josh gordon drinking in a bar at ATL airport 

    110763.jpeg

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #52

    As  I've said since Dorsey announced that he'd be cutting Gordon, ' You cannot have a guy like that on your team. '  Everybody attends training camp, works hard, gets to meetings on time, etc.  And then there's him.  And he gets to play.   Sends the wrong message to the rest of the players.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #53

    I can't believe that right before the playoffs, when the Patriots need him the most, Josh Gordon would do something to jeopardize his ability to be on the field. I mean, that sounds like something someone who is completely unreliable would do. That can't be true. 

  • But but but boo hoo we gave him up for nothing. He's going to be a star. 

    In all seriousness best of luck to Josh but this was tonight.

    Edit PoG you need to see this. He failed a drug test. This mental health thing is true but his mental health problem is addiction

    My friends cousin just saw josh gordon drinking in a bar at ATL airport 

    110763.jpeg

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
    #54

    @bjh2130 said:

    But but but boo hoo we gave him up for nothing. He's going to be a star. 

    In all seriousness best of luck to Josh but this was tonight.

    Edit PoG you need to see this. He failed a drug test. This mental health thing is true but his mental health problem is addiction

    My friends cousin just saw josh gordon drinking in a bar at ATL airport 

    110763.jpeg

    EDIT: Just wow, just wow.  What do they say about a picture being worth a thousand words? Can we read Josh's mind? "Well I shouldn't do this, if I get caught, my career is probably over, but screw it, I DON'T CARE" that was a very expensive beer Mr. Gordon.  Nah they'll never test you at the wrong time Josh. If Gronk was around, he should have busted that beer bottle over Gordon's head to save him from another suspension. Of course Po's going to say it was just mango juice.  🙂  

    @dutch-oven said:

    I can't believe that right before the playoffs, when the Patriots need him the most, Josh Gordon would do something to jeopardize his ability to be on the field. I mean, that sounds like something someone who is completely unreliable would do. That can't be true. 

    Well, how many times did he do something similar with the Browns?  Thanks for the 5th round pick Bill. He's your problem now. 

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
    #55

    well, he got more money to buy more booze/dope whatever. So much for wanting to grow up and take care of his daughter, and be the player he aspired...

    nah.

    Next subject. He's just GONE.

  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #56

    What a waste of talent. If he had his head in the game he could be one of the great receivers in the NFL. Too bad for the Patriots but glad he is gone from Cleveland.

  • well, he got more money to buy more booze/dope whatever. So much for wanting to grow up and take care of his daughter, and be the player he aspired...

    nah.

    Next subject. He's just GONE.

    jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by jcam222
    #57

    @calfoxwc said:

    well, he got more money to buy more booze/dope whatever. So much for wanting to grow up and take care of his daughter, and be the player he aspired...

    nah.

    Next subject. He's just GONE.

    I get the frustration with the guy and the personal responsibility falls squarely on him. That said what he needs is not about growing up. You do not keep mental illness or addiction in check by growing up. if only it were that easy.  As a human being I hope he finds his bottom without harm to him or others and makes it out .  

  • @nickers said:

    I have 0 animosity towards him... He did it to himself... He obviously does not care.. Why should we.. We and the League have given him numerous opportunities to right his own ship...that ship apparently has sunk for good.. Now we can move on.. And just worry about the players who are making the team great again...

    Yeah it's sad that he can't control his demons. The scenario is NFL came up to him and in one hand had a check for $10+ million dollars, and in the other a blunt and a bottle of booze. Which one do you want more Josh?  Apparently the second option. 

    @poeticg said:

    Gordon is doing the right thing. There is nothing to say that he's failed another test. He's suspended because he's taking a break and that violates his reinstatement. He could be reinstated in the offseason if things go well from here on out. The Patriots are okay with it and taking the time to get himself together before another relapse is a good sign of progress. These things take time and he's done an excellent job this season to remain on the field and producing well after the move. 

