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  • Clev, you can’t claim that you are some ME history guru then at the same time claim this info is highschool history.

    Also, the region may have been enlightened at one point but those days are long gone and far predate US involvement.

  • Clev, you can’t claim that you are some ME history guru then at the same time claim this info is highschool history.

    Also, the region may have been enlightened at one point but those days are long gone and far predate US involvement.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Clev, you can’t claim that you are some ME history guru then at the same time claim this info is highschool history.

    Also, the region may have been enlightened at one point but those days are long gone and far predate US involvement.

    1) i didnt claim i was a history guru, my point about it being HS history was to ellucidate that this ISNT some obscure time in history people know little about. In fact the basics of medical anatomy the british are often credited with fiscovering, actually came from the doctors in egypt. Where the british doctors went to study.

    2) As to ur second point, did i insinuate the ME wasnt a current dumpster fire? I was responding to someones erroneous assertion that the middle east has been in perpetual war for millions of years...?

  • @clevfan4life said:

    This is high school.history

    So is George Washington chopping down the cherry tree and Abe Lincoln walking 5 miles to return a book.

    But yes a few civilizations including the Romans Greeks Chinese  Etc had extremely high peaks of enlightenment which are, as you should admit, somewhat fluid. I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today.

    And neither did I, ur point?

  • @westside-steve said:

    I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today.

    And neither did I, ur point?

    @clevfan4life said:

    And neither did I, ur point?

    My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall. 

    WSS

  • @clevfan4life said:

    And neither did I, ur point?

    My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall. 

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall. 

    WSS

    I didnt assert otherwise. There was a time in Islam when they were the academic center of our universe. Modern kniwledge of human anatomy came from Alexandria and the Brirish doctors wesrern society gives credit for certain disciveries, they studied in egypt.

    But to.their discredit, the fundamentalist muslims destroyed that. They were very likely responsible fir burning down the great library. Fundamentalist "anything" is a ngr that needs avoided at all costs.

  • @westside-steve said:

    My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall. 

    WSS

    I didnt assert otherwise. There was a time in Islam when they were the academic center of our universe. Modern kniwledge of human anatomy came from Alexandria and the Brirish doctors wesrern society gives credit for certain disciveries, they studied in egypt.

    But to.their discredit, the fundamentalist muslims destroyed that. They were very likely responsible fir burning down the great library. Fundamentalist "anything" is a ngr that needs avoided at all costs.

    @clevfan4life said:

    I didnt assert otherwise. There was a time in Islam when they were the academic center of our universe. Modern kniwledge of human anatomy came from Alexandria and the Brirish doctors wesrern society gives credit for certain disciveries, they studied in egypt.

    But to.their discredit, the fundamentalist muslims destroyed that. They were very likely responsible fir burning down the great library. Fundamentalist "anything" is a ngr that needs avoided at all costs.

    I don't agree at all. I think economic situations proximity of War Etc will cause people to get crazy. Oftentimes they take that craziness and projected through the prism of religion and use it as an excuse. Like some of the people who use Christianity to Badger people who don't want  the borders overrun by  immigrants from third world shitholes . But just being Fundamentalist it's no big deal. Not my cup of tea but for the most part fundamentalists I know are fine people. Most rank-and-file Church doors are not Fundamentalist. And I don't personally know anybody who actively follows the Old Testament with violence towards non-believers. Amish Seventh Day Adventist Foursquare gospel even Jehovah Witnesses seem like decent folks as far as I can tell.

    WSS

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    Make America Great Again! ??

     
     
     
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  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

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    U should prob be made aware that Grant and the dude on the right may very well have more in common than u think....

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2016/08/08/inside-cary-grants-secret-life-with-men/amp/

    I hope u can get some sleep tonight despite this seusmic revelation about ur dapper, well dressed hero u seem to idolize. 

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    The defense rests its case ur honour.....

    ????

  • I should have figured you would have personal knowledge.

  • I should have figured you would have personal knowledge.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I should have figured you would have personal knowledge.

    Dude died before i was born, ive read about this for years tho. Not surprised u had affinity for a sekret pecker puller tho......?

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

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    Make America Great Again! ??

     
     
     
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    @texasag1969 said:

    Make America Great Again! ??

     
     
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    The "Rock" LOL.  In 1975 I had just gotten out of Naval training school in San Diego and was reporting to my ship stationed in Long Beach Ca which was in dry dock. I thought something was odd when the bus pulled into the Long Beach Naval Station and the sign said San Francisco Naval Station.. When I got off the bus I went to report in and I saw this Admiral coming at me all decked out in gold so I gave him my best salute and he just scowled back at me. When I went around the corner I saw all the cameras and they were filming an episode of McMillan and Wife and the admiral I saluted was Rock Hudson. This was back when nobody had heard of AIDS or that Hudson was gay.

  • So Trump is making him leave January 1 instead, really stupid.

    Fox News
     
    3 mins · 

    Breaking News: Defense Secretary James Mattis will be leaving his post on January 1, weeks ahead of his initially announced exit of February. President Donald J. Trump announced in a tweet Sunday morning that "Deputy Secretary of Defense, Patrick Shanahan, will assume the title of Acting Secretary of Defense starting January 1, 2019."

  • So Trump is making him leave January 1 instead, really stupid.

    Fox News
     
    3 mins · 

    Breaking News: Defense Secretary James Mattis will be leaving his post on January 1, weeks ahead of his initially announced exit of February. President Donald J. Trump announced in a tweet Sunday morning that "Deputy Secretary of Defense, Patrick Shanahan, will assume the title of Acting Secretary of Defense starting January 1, 2019."

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    So Trump is making him leave January 1 instead, really stupid.

    Fox News
     
    3 mins · 

    Breaking News: Defense Secretary James Mattis will be leaving his post on January 1, weeks ahead of his initially announced exit of February. President Donald J. Trump announced in a tweet Sunday morning that "Deputy Secretary of Defense, Patrick Shanahan, will assume the title of Acting Secretary of Defense starting January 1, 2019."

    What a baby....

    Patrick Shanahan ->

    No military experience

    No government experience

    Former Boeing executive

    Limited foreign policy experience

    Non Cheetos Jesus Christ.

  • And the hits keep comin

  • I will vote for anyone over Trump in 2020.  The orange buffoon is a nutbag.  MAGA.

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  • Ya'll might want to tap the Brakes on this one a bit   .   .   .  

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    https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/23/patrick-m-shanahan-new-sec-defense/

    Two advanced Degrees from MIT - guy's no slouch.

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    http://articles.latimes.com/2008/feb/24/business/fi-sunprofile24

    Also keep in mind, Boeing does some pretty hush hush (Boeing Phantom Works) type of work for the DoD.

    As for Mattis leaving early, that is interesting   .   .   .   General Kelly is also supposed to be out by year end.

    Accelerated timeline ?

    Keep in mind, these are not going to be long term positions if you haven't figured that out yet.

    Is the amount of turnover in this Administration like any other you've seen ?

    Good or bad, these folks are here to do a job then they're out and someone else is in to do a different job.

    New game.

  • So now advanced degrees are in eh? And not a lick of military exp on that resume or am i not seeing it? A boeing enginerr for sec of defense? I mean, is this for real? Did we critisize the tillerson pick for this very reason and, well, we know what happened there......

    I mean trump is lost, utterly.

    DH, all bullshit aside....are u ok with a def sec that never even went through boot camp?

  • Oh dear god he's a supply chain kunt ontop of everything else. Dear god even hillary would beat this clown show in 2020......