    I would add that moving to a new town and being away from his children whom he just got back in his life must be taking a toll on the young man. 

    Seriously does this mean that the Patriots own his rights next season or will he be a FA when he's reinstated? 

    Um, not exactly, but there's only one way to take this....   

    NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported that Gordon is facing another indefinite suspension for violating terms of his reinstatement under the substance abuse policy, according to a source informed his status.

    The league later confirmed the suspension:

    "Effective today, Josh Gordon has been returned to the Reserve/Commissioner Suspended list indefinitely for violating the terms of his conditional reinstatement under the Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse."

    Sorry Po, pull your head out of the sand. He flunked another drug test. The league can't come right out and say it because of privacy issues, but it will come out in the wash soon enough. Going to seek further treatment is admirable, but for all intents and purposes, he's done in the NFL. And if you were listening to Good Morning Football, they flat out said Gordon isn't the same player he was in his Pro Bowl season. He's still pretty good, but he's not a top 10 talent anymore. Maybe you should start a poll to see how long the guys here think he's gone for this time. Make sure "forever" is one of the options.   

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #58

    @hoorta said:

    Yeah it's sad that he can't control his demons. The scenario is NFL came up to him and in one hand had a check for $10+ million dollars, and in the other a blunt and a bottle of booze. Which one do you want more Josh?  Apparently the second option. 

    Um, not exactly, but there's only one way to take this....   

    NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported that Gordon is facing another indefinite suspension for violating terms of his reinstatement under the substance abuse policy, according to a source informed his status.

    The league later confirmed the suspension:

    "Effective today, Josh Gordon has been returned to the Reserve/Commissioner Suspended list indefinitely for violating the terms of his conditional reinstatement under the Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse."

    Sorry Po, pull your head out of the sand. He flunked another drug test. The league can't come right out and say it because of privacy issues, but it will come out in the wash soon enough. Going to seek further treatment is admirable, but for all intents and purposes, he's done in the NFL. And if you were listening to Good Morning Football, they flat out said Gordon isn't the same player he was in his Pro Bowl season. He's still pretty good, but he's not a top 10 talent anymore. Maybe you should start a poll to see how long the guys here think he's gone for this time. Make sure "forever" is one of the options.   

    After the next collective-bargaining agreement they won’t even test for dope. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Yeah it's sad that he can't control his demons. The scenario is NFL came up to him and in one hand had a check for $10+ million dollars, and in the other a blunt and a bottle of booze. Which one do you want more Josh?  Apparently the second option. 

    Um, not exactly, but there's only one way to take this....   

    NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported that Gordon is facing another indefinite suspension for violating terms of his reinstatement under the substance abuse policy, according to a source informed his status.

    The league later confirmed the suspension:

    "Effective today, Josh Gordon has been returned to the Reserve/Commissioner Suspended list indefinitely for violating the terms of his conditional reinstatement under the Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse."

    Sorry Po, pull your head out of the sand. He flunked another drug test. The league can't come right out and say it because of privacy issues, but it will come out in the wash soon enough. Going to seek further treatment is admirable, but for all intents and purposes, he's done in the NFL. And if you were listening to Good Morning Football, they flat out said Gordon isn't the same player he was in his Pro Bowl season. He's still pretty good, but he's not a top 10 talent anymore. Maybe you should start a poll to see how long the guys here think he's gone for this time. Make sure "forever" is one of the options.   

    After the next collective-bargaining agreement they won’t even test for dope. 

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #59

    @the-gipper said:

    After the next collective-bargaining agreement they won’t even test for dope. 

    If I were the league I would leave it to the individual teams to decide if they tolerate drinking and toking.

  • I can't believe that right before the playoffs, when the Patriots need him the most, Josh Gordon would do something to jeopardize his ability to be on the field. I mean, that sounds like something someone who is completely unreliable would do. That can't be true. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #60

    @dutch-oven said:

    I can't believe that right before the playoffs, when the Patriots need him the most, Josh Gordon would do something to jeopardize his ability to be on the field. I mean, that sounds like something someone who is completely unreliable would do. That can't be true. 

    A professional anything or anyone doctor, lawyer, pilot, policeman, teacher even athlete whatever knows the rules when you can and can not turn it on and off and what the consequences are of violating the rules. And the higher profile person the more attention the situation gets.

    When you have some kind of an addiction problem and you let down those that depend on you or even your team especially with chance after chance it is time to go.

    Time to move on.

  • @bjh2130 said:

    But but but boo hoo we gave him up for nothing. He's going to be a star. 

    In all seriousness best of luck to Josh but this was tonight.

    Edit PoG you need to see this. He failed a drug test. This mental health thing is true but his mental health problem is addiction

    My friends cousin just saw josh gordon drinking in a bar at ATL airport 

    110763.jpeg

    EDIT: Just wow, just wow.  What do they say about a picture being worth a thousand words? Can we read Josh's mind? "Well I shouldn't do this, if I get caught, my career is probably over, but screw it, I DON'T CARE" that was a very expensive beer Mr. Gordon.  Nah they'll never test you at the wrong time Josh. If Gronk was around, he should have busted that beer bottle over Gordon's head to save him from another suspension. Of course Po's going to say it was just mango juice.  🙂  

    @dutch-oven said:

    I can't believe that right before the playoffs, when the Patriots need him the most, Josh Gordon would do something to jeopardize his ability to be on the field. I mean, that sounds like something someone who is completely unreliable would do. That can't be true. 

    Well, how many times did he do something similar with the Browns?  Thanks for the 5th round pick Bill. He's your problem now. 

    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
    #61

    @hoorta said:

    EDIT: Just wow, just wow.  What do they say about a picture being worth a thousand words? Can we read Josh's mind? "Well I shouldn't do this, if I get caught, my career is probably over, but screw it, I DON'T CARE" that was a very expensive beer Mr. Gordon.  Nah they'll never test you at the wrong time Josh. If Gronk was around, he should have busted that beer bottle over Gordon's head to save him from another suspension. Of course Po's going to say it was just mango juice.  🙂  

    Well, how many times did he do something similar with the Browns?  Thanks for the 5th round pick Bill. He's your problem now. 

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I don't think that Josh is forbidden from drinking a legal beverage. I think it has more to do with the illegal or legal, depending on where you live variety... I know most will say that he shouldn't even be drinking then- but he's human and no one is perfect. Good luck Josh. Pull it together and keep moving forward #12.

  • http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25580285/new-england-patriots-receiver-josh-gordon-says-stepping-away-focus-mental-health

    Normally I wouldn't make this a big deal, but I want every single one of you mf'ers who said trading Gordon was a mistake to step up and eat crow. I still don't wish evil on this kid, but it's obvious he didn't and never cared about being a football player. Top that with the fact we essentially matched his production with a rookie and where are you whiners at now? Yet another feather in the Cap for the Dorsey regime.

    GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
    #62

    @jrb12711 said:

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25580285/new-england-patriots-receiver-josh-gordon-says-stepping-away-focus-mental-health

    Normally I wouldn't make this a big deal, but I want every single one of you mf'ers who said trading Gordon was a mistake to step up and eat crow. I still don't wish evil on this kid, but it's obvious he didn't and never cared about being a football player. Top that with the fact we essentially matched his production with a rookie and where are you whiners at now? Yet another feather in the Cap for the Dorsey regime.

    DUDE, Can i have a little more dog shit sprinkles on my Crow? I was one who believed qe made q mistake.

    HOWEVER....don't get mad if I tell.you this is enjoyable crow. My point is......YET ANOTHER INSTANCE.....THE BROWNS FO GOT IT RIGHT.

    Draft, FA, Gordon, firing Hue, shit man, FINALLY, this team has management that doesn't need to listen to dickheads (like me).

    I need something to wash these feathers down with.